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Frank Butler passed away at 92
by Bob Eeg 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

Sad day for Catalina owners. Catalina Yachts Announces Loss of CEO Frank W. Butler Woodland Hills, CA – November 15, 2020 – Catalina Yachts today issued the following statement: It is with great sadness that we announce that Frank Willis Butler, President and Chief Executive Officer of Catalina Yachts, passed away November 15, 2020 in Westlake Village, CA, due to unexpected complications from a recent illness. We extend our most heartfelt condolences and sympathy to Frank's family. Our thoughts are with them at this most difficult time. A sailing icon and industry “kingspoke”, Frank Butler has introduced hundreds of thousands of people to sailing during his lifetime. Those of us who have been fortunate enough to know and work with Frank have lost a dear friend and an inspiring mentor. Frank leaves behind a company that only he could have built, and his spirit will forever be the foundation of Catalina Yachts. *** Born in California in 1928, Frank’s line of popular sailboats put more than 85,000 Catalinas on the water throughout the yachting world. His boatbuilding career began in 1962, when he contracted with a Southern California builder for a 21’ daysailer. The builder was unable to finish the boat, and gave Butler the tooling. He completed building the boat himself, found he enjoyed the process, and agreed to take over the company. A few years later he founded Catalina Yachts, which has grown to become the largest builder of fiberglass production sailboats in the United States, a position it holds to this day. A key to Butler’s success in the sailboat industry was his attention to Catalina customers. Handling warranty issues himself, owners were nearly always surprised and reassured to get a personal call from Frank to discuss their concerns. Butler was inducted into the National Sailing Hall of Fame in 2013. In recognition of his support of the Congressional Cup, a world match racing event, Long Beach Yacht Club awarded him the Crimson Blazer. He was also a founder and lifelong member of the Westlake Yacht Club in Westlake, CA. Following his graduation from Glendale High School, he served in the US Navy. He met his wife, Jean, at a school dance; they recently celebrated their 71st anniversary. Frank is survived by Jean, their four daughters, Deborah Reese, Mary Linn, Nancy Bear, and Karen Butler; three sons, David, Robert and Steve; 20 grandchildren, 28 great-grandchildren, and four great-great-grandchildren. Awakening the joy of sailing for so many people in past generations, Frank Butler’s sailing legacy will certainly continue well into in future generations. Sent from my iPad

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Re: M_Boats: M15 cockpit drains
by Jim Sadler 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Dave Have other skippers improved the cockpit drains in the M15? I am planning to take the Pelican to sea and if I took a wave over the stern the cock pit would not drain fast enough......right? Capt Jim -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:15 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast Jim. Anything with a buffing agent will remove the alum oxide where the anodizing is missing. The oxide is a very effective protectant. Buffing compound will also damage/remove the anodizing. I'm sure there is discussion out there on some www-site on waxing aluminum spars but IMO you are making work and causing more work to be needed in the future. I never once had anyone every question how the masts looked on my '84 M15 and '83 M17. Folks looked at the brightwork and shiny gel coat topsides and hull. SWEET PEA's (a M17) tanbark sails also received positive comments. Raise the mast and go sailing. Better use of your time. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 12:58 PM Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> wrote: > Thanks Captain > > I checked on new mast......$700 plus $300 shipping! > > Is there anyway to just clean it? Without damage to anodize ? Maybe > wax it? The Pelican looks great except for the bloches on the mast. > > Jim S > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> > On Behalf Of Dave Scobie > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:58 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast > > Unless you do the refinishing yourself, hand painting after taking off > all hardware, sanding, sanding, acid etching, paint, repaint, it will > be cheaper to buy a new mast. > > A spar shop will likely know a place that can do painting (there is an > Westsail 26 near me, for example, that has a freshly painted mast - > the owner likely had it done at Port Townsend Rigging or SEA Marine at > Point Hudson). This is $$$. > > A painted mast on a trailered boat, or boat that is rigged/de-rigged > often will quickly show wear, scratches and dings. > > Save your money and buy new sails - the #1 thing you can do to make > the boat sail better. Or put the funds into the cruising kitty and > take a long trip! > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 10:45 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks David > > > > Not damaged > > > > No extensive corrosion > > > > Not bent > > > > I is just 40 years old and now the Pelican is not berthed the > > garage, but in a slip in Oceanside harbor. > > > > It just doesn’t look Bristol like the rest of the vessel > > > > Capt Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: montgomery_boats > > <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > On Behalf Of Dave Scobie > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:34 AM > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast > > > > Jim: > > > > Is the mast damaged? Is there extensive corrosion under the hardware? > > Has it been bent? > > > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > :: M6'8" #650 > > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:35 AM Jim Sadler > > <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Bob > > > Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re > > > anadized or powder coated? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Capt Jim Sadler > > > SV Pelican > > > > > >

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Winter storage
by Peter Zimowsky 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

Hi folks: A note on winter outside storage if you use your boat in colder months. My M 15 is covered with a tarp over the mast like a giant tent. After each use I make sure all water drained on drive home. Make sure no debris like leaves clogging center board slot so it will not hold water in cockpit. I use an electric motor in winter and the outboard is stored in garage. Hardly use motor - sail from and to dock. All electronics with batteries are stored in a backpack that goes in and out of boat with each sail day. The front of the trailer is lower than back to allow water to drain thru CB slot. And no accumulation in cockpit. Even though boat is covered wind may send snow or rain inside. Although we can have 40 degree days it gets down in 20s at night and ice can cause damage. I check boat every day it is covered for water and ice, except when traveling. Haven’t had trouble. Anyone have ideas? Pete Chinook Breeze Sent from my iPhone

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Saw an M15 driving through Monroe Oregon
by Lawrence Winiarski 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

on hwy 99 about 2pm. Just curious who it was?

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Lake Havasu for sailing?
by John Schinnerer 14 Nov '20

14 Nov '20

Hi all, Anyone here been sailing on Lake Havasu? Just wondering if it's any good, especially in the "off-season" wintry part of the year when maybe there's less powerboat madness. There's a whole bunch of boat-in campsites... thanks, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Sails
by Peter Zimowsky 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Hi folks: Since I sail thru winter and trailer to the reservoir I worry about wet sails at the end of the day. I’ve stores my sails through winter in the cabin of M15 and had no trouble over last five years in temps in teens. Idaho is pretty dry even in winter and the weather station in the boat indicates low humidity. However today I’m going to be in snow and rain on the reservoir and wondering if it would be a good idea to store the sails in the garage overnight to dry out before putting them back in the boat again until next weeks sail. They are new sails from Elliott Paterson. Do sails she’s the water? Is there a chance for mold? Worry wart sailor What do u guys do? Pete Sent from my iPhone

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WTB M15
by Steve Parsons 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

I recently sold my C-Dory 22 Cruiser, and would like to buy another M15. I’d prefer a newer boat with lead ballast, but will consider any clean boat in good condition. If anyone has one and is looking for a buyer, please let me know. I’m in NE Oregon. Steve 5zero3 7zero5 3zero6three Sent from my iPad

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Navisafe lights
by Peter Zimowsky 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

Thanks everyone for the suggestions on Navisafe battery operated lights. Love them. Super bright. Can;’t wait to hit the San Juans this summer. Good winds, Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Island lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it," - — Robert Swan, Arctic explorer and climate activist

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 212, Issue 13
by ken webb 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

Stop Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: 28/10/2020 18:00 (GMT+00:00) To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 212, Issue 13 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: M12 Hull #1 headsail (Dave Scobie) 2. Re: M12 Hull #1 headsail (jerry montgomery) 3. Re: M12 Hull #1 headsail (bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com) 4. Re: M12 Hull #1 headsail (jerry montgomery) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 13:04:48 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4hre7BbrqxaY=+RUU8o+Jh4ueC_N0ZX52R3-zLi-FVGw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Bill: Harry at EPSailmakers has made sails for the M12. Get in touch with him about getting a jib for your boat - epsails.com Ullman Sails has also made M12 jibs. I'm working at figuring out which Ullman loft has the details. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 3:54 PM bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Because I was struck with the lines of the boat when driving by, I bought > an M12 out of guy's front yard in North Florida about four years ago. I > have sailed it a few time and it is a delight. Because I owned a Hunter 41 > Deck Salon which I sold recently, I had little time for the M12. It is > stored at my farm in South Georgia. While starting to clean her up (waxing > hull, freshen teak, etc.) I noticed on the brass hull plate the following: > > > > "Montgomery Marine" in faded letters > > > > "Type" in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "12" > > > > "No." in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "1" > > > > Does this mean this is Hull Number 1 of the M12's? > > > > Attached is a photo of the hull plate (upside down because the boat is > upside on stands being waxed) and a photo of the boat on my farm pond about > a year after I bought it. > > > > Thanks, Bill Bowen > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:24:02 +0000 From: jerry montgomery <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Message-ID: <BYAPR19MB2872A4B85B639C6D98E62044E6160(a)BYAPR19MB2872.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We usually used lappers for the 12, instead of a working jib. jerry ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:04 PM To: bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Bill: Harry at EPSailmakers has made sails for the M12. Get in touch with him about getting a jib for your boat - epsails.com Ullman Sails has also made M12 jibs. I'm working at figuring out which Ullman loft has the details. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 3:54 PM bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Because I was struck with the lines of the boat when driving by, I bought > an M12 out of guy's front yard in North Florida about four years ago. I > have sailed it a few time and it is a delight. Because I owned a Hunter 41 > Deck Salon which I sold recently, I had little time for the M12. It is > stored at my farm in South Georgia. While starting to clean her up (waxing > hull, freshen teak, etc.) I noticed on the brass hull plate the following: > > > > "Montgomery Marine" in faded letters > > > > "Type" in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "12" > > > > "No." in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "1" > > > > Does this mean this is Hull Number 1 of the M12's? > > > > Attached is a photo of the hull plate (upside down because the boat is > upside on stands being waxed) and a photo of the boat on my farm pond about > a year after I bought it. > > > > Thanks, Bill Bowen > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com" <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Message-ID: <1603833672.378910098(a)apps.rackspace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank You Jerry! You can tell I am new to the M12 world. What % would your recommend for a knock around sail (not likely to race)? Thanks, Bill B -----Original Message----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:24pm To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail We usually used lappers for the 12, instead of a working jib. jerry ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:04 PM To: bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Bill: Harry at EPSailmakers has made sails for the M12. Get in touch with him about getting a jib for your boat - epsails.com Ullman Sails has also made M12 jibs. I'm working at figuring out which Ullman loft has the details. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 3:54 PM bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Because I was struck with the lines of the boat when driving by, I bought > an M12 out of guy's front yard in North Florida about four years ago. I > have sailed it a few time and it is a delight. Because I owned a Hunter 41 > Deck Salon which I sold recently, I had little time for the M12. It is > stored at my farm in South Georgia. While starting to clean her up (waxing > hull, freshen teak, etc.) I noticed on the brass hull plate the following: > > > > "Montgomery Marine" in faded letters > > > > "Type" in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "12" > > > > "No." in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "1" > > > > Does this mean this is Hull Number 1 of the M12's? > > > > Attached is a photo of the hull plate (upside down because the boat is > upside on stands being waxed) and a photo of the boat on my farm pond about > a year after I bought it. > > > > Thanks, Bill Bowen > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:04:34 +0000 From: jerry montgomery <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> To: "bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com" <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Message-ID: <BYAPR19MB2872D79311B59B6A25392CB1E6160(a)BYAPR19MB2872.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Probably a bit over 100%; the sailmaker should have a sailplan. jerry ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:21 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Thank You Jerry! You can tell I am new to the M12 world. What % would your recommend for a knock around sail (not likely to race)? Thanks, Bill B -----Original Message----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:24pm To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail We usually used lappers for the 12, instead of a working jib. jerry ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:04 PM To: bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Bill: Harry at EPSailmakers has made sails for the M12. Get in touch with him about getting a jib for your boat - epsails.com Ullman Sails has also made M12 jibs. I'm working at figuring out which Ullman loft has the details. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 3:54 PM bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Because I was struck with the lines of the boat when driving by, I bought > an M12 out of guy's front yard in North Florida about four years ago. I > have sailed it a few time and it is a delight. Because I owned a Hunter 41 > Deck Salon which I sold recently, I had little time for the M12. It is > stored at my farm in South Georgia. While starting to clean her up (waxing > hull, freshen teak, etc.) I noticed on the brass hull plate the following: > > > > "Montgomery Marine" in faded letters > > > > "Type" in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "12" > > > > "No." in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "1" > > > > Does this mean this is Hull Number 1 of the M12's? > > > > Attached is a photo of the hull plate (upside down because the boat is > upside on stands being waxed) and a photo of the boat on my farm pond about > a year after I bought it. > > > > Thanks, Bill Bowen > > > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 212, Issue 13 *************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail
by bill.bowen＠premierhotel.com 27 Oct '20

27 Oct '20

Thank You Jerry! You can tell I am new to the M12 world. What % would your recommend for a knock around sail (not likely to race)? Thanks, Bill B -----Original Message----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:24pm To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail We usually used lappers for the 12, instead of a working jib. jerry ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:04 PM To: bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com <bill.bowen(a)premierhotel.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M12 Hull #1 headsail Bill: Harry at EPSailmakers has made sails for the M12. Get in touch with him about getting a jib for your boat - epsails.com Ullman Sails has also made M12 jibs. I'm working at figuring out which Ullman loft has the details. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 3:54 PM bill.bowen--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Because I was struck with the lines of the boat when driving by, I bought > an M12 out of guy's front yard in North Florida about four years ago. I > have sailed it a few time and it is a delight. Because I owned a Hunter 41 > Deck Salon which I sold recently, I had little time for the M12. It is > stored at my farm in South Georgia. While starting to clean her up (waxing > hull, freshen teak, etc.) I noticed on the brass hull plate the following: > > > > "Montgomery Marine" in faded letters > > > > "Type" in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "12" > > > > "No." in faded letters followed by a hammer stamped "1" > > > > Does this mean this is Hull Number 1 of the M12's? > > > > Attached is a photo of the hull plate (upside down because the boat is > upside on stands being waxed) and a photo of the boat on my farm pond about > a year after I bought it. > > > > Thanks, Bill Bowen > > > > >

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