December 2002 - zorn-list - mailman.xmission.com

RE: thirsty ear recommendations
by josephneff 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hello, ....can't comment on the series as a whole, because I only have "Pastoral Composure" by the Shipp Quartet, but I can recommend that one wholeheartedly. Roy Campbell's playing on trumpets regular and pocket, and flugel horn, is spectacular, particularly on the opening cut, "Gesture". "Visions" gives off a vibe that reminds me of some of the '60's Blue Note stuff, and William Parker on bass and Gerald Cleaver on drums have fine short back-to-back solos on this track. On "Prelude to a Kiss" Shipp goes it alone, and his playing is very good, passionate yet controlled. The way Campbell's horn and Cleaver's cymbal washes combine on the short title cut is excellent. "Progression is back to Blue Note territory, and Shipp's solo stands out. "Frere Jacques" was, initially, the most striking thing on the disc. It's not particularly "outside" since they don't deconstruct the tune; rather, they abstract it and build upon it while maintaining it's recognizable qualities. Very Good. "Merge" is some of Shipp's best moments on the disc. He really explores the keyboard and propels the music, and all the while Parker and Cleaver are moving around him, fluttering and clacking, and the result sounds massive. I often replay this one two or three times while listening to this disc. "Inner Order" is abstract and meditative. I'm always reminded of Mingus and Don Cherry when this plays. "XTU" ends the record with Shipp solo again, for me the better of the two solo pieces. Shipp's playing here is angular, yet still flowing, and it ends the CD perfectly. All in all, a pretty grand disc. I remain.... Joseph NP: Frank Pahl- "The Romantic Side of Schizophrenia" CD NR: Dave Eggers- "You Shall Know Our Velocity"

2 2

RE: Really Eerie Music (R.E.M.)
by A 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

My picks: Any Abruptum Ulver - Perdition City Samhain - November-Coming-Fire _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

1 0

Re: But is it stealing?
by Nvinokur＠aol.com 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/6/02 6:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, billashline(a)netscape.net writes: << To state that the copyright for the > music on a CD you buy remains mine >> However, if one purchased an LP, thereby paying the mechanical rights, shouldn't the record co. replace that LP for free with a CD, since the record co. changed the listening format. Now if you want to replace the format, the mechanical rights are paid twice for the same music.

1 0

Ear-y Muzix
by DAN KUEHN 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Someone mentioned Howard Shore - how about the Naked Lunch soundtrack with Ornette Coleman? brr!

1 0

Re: Fwd: Really Eerie Music (R.E.M.)
by carlos torres 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Has anyone mentioned the Conet Project yet? Some of the eeriest stuff ive heard... _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

2 1

When Rolling Stone turned bad
by Tosh 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

That's a good question: When did Rolling Stone turned bad. As a teenager and a young (to old) little tot I was raised with that magazine. I think sometime during the late 70's it turned into a mouthpiece for the mainstream. They did have Tom Wolfe, Hunter S. Thompson - but when Jann Werner (is that is name?) moved to NYC and sort of got into the 'society' thing - his magazine changed. Also I think Rolling Stone was sort of 'cool' towards the coming Punk scene in NYC and London. I don't think Jann got into that scene whatsoever. Also it is amusing that Jann (who rarely writes reviews or anything for that matter) wrote this rave review (five stars) for Mick Jagger's last solo album in his magazine . So personally I think he's stuck in another era - an era that is not that interesting. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

2 1

Re: Really Eerie Music (R.E.M.)
by Nvinokur＠aol.com 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

I find that Jon Hassell and Eno, possible fourth world music is quite eerie, and lets not forget the Residents music (Eskimo might fit the bill)

1 0

Re: Really Eerie Music (R.E.M.)
by Crowmeat Bob 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

I'll third the Penderecki Threnody. But speakin of Kubrick, what about Bartok's 'Music for Percussion, Strings and Celeste'? Also in the Shining, Ligeti's 2nd String Quartet and more Penderecki. and I was gonna say Messiaen's 'Quatuor pour la Fin du Temps' too. somebody beat me to it. You also might want to seriously consider some Giacinto Scelsi. The string quartets are pretty creepy. Stockhausen's 'Gesange der Junglinge' can send tiny birds of prey skittering through your nerves. Kaija Saariaho's got a nice slow, cold-ass creep going on, too. There's a record that's got Cutler, Hodgkinson and Dumitrescu performing their compositions with various ensembles. It can be eerie. the John Butcher and Phil Durrant duos have an under-the-skin intensity. --bob np: Topbill - Topbillion dollar breaks _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

1 0

RE: Really Eerie Music (R.E.M.)
by Andy Marks 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

I 'm suprised no one has mentioned Zorn's Elegy. Maybe it's too obvious. Death Cube K - Disembodied That Mike Patton track from "The Gift" Keiji Haino - Tenshi No Gijinka Dang, stumped me. I know there's more, but I'm at work so I can't peruse my collection.

4 4

RE: beck's ch-ch-ch-changes
by Kasra George Ahmadi 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

The new beck album is awesome, but you're right, i definitely couldn't get some similarities out of my head. Track 7 or 8 sounds very close of River Man by Nick Drake. -----Original Message----- From: aaron chua [mailto:aaronchua22@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:03 PM To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: beck's ch-ch-ch-changes has anyone else noticed similarities between track 2(?) "paper tiger" frm beck's new album and gainsbourg's "melody de nelson" or is it just me?? great track all the same but so's "melody... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

1 0