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Re: M_Boats: swinging at anchor
by Larry E Yake 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

I wonder if my roller furler makes it worse. Seems likely, with the extra windage forward. On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:40:51 -0700 "jerry" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> writes: > That's funny- I don't remember ever haviong a 17 swing at anchor. A > 23, > yes, but not a 17 or a 15. I wonder if it could be that I nearly > always put > up a boom awning. Or my fat body flaked out in the cockpit, snoring > away? > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Conbert H Benneck" <chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: swinging at anchor > > > > Hi Bert, > > > > That idea works very well, if you only have one anchor out. > > > > Another solution is to set two bow anchors in a "V". Then the > boat won't > swing around as much. > > > > A third solution is a small riding sail set on the back stay. It > acts as > an air rudder, and keeps the boat headed into the wind. > > > > Connie > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "Flickasf(a)aol.com" <Flickasf(a)aol.com> > > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:56:14 AM > > Subject: M_Boats: swinging at anchor > > > > I saw a M 17 at anchor using the following system; the vessel was > not > > swinging in the wind. You might give it a try. The anchor rode > was led > off the > > bow and a snatch block was attached to it leading to the cockpit > making > > bridle. The angle to the wind could there fore be adjusted. > > > > Bert Felton > > M 15, #365 > > Zephyr > > > > > > ************** > > Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > > car listings at AOL Autos. > > > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1402 - Release Date: > 4/28/2008 > 1:29 PM > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: M_Boats: New-guy/Old-guy / "Mature" M15
by Paint4Real＠aol.com 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Thanks, Robbin. (My name's Steven.) I've studied up on the blister repair and in fact have all the supplies, so I'm not really going to be able to talk myself out of getting started on the job. Obviously, I can proceed as time permits (though there's another Minnesota winter sitting on the other side of the sailing season, and I don't have a heated garage, so I can't tarry too long.) West System has quite a bit of literature on repairs, and I'm comfortable with using their products. I built the WoodenBoat Nutshell sailing pram using West epoxy, many years ago (a good little sailor, still going, likes lots of wind, turns a lot of heads). I'll probably use a few small blisters as my guinea pigs, before opening up the larger ones. I'm sure it'll be a project. There's a brand of gelcoat carried by West Marine -- I think it's Evercoat -- and if I remember correctly, the label says that it can't be put over epoxy. West Marine's own brand doesn't say that (I don't think), but I'm trying to find out what that's about. I had assumed I could fill any voids with a thickened epoxy and then finish the patch off with a layer of color-matched gelcoat -- but now I'm not sure if that'll work. And it might be more trouble than it's worth. I mentioned that I'd like not to go to a bottom paint -- but that's in part because I think it spoils part of the beautiful sheer of the lapstrake molding design. However, Interlux has some Fiberglass Bottomkote in a gray-white tint, which wouldn't be as obtrusive. And if I knew I was going to go ahead and use the paint, the blister repairs could just proceed more quickly as fill-and-sand areas that could just be faired out and prepped for painting. I may have talked myself into that even as I typed it out. I do know that a big part of the problem was likely the closed, super-hot and -humid cabin. I did put a low-profile vent in the foredeck soon after I bought the boat, but of course you have to pull that out and cover it when you're going to be gone. Something about driving rainstorms and nesting yellowjackets. If anyone knows the answer to whether you can apply gelcoat over an epoxy patch, please post. Thanks. Steven ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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Raven
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Bones, and all who read this......let's be totally clear about this......Rick's restoration of Raven is on a scale and a quality level far exceeding any work that I have done!!! He IS the guru if you ask me. Raven is absolutely stunning. I hope to someday get Dauntless' topsides looking half as good. Way to go Rick!!!! **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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swinging at anchor
by Flickasf＠aol.com 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

I saw a M 17 at anchor using the following system; the vessel was not swinging in the wind. You might give it a try. The anchor rode was led off the bow and a snatch block was attached to it leading to the cockpit making bridle. The angle to the wind could there fore be adjusted. Bert Felton M 15, #365 Zephyr ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy
by John Gonzalez 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Tim, when I anchored out on my M-15, my boat would swing to and fro, too. So, I bought an anchor riding sail from Sail-Rite, rig it when I anchor for an overnight, and have found the to and from motion is greatly, greatly reduced, now. I have no sewing skills, so I paid Sail-Rite to assemble the kit for me. http://www.sailrite.com/anchor-riding-sail-kit Sincerely, John M-15, 624, Bella

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Re: M_Boats: Raven
by bownez＠juno.com 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Bill, Once again, another M-boat beautifully presented! Rick, I commend your splendid efforts, Raven looks fabulous! You are a restoration guru, hands down. (not to take ANYTHING away from Sean!). M-boats rock. Bones _____________________________________________________________ See Mexico for less! Click now for great vacation deals! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mqbsELCrel53bFemTADqTs3X…

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Re: M_Boats: robbin roddewig advice on bottom painting/refurbishing...M-17
by Michael Ray Wisely 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

On 4/26/08 7:20 PM, "montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > robbin roddewig Thanks for the advice Robbin, I will take all of the advice I've been given and put it to the test so I can possibly give out my experience at some future date. This is really a great list with many generous people on it. It isn't too late btw, I have not even touched the boat as I've been too busy with work. I'm afraid by the time I do, it will be the summer wind season on the SF Bay and that limits the days you can go out because of tide timing and such. Now if I just had a flexible furler with a genoa I might be able to tackle it single handed. My family will not go out in a blow. (and I don't blame them really, it can get really nasty out there for a small boat on a summer afternoon.) I read somewhere on the list about painting inside the centerboard trunk with some of the thin rollers they sell. I've seen them at Home Depot. If you have pictures of your process, send me a link. And let me ask you a couple of CB questions since you are in the middle of it. 1. Which way to the CB pins drive out and what is the process? 2. What do you use to secure them back in? 3. Are there any trouble spots in these two task to keep in mind? Thanks for your message. It is much appreciated.

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Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Larry has, as usual, great input. A quiet body of water to anchor in, protected bay, marina, etc. will make the difference on whether one gets any rest, or is tortured by fitful sleep, or one is constantly checking anchor. The first night I spent aboard my M17, I was definitely annoyed by the lapping water on the lapstrake. On the M23, it is no where near as pronounced. Regardless, the price we pay for sailing small trailerables, in the long run, in my humble opinion, we are still the winners. Get out there and do it. Bones _____________________________________________________________ Internet Advertising that Works. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m6F9AHMjZDZT7c3SyfrncwcL…

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15' Montgomery Trailerable Sailboat
by Larry E Yake 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/656686245.html M15 in the Seattle area.

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Re: M_Boats: Rope Halyard
by John Gonzalez 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Hi, Bob. All is well; could not be better, and our M-15 is treating us well. Hope all is well for you, sir. Sincerely, John M-15, 624, Bella

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