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Re: Merzbow recommendations?
by AJDinz1＠aol.com 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Hi in new here and was going to lurk for a while but i could'nt putting in my two cents as nobody so far has mentioned the merzbox sampler! Although it's pre laptop stuff its a really good overview to get you heading in the merzbow direction of your choice. My personal favourite merz cd is the one he welded into the cd player of a merc. AJ

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Re: Ruins
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

All, Thanks so much for all the Ruins recommendations, both on-list and off-. There isn't any real consensus: everyone seems to have his own favorite album. I think I'm going to go with Mandala 2000 and Burning Stone as a start and go from there. Thanks again, Tom

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Re: Ruins
by Crowmeat Bob 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

the ruins improv collaborations are some of my favorite listening material of the last year. I like their stuff with Bailey and Haino better than their own tightly composed stuff. Not that it's bad or anything, but the improv shit is totally insane. Especially 'Tohjinbo' w/Bailey and 'Knead' w/Haino. some of the best disjointed thrash-improv I've heard. --wrotemaw >From: Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> >To: Samerivertwice(a)aol.com >CC: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: Ruins >Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:55:22 +0100 (CET) > >Hi, > > >Where should I start with the Ruins? I know nothing > >of their oeuvre other than the one Dave Brubeck cover > >on "In His Own Sweet Way." I like it okay but it > >didn't compel me to go out and buy every one of their > >albums (as I'm wont to do when seized by a musician > >or group). > > >Tom > >We'll be exchanging recs I think. First of all, I've >been wanting to order that Brubeck tribute for a long >time. Is it as good as it promises to be? > >My Ruins fave is their "Live at Mandala" album on >Tzadik. It's really impressive. I admit I have never >listened to it in one sitting, because their sound can >be really appaling, but they're real virtuosos in >their style. They don't really sound like a duo and, >even knowing that they are, I can't figure out how >they're capable of such a mass of sound with just a >bass and drums. >If you want to listen to something different than >their usual stuff, their album with Derek Bailey, >"Saisoro" is also very good. It's a bunch of studio >improvisations but this time everyone seems to go his >own way (nothing strange for Bailey though). > >I'm really looking forward to this new album on >Ipecac. > >Best, > >Efrén del Valle > >___________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Sorteos >Consulta si tu número ha sido premiado en >Yahoo! Sorteos http://loteria.yahoo.es > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Ruins/Merzbow
by David Evans 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Hi, Although they've stuck to the same formula and haven't changed much, I'd say that Ruins have got better over the years, and with (relatively new) bass player Sasaki Hisashi now fully up to speed, they're at the top of their game. The best way to experience them is live, but failing that I'd recommend Mandala 2000 - Live in Kichijoji (Tzadik). Shameless personal plug - check out the review on amazon.co.uk. Another reason to avoid early releases when you're starting out is the appalling sound quality. If you're into Improv either of their albums with Derek Bailey (Saisoro on Tzadik and Tohjinbo on Paratactile?) are worth a listen. On the Merzbow front, a couple of people have mentioned Aqua Necromancer as his tribute to Prog. I seem to remember reading that 'Door Open at 8' was his tribute to Jazz. Enlightenment please? Dave "Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work." Thomas Edison. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: Ruins
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Here's what's going to appear to be a REALLY stupid question, especially for someone who's been into Zorn as long as I have. Where should I start with the Ruins? I know nothing of their oeuvre other than the one Dave Brubeck cover on "In His Own Sweet Way." I like it okay but it didn't compel me to go out and buy every one of their albums (as I'm wont to do when seized by a musician or group). You guys all froth over the Ruins so much, though, that I feel like I'm missing out on something special. So please, if it's not too much trouble, recommend away. Thanks, Tom

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Relaxing music
by Matthew Garrington 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Edith Piaf. Her voice is absolutely soothing. Zachary Steiner wrote: > Any good, interesting recommendations for music to listen to when you > are under stress? Thanks. > > > > Zach --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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Re: Ruins
by Arthur Gadney 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Hi, >Has anyone bought the latest Ruins album on Ipecac: Tzomborgha? Any >thoughts on this? Yes, it's amazing. Slightly less rock orientated compared to ealier albums (especially "Burning Stone") but more complex. The playing is phenomonal! Yoshida is in top form as usual, and Sasaki is better than ever. The Mahavisnhu and Black Sabbath covers are okay, but not nearly as good as the previous hard rock, classical and progressive rock medleys. And the last song before the covers, is also much much better live than on CD. Bye, _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: Relaxing Music
by Mark Saleski 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Eno - Music For Airports (dang! everyone seems to like this one) Micky Hart - Music To Be Born By Gavin Bryars - The Sinking Of The Titanic Gorecki - Symphony No. 3 American Beauty Score -- Mark Saleski - marks(a)foliage.com | http://www.foliage.com/~marks "Music is a beautiful opiate, if you don't take it too seriously." - Henry Miller

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RE: relaxing music
by josephneff 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Hello, ...here's some that work for me.... Fripp/Eno- "Evening Star" CD any Mississippi John Hurt Chet Baker- "Sings. It Could Happen To You" CD Madeleine Peyroux- "Dreamland" CD Stan Getz w/ Joao and Astrud Gilberto (or the album w/ Laurindo Almeida, for that matter) McGarrigle Sisters- any I've heard, particularly "French Record" CD Harold Budd, Simon Raymonde, Robin Guthrie, Elizabeth Fraser- "The Moon and the Melodies" CD Lambchop's later stuff, plus the record they did backing Vic Chestnutt I remain.... Joseph NP: Bartok- "Cantata Profana Music For Strings Percussion and Celesta" Vox Turnabout LP (great) NR: Dave Eggers- "You Shall Know Our Velocity"

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RE: EISLERMATERIAL: Heiner Goebbels (2002 - ECM)
by Steve Smith 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:29:10 -0600 Ben Axelrad <soulfrieda(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > The ECM website > mentions that this was > written in response to the murder of a > Palestianian father & son in Gaza. > Was this evident from either the music (I'm > assuming not, since the vocals > are wordless?) or performance? The specific event that inspired the piece was not in evidence, but there were definitely images that reinforced the idea that 'Mercy' is a meditation on compassion: Meredith as elderly patient singing plaintively to Theo Bleckmann as doctor, receiving condoling "replies" until both joined in a duet based on the single word, "Help." At another point, a solo soprano is seen welcoming a silent swarm of extras, dressed as WWII-era refugees, into her protective custody. > Has Monk been > politically active or vocal in > the past, or is she operating from a more > general humanist basis? I don't honestly know Monk's politics, but she's certainly dealt in humanist themes in 'Ellis Island' and 'Atlas.' Related to neither of the above, one of the most striking images was the opening, with Monk and Ann Hamilton seated opposite one another at a table. Hamilton holds something up to Monk's mouth, and Monk begins to sing. On a huge screen behind the stage, you see two elongated, curved lines moving up and down in time with the singing. At first I thought that Hamilton was holding a camera to Monk's mouth -- and that's how the New York Times interpreted it in her review. Only when I vaguely made out the image of Hamilton's face in the hazy distance between the moving shapes did I realize she was holding up a light, and the camera was actually inside Monk's mouth, pointing out... Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com

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