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Re: rawk
by zsteiner＠butler.edu 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

Have you heard Creed? What about Pearl Jam? Where as Radiohead is not truly experimental, they are doing things in rock that few other nascent bands will. I don't find their lack of true experimentation to be a deterrent to my enjoyment of their music. There are plenty of bands that explore previously mapped out territory to great effect. If any one can be accused of being too self-conciously, intentionally post-modern, it is Mr. Zorn. This is not inherently a bad thing, IMHO. Zach ----- Original Message ----- From: ahorton <ahorton(a)vt.edu> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:02 pm Subject: rawk > I came to Zorn's music from indie rock, so I have to drop some > comments. > I think Radiohead are one of the least interesting bands currently > recording > and making music; their songs are too intentionally > "postmodern"/"faux-avant > garde" to touch me, or anyone, personally and emotionally, and the > music is > wholly uninteresting as well. I'm tiring of so many people calling > the band > "experimental", when they're simply doing things that other > artists made safe > years ago.

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Re: Worlds Fastest Drummer
by RainDog138＠aol.com 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

zach from hella wins hands down. second place is nick miller from sic/kataklysm/anal blast -mike thompson

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RE: Worlds Fastest Drummer
by Phil Plencner 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

>What about fastest drummer in terms of packing most information per minute >and not just most beats? >Many metal drummers play fast as hell, but it's often qutie simple and even >more often terribly boring. >Perhaps someone like Yoshida from Ruins. Very, very fast and incredibly >complicated. Also Dave Witte can play very fast and complicated and often >have cool beats, more in the traditional metal vain than Yoshida. I have to agree wholeheatedly with these two picks. If you want to hear some really tripped out stuff, get the new Phantomsmasher CD (on Ipecac). It's Dave Witte playing, but it's all chopped up and deconstructed into something rather interesting. I'd also add Zach Hill from Hella to this list of fast yet complicated drummers. Yoshida also has some other projects that are more in a Zeuhl/Fusion vain. Anyone heard these and have recommendations? ***************************************************************** Phil Plencner - drummerphil(a)sbcglobal.net Drummer, Percussionist, and All Around Great Guy ***************************************************************** http://www.mp3.com/Phil_Plencner/ http://www.mp3.com/stations/PhilsPicks/ http://www.phils-picks.com/ "I'll bump into people who say 'Aw, I used to play the drums, but I sold my set.' And I think, 'How can you do that? Are you insane?'" - Dave Grohl *****************************************************************

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RE: Rock /metal
by kevin.by 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

>===== Original Message From "Matt Laferty" <mlaferty(a)stny.rr.com> ===== >I don't know how many folks'll agree, but I find a lot of monster redemption >of rokk in two "Doom Metal" bands...Electric Wizard and Sleep. >My pal Ben bought Electric Wizard's "Dopethrone" simply because the cover >has Satan smoking a bong. > >The record is all detuned sub-Sabbath riffs that are Slow. Not quite Earth >2 Slow, but Slow. > >Head nodding ensues. Electric Wizard's "Dopethrone" is on my top 10 list of all time favorite records. i really love it. some of the best metal out there. when it comes to metal-bands, i like to point out the Melvins, Boris, Electric Wizard, Kyuss, Melt-Banana & Brutal Truth as unbeatable metal acts! some of them still manage to contribute new impulses into the tired, worn-out "metal" label. take care, kevin. NP! Ween - "Flutes of Chi"

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Re: World's fastest drummer
by Arthur Gadney 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

>Does/did Baron use double kick (pedal) in NC? Nope. He just used a small jazz setup. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Finally we know: World's fastest drummer
by Gullasch Baronen 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

I just heard today that recently there was some kind of world championship in heavy metal drumming. Apparantly the winner hit somewhere around 800 bassdrum beats per minute. Anybody have more info about it? _________________________________________________________________ Send søde postkort til søde mennesker http://www.msn.dk/postkort

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Essential Logic (was Re: rock)
by Perfect Sound Forever 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:16:57 -0700 > From: skip Heller <velaires(a)earthlink.net> > on 6/25/03 9:08 AM, ericksna(a)umich.edu at ericksna(a)umich.edu wrote: > > >> n.p. Essential Logic (Kill Rock Stars re-issue) > > > DETAILS! DETAILS!! I guess I should have thought to annouce something here about it. This is a recently recently compilation of material from post-punk legend Lora Logic (Essential Logic) that I worked with Kill Rock Stars to put out. Most of the Rough Trade albums and singles (long out-of-print) are included there along with some more recent material (that's pretty trip-hop believe it or not). Lora actually found the tapes for the earlier material lying around in her mum's attic. Greil Marcus did the liner notes and Kim Gordon (of Sonic Youth) put together the artwork. See <http://www.buyolympia.com/killrockstars/sid=010264892/Item=KRS399> There's a couple of MP3 sample files there. A 2-CD CD set for $13. Best, Jason -- Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine with warped perspectives http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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Re: morbid angel's drumming and drumming competition
by Phil Plencner 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

"Faster" doesn't always mean "better" obviously, but I thought I'd bring up that point. I once saw Krisian play and their drummer was blazing non-stop for 45 minutes at top speed. However after 10-15 minutes, it got old. It was fast, yes, but for the most part very straightahead. I kept thinking "is that all you can do?" Drummers that I think are mighty quick, yet do interesting things are out there. My personal favs in this style as of late are the guys from Nile and Cephalic Carnage. Having seen them both live fairly recently, I can attest that they play inhumanly fast for a long time, yet keep their playing diverse and interesting for an entire set. ***************************************************************** Phil Plencner - drummerphil(a)sbcglobal.net Drummer, Percussionist, and All Around Great Guy ***************************************************************** http://www.mp3.com/Phil_Plencner/ http://www.mp3.com/stations/PhilsPicks/ http://www.phils-picks.com/ "I'll bump into people who say 'Aw, I used to play the drums, but I sold my set.' And I think, 'How can you do that? Are you insane?'" - Dave Grohl *****************************************************************

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Re: Finally we know: World's fastest drummer
by Gullasch Baronen 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

>Did the championship offer a special award for bad >taste in drumming? They were all great. Jonas _________________________________________________________________ Hold kontakten med dine venner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk

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Re: morbid angel's drumming and drumming competition
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

I had the same experience watching Anthrax's Charlie Benante back in the mid 80s. His feet never stopped pumping at mach speed for the entire show, and since I was there with my friend (and current OTEP drummer) Mark "Moke" Bistany (who has damn fast feet himself), I spent most of the show sidestage so I could observe Benante's technique. Also, here was an extremely fast drummer from Boston who played for a band called Wargasm. Anyone know who he is/was and if he's still in the game? Tom In a message dated 6/25/03 12:29:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SonataPathetique(a)aol.com writes: > I saw morbid angel live last year and this guy doesn't just play fast for 1 > min. He did it for 45 min straight. Ok this guy did a million beats in a > mintue for a competetion but what good does that do in the real world? I > never saw a one minute concert. Morbid angels drummer played fast as a rocket > for 45 min straight. As a drummer of 18 yrs, i could not do anything but stand > there with my jaw dropped because i can play a lot of the stuff he does but > not for 45 minutes straight. > > Also, i believe manowar made guiness book of records for the fast drums in a > song in 1991. I could be wrong. > > _______________________________________________ >

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