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re: jazz snob eat shit
by Mark Saleski 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

> Proof again that too many people on this list don't enjoy a good rock album. wadayamean? i've got Billy Joel's "Glass Houses" and Meatloaf's "Bat Out Of Hell"... ;-) -- Mark Saleski - marks(a)foliage.com | http://www.foliage.com/~marks "Nothing in the world is more haughty than a man of moderate capacity when once raised to power." - Baron Wessenberg

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Carla Bley albums
by Parry Gettelman 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

Three of my favorites are from the '70s, "Dinner Music," "European Tour" and esp. "Musique Mechanique," which has one of my favorite big-band pieces by anybody, "440." Just sparkling compositions and arrangements, and some of my favorite players. Roswell Rudd and Bob Stewart are on all three, Terry Adams (of NRBQ infamy) and Gary Windo are on "European Tour" and "Musique Mecanique." "European Tour also has Andrew Cyrille, and "Musique Mecanique" has Eugene Chadbourne, Steve Swallow and Charlie Haden. And "Musique Mecanique" features not one but two french horns .(I wonder if Gary Clark and John Clark are brothers from some kind of french horn dynasty? Looking up Gary Clark on allmusic.com, one finds he has also written songs for Natalie Imbruglia and Nick Carter of Backstreet Boys. I love allmusic.com, but it gets pretty funny when two musicians have the same name). I also esp. like "The Very Big Carla Bley Band," from 1991 (here's a great song title -- "Strange Arrangement"), and "Songs with Legs," a 1995 live-in-Europe trio release w/ Steve Swallow and Andy Sheppard, which has an interesting, bluesy version of Monk's "Misterioso." Steer away from "Night Glo," which is way too smooth and background-y. One of those "what were they thinking?" albums.

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The ongoing mit gas controversy
by Craig Lieske 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

Fair enough, I can understand people not liking the Mit Gas CD, but has anybody actually heard the Foo Fighters new CD? I've heard it, I don't like it, and I can't say that it sounds anything like Tomahawk. CL _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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by Gullasch Baronen 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

That should set an end to all those stupid discussions. http://www.extremesportdrumming.com/tour/warp/2002.html Battle of the Hands Hands Winner Michael Ascolese Of La, Ca 1,013 singles in 60 Seconds!!! Battle of the Feet Eric Intihar of Parma, OH 969 Singles in 60 seconds There's even some videos: http://www.drumometer.com/2a/namm.html _________________________________________________________________ Send søde postkort til søde mennesker http://www.msn.dk/postkort

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Re: RE: Mit (fart) Gas
by zsteiner＠butler.edu 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

Well, put. Last year, I tried to rope a friend into going up to Chicago to see Tomahawk. I played a few cuts off of the first album for a friend. All she said was "Zach, that scares me." I was taken aback by that reaction. Sure I would have expected that from Naked City or even Bungle, but Tomahawk! The concert was fun and every one with me was very impressed with Patton. This was everyone's first exposure to Patton. His presence is really awe inspiring and that voice! Zach Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b7.335107aa.2c2a140f_boundary" --part1_b7.335107aa.2c2a140f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wsou in nj has been playing fnm and bungle since the late 80's. They still play both bands on a regular basis. i tried to request Tomahawk but they told me they only play Patton's mainstream stuff. If Tomahawk is a commercial cd, why isnt radio touching it? i still hear Bungle on the radio all the time. Does that mean Bungle is commerical? and I really doubt Tomahawk are "trying" to go pop because as pop as it might seem to the regular patton crowd, to most it is very off the wall. --part1_b7.335107aa.2c2a140f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">wsou in nj has been playing fnm and bungle since the l= ate 80's.  They still play both bands on a regular basis.  i tried= to request Tomahawk but they told me they only play Patton's mainstream stu= ff.  If Tomahawk is a commercial cd, why isnt radio touching it? =20= i still hear Bungle on the radio all the time.  Does that mean Bungle i= s commerical?  and I really doubt Tomahawk are "trying" to go pop becau= se as pop as it might seem to the regular patton crowd, to most it is very o= ff the wall. </FONT></HTML> --part1_b7.335107aa.2c2a140f_boundary-- _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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RE: Mit (fart) Gas
by SonataPathetique＠aol.com 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

wsou in nj has been playing fnm and bungle since the late 80's. They still play both bands on a regular basis. i tried to request Tomahawk but they told me they only play Patton's mainstream stuff. If Tomahawk is a commercial cd, why isnt radio touching it? i still hear Bungle on the radio all the time. Does that mean Bungle is commerical? and I really doubt Tomahawk are "trying" to go pop because as pop as it might seem to the regular patton crowd, to most it is very off the wall.

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Re: jazz snob eat shit
by zsteiner＠butler.edu 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

Heck, it seems like the Beatles were discussed more than Zorn here for awhile last year. ----- Original Message ----- From: Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:43 pm Subject: Re: jazz snob eat shit > I don't know where those conclusions were taken from. > A lot of rock and pop bands and musicians have been > discussed here largerly and repeatedly, anything from > The Beach Boys to Sonic Youth, Elvis Costello, Lou > Reed or Messhuggah, to name only a few, and some of > these examples are clearly radio-friendly at their own > level. > I'm a FNM fan and I've been following Patton's stuff > since the early nineties, but I still think that > Tomahawk is his weakest project to date (although it's > not exactly his brainchild). I didn't have a chance to > listen to "Mit Gas" but it's not like I'm really > looking forward to it either, which doesn't imply any > straight-ahead-rock dismissal at all. > > Best, > > Efrén del Valle > n.p: Esquivel & His Orchestra "Exploring New Sounds in > Sonorama" (RCA)

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Re: jazz snob eat shit
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

In a message dated 6/24/03 2:44:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, river_of_dogs(a)yahoo.com writes: > What are you talking about? I can still enjoy > > 1. King For A Day - FNM > 2. The Wall - Pink Floyd > 3. Tin Machine - Tin Machine > 4. almost anything by Rush > 5. Time's up - Living Colour > > more too, those are just a few. > > > > I can listen to almost anything by Living Colour, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Pre-1984 Rush, Rage Against the Machine, Black Sabbath, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Matthew Sweet, pre-"For Those About To Rock" AC/DC, David Lee Roth-era Van Halen, Rollins Band and pre-1980 Queen without getting sick. I don't know about this "rock" think, but I sure do like rock-n-roll and some radio-friendly metal. Why not? Tom ______________________________________________________ Discs I'm listening to at work: Lounge Lizards -- Queen of All Ears Metallica -- Master of Puppets Gillian Welch -- Revival Bill Monroe & The Bluegrass Boys -- Live at the Opry John Zorn -- The Circle Maker

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Re: Cale covers
by zsteiner＠butler.edu 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

Interesting that you mention his drinking? It sounded as if he was a tad lit at the beginning of "Fragments of a Rainy Season." During the first part of the set, his words sounded very slurred and became much clearer towards the end of the set as he sobered up(?). However, his piano playing didn't seem to be effected: casting doubt on the theory. Has he been known to partake of rock star excesses in substances? I always got the impression that all the craziness seen from him tended to be the acts of a sober man (albeit a slightly crazy one). Am I wrong in this? > (I guess about the > mid-80s, a > few years before I got mired there) had been rather less > auspicious -- he > reportedly got so wasted he fell off his seat while playing, and > insisted on > offering refunds to everyone. Of course, I know many performers > who > wouldn't think that was necessarily the worst way to get through a > gig in > Orlando, where crowds could be pretty clueless.

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jazz snob eat shit
by Theo Klaase 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

> Proof again that too many people on this list don't enjoy a good rock album. What are you talking about? I can still enjoy 1. King For A Day - FNM 2. The Wall - Pink Floyd 3. Tin Machine - Tin Machine 4. almost anything by Rush 5. Time's up - Living Colour more too, those are just a few. ===== -That which is Theo "There is no hill that lasts forever" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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