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Re: Cobra live at Knitting Factory
by Mitch Tyo 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

>just wondering what 'Cobra' Live At The Knitting Factory is like. >It has a huge range of different performers on each track, some I was >surprised to see! I don't really care for it. The production quality is lousy, and since many of the Cobras aren't conducted by Zorn himself, it's a bit bland. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: Kevin Sharp
by Alfonso Vargas Gamio 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Speaking of Sharp, word is that he will do vocals in a grindcore super-project, which will feature Shane Embury on bass, Mick Harris on drums and, possibly, Buzz Osborne on guitar. AVG np: King Crimson - The Power to Believe (speaking of Vincent Gallo, the bowling alley scene is set to KC's "I Talk to the Wind".) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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a few CDs for sale
by William York 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Hey, Pardon the commercial intrusion. I have a few Z-list related CDs that, through know fault of their own, haven't been getting enough airtime around my house ... in other words, I'm selling them, so make me an offer if you are interested. (I live in California if that helps you figure out shipping costs.) John Zorn/Masada- Beit (2) (DIW) Henry Threadgill Sextet - Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket (About TIme) Otomo Yoshihide/Voice Crack - Bits, Bots and Signs (Erstwhile) Sun Ra - Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow (Evidence) Art Ensemble of Chicago - Fanfare for the Warriors (w/ liner notes by a famous Zorn-lister!) (Koch) Uri Caine/Gustav Mahler - Urlicht/Primal Light (Winter and Winter, which means it has some surface marks due to the fancy packaging, but it plays fine) Thanks, WY

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Re: "Written Paintings" -Proposal of collaboration
by adam morosky 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

does zorn read anything on this list? the zorn list isn't john zorn's email address, is it? i would think that zorn is too busy to listen to us bicker about who we think is cool and toss around gossip. thoughts anyone? i've never seen John Zorn interject on any issue brought up. -adam morosky _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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"Written Paintings" -Proposal of collaboration
by martinho 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Mr. John Zorn, First, I would like to declare my contentment for being able to contact you and reveal my admiration for your work. It is the characteristics of your work along with my interest in music in general that lead me to propose a collaboration in my "Written Paintings" project. I suppose that you are very busy, but I think that collaboration I am asking you doesnÂt require too much time. I have graduated in Plastic Arts Â Painting, from the Faculty of Fine Arts of Porto, Portugal. My project "Written Paintings" must establish connections between the plastic language and the musical language, having as an interface the written language. The descriptive text and the interpretation (author / work / interpreter) are fundamental points oh this work Â How to paint a music? How to write a painting? How to paint a text? I would like to realise a series of idealising paintings for different musicians / composers. Each one will be asked to idealise a painting but they have to translate his own idea into words Â the result of that will be a descriptive text. Finally, I will make my interpretation from this "descriptive text" turning it into to a painting idealised by each author. This is a work of communication and interpretation. To collaborate in this project, I selected a group of musicians /composers, who have a work with which I feel great sympathy, as I feel about your work. Already in II a.d. , Philostrato, in one of his "Images", presents paintings of a gallery of Naples. He describes and comments on the paintings, explaining their meaning. It was as if one painted with words, giving the opportunity of knowing the painting through description to those who could not see them. The relationship between different forms of communication can be extended in time if we consider "Improvisation" and "Compositions" of Kandinsky based in music. I also quote "Paintings of One Exhibition" of Mussorgsky, "Monotone Symphony" of Yves Klein , "White Paintings" of Rauschenberg, which would be a pretext for John CageÂs "4Â33ÂÂÂ"Hypothetical Stream", 1996, of William Forsythe from the book "Tiepolo Drawings", etc. Since the 50Âs / 60Âs the relationship between the different artistic forms (already begun with the Dada Movement or with the gothic cathedrals) and the development of new technologies become a constant which yet remains through Multimedia (not exclusively in the area of electronics). I will now try to explain my suggestions for the work Â Written Paintings; As a plastic artist I would like to interpret, make a painting from my interpretation of a descriptive text that represents a painting idealised by you. In other words; What I want exactly from you is: Â Inside your musical universe, you must idealise (mental conception) a pictorial composition and then "translate" that painting into a text - You must describe the image by words. The text (as a "descriptive memory") must content all the "instructions" or "indications" (the conceptual aspects, the forms, the colours, precise elements you would like to see represented in the painting, expressiveness...) that you find to be necessary so that I can interpret it and transform it into a painting. So, I want to realise / to interpret a painting created by you. That's why I entitle my project "Written Paintings". In this case it will be: "Written Painting by John Zorn". I thus arrive to the condition of the interpreter / "maker" of a work I have not created. It is a challenge launched at you but also at me. My proposal is also being with the objective of creating a set of paintings which would be the result of different languages or meta-languages, from interpretations of interpretationsÂ Being able to count on your participation would be a great pleasure. Yours respectfully, Martinho Dias P.S. I believe that, once you participate in my project, you automatically authorise me to include your text ("written painting") and your name in the painting title, with the purpose of public exhibition. -- SAPO ADSL.PT, apanhe jÃ¡ o comboio da Banda Larga. Kit SAPO ADSL.PT - GrÃ¡tis http://adsl.sapo.pt ______________________________________________ _ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-l ist ----- Fim da mensagem reenviada ----- -- SAPO ADSL.PT, apanhe jÃ¡ o comboio da Banda Larga. Kit SAPO ADSL.PT - GrÃ¡tis http://adsl.sapo.pt

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"Written Paintings" -Proposal of collaboration
by martinho 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Mr. John Zorn, First, I would like to declare my contentment for being able to contact you and reveal my admiration for your work. It is the characteristics of your work along with my interest in music in general that lead me to propose a collaboration in my "Written Paintings" project. I suppose that you are very busy, but I think that collaboration I am asking you doesnÂt require too much time. I have graduated in Plastic Arts Â Painting, from the Faculty of Fine Arts of Porto, Portugal. My project "Written Paintings" must establish connections between the plastic language and the musical language, having as an interface the written language. The descriptive text and the interpretation (author / work / interpreter) are fundamental points oh this work Â How to paint a music? How to write a painting? How to paint a text? I would like to realise a series of idealising paintings for different musicians / composers. Each one will be asked to idealise a painting but they have to translate his own idea into words Â the result of that will be a descriptive text. Finally, I will make my interpretation from this "descriptive text" turning it into to a painting idealised by each author. This is a work of communication and interpretation. To collaborate in this project, I selected a group of musicians /composers, who have a work with which I feel great sympathy, as I feel about your work. Already in II a.d. , Philostrato, in one of his "Images", presents paintings of a gallery of Naples. He describes and comments on the paintings, explaining their meaning. It was as if one painted with words, giving the opportunity of knowing the painting through description to those who could not see them. The relationship between different forms of communication can be extended in time if we consider "Improvisation" and "Compositions" of Kandinsky based in music. I also quote "Paintings of One Exhibition" of Mussorgsky, "Monotone Symphony" of Yves Klein , "White Paintings" of Rauschenberg, which would be a pretext for John CageÂs "4Â33ÂÂÂ"Hypothetical Stream", 1996, of William Forsythe from the book "Tiepolo Drawings", etc. Since the 50Âs / 60Âs the relationship between the different artistic forms (already begun with the Dada Movement or with the gothic cathedrals) and the development of new technologies become a constant which yet remains through Multimedia (not exclusively in the area of electronics). I will now try to explain my suggestions for the work Â Written Paintings; As a plastic artist I would like to interpret, make a painting from my interpretation of a descriptive text that represents a painting idealised by you. In other words; What I want exactly from you is: Â Inside your musical universe, you must idealise (mental conception) a pictorial composition and then "translate" that painting into a text - You must describe the image by words. The text (as a "descriptive memory") must content all the "instructions" or "indications" (the conceptual aspects, the forms, the colours, precise elements you would like to see represented in the painting, expressiveness...) that you find to be necessary so that I can interpret it and transform it into a painting. So, I want to realise / to interpret a painting created by you. That's why I entitle my project "Written Paintings". In this case it will be: "Written Painting by John Zorn". I thus arrive to the condition of the interpreter / "maker" of a work I have not created. It is a challenge launched at you but also at me. My proposal is also being with the objective of creating a set of paintings which would be the result of different languages or meta-languages, from interpretations of interpretationsÂ Being able to count on your participation would be a great pleasure. Yours respectfully, Martinho Dias P.S. I believe that, once you participate in my project, you automatically authorise me to include your text ("written painting") and your name in the painting title, with the purpose of public exhibition. -- SAPO ADSL.PT, apanhe jÃ¡ o comboio da Banda Larga. Kit SAPO ADSL.PT - GrÃ¡tis http://adsl.sapo.pt

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wanted: CO musicians for John Zorn's cobra
by Matthew Garrington 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Hello all, It looks as if the music nonprofit I work with, Creative Music Works, may be putting on a production of John Zorn's Cobra in Denver, Colorado. If there are any Colorado musicians interested on this list (or you can recommend anyone), email me off-list. Cheers, Matt Garrington --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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bar bands lyrics
by Thorsten Krämer 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

hi there, i'm thinking of buying the "new traditions in south eastern bar bands" cd but would like to know beforehand if the lyrics to these three pieces are included in the booklet (their translations, that is) - or may be available elsewhere. so far i've only come across sealed copies, so i'd appreciate any information on this. thanks, thorsten

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metallica/rock/bungle . . .
by Matthew Garrington 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

Well, I must admit, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with the (jazz snob eat shit) rock comment. (hope the response isn't too late) I actually really enjoy the new Metallica single. It harkens back to the days of "ride the lightening" or "kill 'em all." I'd be scarred to listen to the rest of the album though. It seems a vist to San Quentin (sic) & an in-studio therapist helped them find there inner-angst-ridden-early-twentysomethings. Lars seems to be rockin' out again & Rob Truijio (sic) alwasy kicks ass. (Where is Mike Muir?) I think the Melvins are by far the best thing happening in rock. I know they're a dinosaur of the 80's & 90s, but those guys are making the best fuckin' music of their career. I saw them recently at the Fox in Boulder, Colorado and it had to be the best performance I've ever seen 'em do. Mark D was probably a better bass player, but Kevin Rutmanis has an incredible stage presence and really seems to drive all the bands he plays in. And Dave Lombardo is OUT-OF-THIS-WORLD on the Cremaster 2 (it's 2, right?) soundtrack! my 2 cents Matt Garrington PS Word on the street is that Heifetz & Bear said that Mr. Bungle will "almost" definitley do another studio album, but a tour would be very, very doubtful. Best news I've heard in a long while. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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(NZC?) buenos aires, recomendations on sites and culture in ...
by Thomas Choate 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

hey listers, im an austin texaner-- prepping to hit argentina for a semester. (til december) if anyone could prop up some of the (normally fleeting, no?) alternative noisy, atonal or creative music/culture in buenos aires or around, please do. cheers, amor fati, thms --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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