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question
by Manolis 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

A question has occurred to em the last few months that I am still trying to answer by simple logic or logisitcs. Maybe someone out there has a bright inspiration. We know that in Europe CDs are expensive. Especially the US imports. Tzadiks for example are priced above 18 euros, often reaching 22 or 23 euros in shops here. The last time that the dollar had gone up (whenever that was), the increase was immediately mirrored in the CD prices. As we all know the dollar has been cheap for many months now, yet, the prices are still high with no indication of adjustement. For example, I just got 5 CDs from the US for ~63 euros (incl post). Why do these morons over here still ask more than 100 euros for the same CDs? i had to ask someone. manolis NP: B. Markovic orkestar: ederlezi (buzzing in my ears since last night)

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RE: Re[2]: Soundtracks
by Stefania Errore 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

What about Charles Mingus' soundtrack for the movie Todo Modo by Elio Petri? Mingus composed the soundtrack but at the end ... they decided it was not the right sound for the movie (sigh!!!!!!) I have Cumbia & Jazz Fusion that seems to includes the soundtrack but I was wondering whether it is the complete work or a different version exists. Thank yoiu Ciao Stefania >From: Jim Flannery <newgrange(a)newgrangemedia.com> >Reply-To: Jim Flannery <newgrange(a)newgrangemedia.com> >To: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re[2]: Soundtracks >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:50:29 -0800 > >Monday, February 2, 2004, 12:47:20 AM, one spoke: > >flpc> 2. Piero Piccioni "La decima vittima" aka "The Tenth Victim". >flpc> You should definitely see the movie as well, an absolute must >flpc> for lovers of 60s cinema and pop-art culture. > >The book it's based on isn't too shabby either (by Robert Scheckley, >one of the great lost masters of 60s SF) ... according to ISFDB, there >were two sequels in the 80s, _Victim Prime_ and _Hunter/Victim_ but >I've never even seen either of them. > >-- >Jim Flannery >newgrange(a)newgrangemedia.com >http://www.newgrangemedia.com/pii > >np: >nr: Frank Stanford, _The Battlefield Where the Moon Says I Love You_ > > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: Soundtracks
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

> Recently picked up Ennio Morricone's "Gli Occhi Freddi Della Paura" ("Cold > Eyes Of Fear"), and needless to say, I absolutely love this soundtrack. In > this man's opinion, this album really seems to be very influential to Zorn > and his Naked City Works. Like I said, that's just my opinion, but I'm > curious to see if any other Zorn Listers feel the same way, or at least, > somewhat agree with that take on this particular Morricone Soundtrack. At > any rate, it's a bad-ass album, and should be considered for your catalog. "Gli occhi..." is great, but it is the tip of the iceberg of Morricone's work in this area. The mode Morricone used for many of these Italian thrillers and giallos is always the same: a couple of great tunes (usually one strong theme per movie), mixed with avant-garde/modern composition stuff that gives listeners the creeps. It usually works very well, though. It is often better to see the movies and hear the music in the context. Again, "Gli occhi..." is a strong case, it is a very good Italian thriller that you should try to see. Another great example is "Chi l'ha vista morire", or "Who Saw Her Die?" - once you've heard the children's song used in this movie, it will haunt you forever. There are dozens of Morricone soundtracks that are recommendable if you like this particular facet of his work. > As far as Krzysztof Komeda, I don't have any of his soundtracks. I do have > a copy of Tomasz Stanko's "Litania: Music of Krzysztof Komeda", which I also > enjoy. Tomasz's tone on this album is really dry and rough, and a lot > different than what I would expect from Manfred's ECM label. The lineup is > stellar, and I'm sure, Tomasz greatly enjoyed putting together this album, > considering how close he and Krzystof were. Komeda is one of the greats, but his stuff is relatively hard to get. There is a 20-something CD series released in Poland that is pretty comprehensive - it contains both his work for movies and his "regular" jazz works. I have the volume that has the "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Fearless Vampire Killers" soundtracks. Especially "Vampire Killers" is a masterpiece, in my opinion, and when I first heard it I thought it was the closest thing I'd ever heard to Mr.Bungle's "Disco Volante". And in response to Efren's recommendations: > And one of my most-listened-to soundtracks last year > was the reissue of Bernard Hermann's "The Day the > Earth Stood Still", in the event you're into > sci-fi/theremin stuff. I second that. When Mr.Bungle opened their Nijmegen show back in 1996 with the "Radar" track off this soundtrack I knew I had to hunt it down. The whole piece is absolutely stunning. In general, Bernard Herrmann is really dependable. I count the "Vertigo" soundtrack among my favorites. If you want to move past the legion of honored soundtrack composers onto some more out-there stuff, my recommendations would be: 1. Piero Umiliani "Cinque bambole per la luna d'agosto" Umiliani's stuff can be pretty much hit-or-miss, but this one is absolute killer. Some of the most crazy organ stuff ever recorded. It sure helps that "Cinque bambole..." ("Five Dolls for an August Moon") by Mario Bava is one of my all-time favorite movies (but it is an acquired taste, so you may not want to try it, certainly not before you've seen most of Bava's more well-known titles). 2. Piero Piccioni "La decima vittima" aka "The Tenth Victim". The most insane organ rock music. The original vinyl edition is one of the holy grails for soundtrack collectors (I paid $90 on eBay to get mine). There's a re-issue that you could get, but amazingly this is not as good because it contains *too much* of this music - hearing the same tune repeated over and over can get a bit too much. Also, they replaced the original artwork which is a big no no. The original is absolutely essential. You should definitely see the movie as well, an absolute must for lovers of 60s cinema and pop-art culture. 3. Gene Moore "Carnival of Souls" More organ-drenched madness. This has been released on Birdman in the US. Get it while it's available, and revel in its dark and haunting atmosphere. Even the dialogue snippets make sense for a change, and contribute to the overall atmosphere of eerieness. 4. Bruno Nicolai "Eugenie...The Story of Her Journey into Perversion" aka "Philosophy in the Boudoir" This may be my all-time favorite soundtrack, but is sadly unavailable apart from the original, very expensive vinyl, and a bootleg CD re-issue where it was coupled to the "Decima vittima" OST (the ultimate double-bill). This music accompanies one of Jess Franco's most interesting works (available on a stunning DVD from Blue Underground), and goes from samba to eerie mood music. Bruno Nicolai usually operates in the shadow of Morricone, but here he manages to equal the master. 5. Peter Thomas "Raumpatrouille" The soundtrack to Germany's answer to Star Trek, this is another nutcase mixture of accessible song-driven material and avant-garde sounds. This has become all the hype ever since it was picked up by the lounge/retro crowd a few years ago, and has been the subject of endless inferior remixes and extended editions. Just get the regular CD (I found the original 1966 album in a stack of German schlager records a few years ago...) and revel in its greatness. 6. Les Baxter "The Dunwich Horror" INSANE mixture of song-driven material and electronica. Again, the original album is quite expensive, and I don't know if it has yet been re-issued on CD, but this is so much worth hunting down. It was made in 1969/70, so it already incorporates some real rock elements, giving it a punch that most of the Italian material does not have. Other indispensible stuff is the great "Vampyros Lesbos" soundtrack, and the "Beat at Cinecitta" compilations (containing some excellent work by Umiliana and Piccioni, as well as many others). And don't get me started on all the truly excellent and completely crazy stuff that was done for Bollywood movies ("Caravan", "Shalimar", and "Prem Granth" are my picks in that category). Frankco

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Fwd: Malachi Favors RIP
by Perfect Sound Forever 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

>We learned over the past weekend of the passing of Malachi Favors. As most >of you know, Malachi was the bassist for seminal band The Art Ensemble of >Chicago, for which he anchored the rhythm section for over 35 years. A >profoundly modest man, Malachi rarely drew attention to himself. Despite >this, he was nontheless among the most influential bassists in helping to >establish that instrument's role in "avant-garde" jazz. > >We have had the pleasure of working with Malachi over the past few years, >first with Wadada Leo Smith's Golden Quartet on "The Year of the Elephant," >and more recently, with The Art Ensemble of Chicago on "The Meeting" and >their upcoming release "Sirius Calling." Sirius Calling was named by >Malachi, who apparently knew that he was dying for some time - and Sirius >(the brightest star in the heavens) was calling to him from >beyond. We at Pi are honored to have worked with Malachi. His legacy and >influence will continue to resonate on. > >Seth Rosner and Yulun Wang >Pi Recordings Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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RE: Geoff Tate??
by Matthew Garrington 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I don't know what it sounds like .. . But Evan Schiller is on a lot of great albums. Could be promising . . -----Original Message----- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:59:29 +1100 From: "Julian" <germtheory(a)optusnet.com.au> Subject: Geoff Tate?? To: <zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c3ebf0$465a3060$0fbb1ed3(a)nsw.optushome.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was puzzled to just find a Geoff Tate (ie the lead singer of Queensryche) album on Eyvind Kang's discography: http://www.geocities.com/kanggallery/discography/geofftate.html Anyone know it? Is it 'experimental' as we would expect from Kang or is he in more of a 'session' role, just playing parts and so forth...? Julian. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list End of zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 39 ****************************************

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Duke reading inquiry
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Seeking a good autobio of Duke that scrutinizes the evolution of his band. More accurately, I'd like a musical biography of him and his band. Also, I'm wondering if there's a narrative sessionography for Ellington like Jack Chambers' "Milestones" (for Miles). Listening to lots of early Ellington now and came across a statement of how Bubber Miley changed the direction of the band (from pretty music to jungle music) and how Bubber and Tricky Sam Nanton were constantly feeding off each other in coming up with new ideas and sounds.... Whetted my appetite for more.... Martin

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Soundtracks: Komeda
by emil schlaggendorf 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

>> I think it's going to be easier to get my hands on the >> cds than renting the movie here. In fact, I already >> found an internet retailer that stocks some promising >> recordings, "Rosemary's Baby/The Vampire Killers" >> among them. > >What's the URL? I am still looking for a CD with Komeda's >"Knife in the Water" soundtrack. here, have some linkage: http://www.trytel.com/~skok/komeda.html To an extent, the series is a discographical disaster: over 20 volumes, and the music to "Knife on the Water" is on at least 4 of them. Similarly, 6 or 7 contain the tune "Astigmatic" and it's hard to tell where there's duplication. I highly recommend vol.7 because it has not only the "Knife" soundtrack, but well over a dozen cuts that are just as good. Dark Mingus-ish combos, Ã¼bercool interludes and lots of stuff with major film-noir feel.. Among the non-soundtrack stuff, Live in Copenhagen and Live at the Jazz Jamboree are really good -- pure catnip for fans of Tomasz Stanko, and you have to wonder why Michal Urbaniak switched from saxophone to violin. all in all, superlative stuff. enjoy, em.s.

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Geoff Tate??
by Julian 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I was puzzled to just find a Geoff Tate (ie the lead singer of Queensryche) album on Eyvind Kang's discography: http://www.geocities.com/kanggallery/discography/geofftate.html Anyone know it? Is it 'experimental' as we would expect from Kang or is he in more of a 'session' role, just playing parts and so forth...? Julian.

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Laswell CDs on eBay
by Rick Lopez 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

LOT 2 (+1) Laswell CDs Painkiller + Material http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2591593685 PAINKILLER: Execution Ground 2CD Set Material: Seven Souls In case anyone is interested, RL ----- http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k = Music research, etc... CRISPELL; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SPEARMAN; D.S. WARE; Courvoisier; Eneidi; Ibarra; Maneri; Morris; Shipp Samuel Beckett Eulogy; Baseball & the 10,000 Things; LUCILLE-- a Reverential Journal of the Care of the Beloved Hag Time Stops; LOVETORN; HARD BOIL; ... ETC. founding member, CECIL TAYLOR RESEARCH GROUP: CT Sessionography: http://www.webmutations.com/ceciltaylor/

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Fwd: 'Rock in Op' mini-festival in Denver
by Perfect Sound Forever 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

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