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new boat
by Vincent G. Gallagher 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

I am just about to order my new M-15 from Montgomery Boats. I spent the last year researching and I think the M-15 is the best bet for my needs. I am really excited. I moved here to Stuart Florida, after living in Pennsylania and have been wanting to get out on the water so badly. I live less than 2 miles to a boat access onto the Intercoastal Waterway, Indian River, St. Lucie River and coastal access. I have 2 sons aged 10 and 13 who are going to be very excited, as well. I am planning on taking sailing lessons. I am writing because I am a newbie and will probably post alot in the beginning. Thank you all for advance. Question: When the boat is on its trailer...how many feet long is it, total? Thanks -- Vincent G. Gallagher, M.A. St. Thomas University School of Law Class of 2009

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Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska
by Danelle Landis 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi Gordon, That's pretty cool - there are a few molecules of your boat on mine, probably! Do you sail on the lakes there in WI? Danelle ----- Original Message ---- From: Gordon Gilbert <gordon(a)financialwriting.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:49:07 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska Hi, Danelle: Congrats on your new boat! If yours is hull #378, I guess mine -- #MMP173771183 -- was built just before yours in November 1983. Have fun! Gordon Milwaukee On Mar 28, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Danelle Landis wrote: > Hi all, > > Such a warm welcome, thanks! > > I did take of photo of the boat today, but my three-year old is > posing by it, so it's not really the most technically informational > photo... We're having it hauled out and put on blocks Monday > morning, so I'll get a lot of really good shots and upload them. > > This morning I looked for the boat's numbers. Unfortunately the > blue hull was painted over thickly at some point with blue paint, > so only part of the numbers were visible after staring hard with > the right angle of bright sunlight. (Yes, bright sunlight in > Ketchikan!) It looked like: M------3781083 The zero is a close > guess, but it looks like I at least know it was built in 1983, > maybe hull #378? > > I'll feel relieved to get a look at the bottom, as the CB fixes > were the way I found the Montgomery owners website - from googling > the boat, then I studied the photos to see what we might be taking > on, when the owner mentioned that the CB had been stuck partway > down for a long time. Someone cut the line to it too, and the > opening that goes into the CB pocket from the winch has epoxy or > something blobbed over it. The top gudgeon fitting for the rudder > has two of the three bolts missing too, and the bracket is just > swinging off of one bolt. (the rudder's in my house) Looking at > that today, I see why the previous owner hadn't fixed it. I guess > one would almost have to cut out the fiberglass, with so little > access. I read about someone's swim ladder installation that > addressed this... > > David P - did you live up here in rain country too, or only your > daughter? > > Bill - thanks for the encouragement to document the projects. I > know I have been very grateful for what people have shared, and I > haven't even started yet! > > John B - I just knew I'd run into one or two people who were > connected with this area! Boy, can I relate to your getting-towed > story! My family has so many stories of being towed, especially in > the rivers with their shifting bottoms, when we went aground a few > times, and when we had outboards die at the worst times (entering > huge locks next to giant barges and tugs, with house-sized > whirlpools sucking at our boat, for instance) Sailing is such a > story-generating hobby! Nothing like getting laughed at by > compatriots to make it all more fun! What was your Matthews > cruiser's name? It'd be fun to run across it maybe sometime...do > you think it would be here in Ktn, if it isn't scrapped by now? > > David S - thanks for the link about Scred! Great backstory for a > name. I'm an SNL fan too, but haven't seen Scred. I'm thinking > hard about names. I like the idea of using one of the sea nymph > sisters of Halimede, because that was our big, ugly unpainted > aluminum boat's name when we first bought her. My parents changed > the name (isn't that bad luck???) to Pacific Rays, after a > nightmare summer of cutting out and replacing 60 percent of the > plates that had horrible electrolysis holes, then painting it. I > and my little sister worked ten or twelve hour days most of that > summer with delightful jobs like grinding welds and sanding bottom > paint. Every teenage girl's dream summer, right? ha ha. > > Thanks for the welcome and encouragement! > > Danelle Landis > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of > Blockbuster Total Access now > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

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The big haul-out
by Danelle Landis 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Thanks for the encouragement, Howard! Boy, you're not kidding about the kids thing...As a stay-at-home mom with a 12 year old, 10 year old and three-year-old, three cats, and three dogs - sawing rust off of a CB seems utterly peaceful! ha ha We had the boat hauled yesterday morning. (I was so nervous, I could hardly eat breakfast - and that is drastic, for me!) They started before I got there, and she was already up in the sling, waiting for pressure washing, looking so tiny in that big lift! The bottom paint, like the hull paint, is pretty fresh-looking, and so the growth wasn't too horrible. Several clusters of mussels, and that's it. The CB, however, with no bottom paint, was utterly unrecognizable with the bristling of mussels, seaweed and algae. As the owners had said, the CB is stuck with about one foot sticking out. We've worked on it a bit, but our metal bars were too thick to work up in the pocket. The top of the pocket, over the hole the line feeds through from the CB to the winch, as I mentioned before, was sealed with what looked like bond-o when we chipped it off. The hole is ragged. We were wondering if anyone had ever simply cut the top of the CB pocket off, so that we could access the CB from above? Since we need to repair and refit the line entry hole anyway? Thanks! Danelle ----- Original Message ---- From: Howard Audsley <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:02:08 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska Welcome Danelle: Once you start your refit, when you run into questions, just ask. If the boat needs it, somebody on this list has done it. Most boats will have the same issues. It's all been figured out. Some of it takes some sweat and work, but can be done by mere mortals. That our boats still float and sail should all the proof you need to keep you going. Compared to raising kids, this is a piece of cake! Howard ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

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Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska
by Danelle Landis 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi Tim, Thanks for the welcome. Now I'm curious - where are you located? Funny you mention a book, writing is one of my other things I love to do - I have a mystery novel written and have shopped it around some, with a sequel partway done, but am rehabbing the first one a bit right now. It's based on my search and rescue dog activities though. As I've been revisiting a lot of my memories of our life moving onto the boat, I have been thinking of writing a book based on those. My dad's propensity for doing things in odd ways, and loving sailing in weather no one else went out in, and just being sort of a crazy guy, made for a lot of adventures, dangerous situations, and tense family dynamics. (Remember how all the whole family moved off of the boat when we got to Alaska, except my dad?) My dad singlehandedly sailed that 50' boat all over Alaska, down to Mexico, over to Hawaii - he had lots of wild adventures after we moved off too. My little brother lived down in Mexico on the boat with my dad for a few years when my brother was eleven - thirteen or so. They rode their motorcycles around the desert, worked for a missionary project, and just adventured around. My brother built his own steel sailboat when he was nineteen, here in Ketchikan. He planned to circumnavigate the arctic with it, so built it with some unique design features. He got distracted with a girlfriend, etc, so sold it, but he's rehabbed and lived on many sailboats since. He just sold his most recent two sailboats down in Port Townsend, WA, and went to Ecuador for a couple of months...lots of stories in our family! So now I can blame my long posts on my novelist tendencies! Danelle ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Diebert <tim(a)timtone.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:04:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska Wow. What an interesting backround! Sounds like there could be a book in you..... Welcome to this place. You picked a nice design for your first small boat. Regardless of the work needed, they are fun and quite capable. I am sure there is the odd person around here that can help you with any advice or guidance in the repair department. Including the chap that made your boat. Have fun. Tim Diebert M17 Just a couple of miles south of you on the 49th. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Danelle Landis Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:10 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska Hi, Danelle Landis here, I've been enjoying learning from the archives - and I have a *lot* to learn! I just bought an M17 here in Ketchikan, Alaska that of course, needs a lot of attention. It is pretty sound mostly, but needs what looks to be the typical repairs and rehabs that the older (I think it must be between 1981 and 1987). It's got the notorious rusted/stuck CB, and the boat has been sitting in saltwater, uncovered, in a marina for the last year and a half, probably longer. We need to haul it asap, but it came with no trailer. We'll probably have to buy one and have it barged up from Seattle. The sails are in great condition - even a spinnaker! Poor thing hasn't been really valued highly - she has no name, and I just realized today that the beat up old tiller is actually an old axe handle, among other pending projects. I started sailing with my family when I was about 7, on a Blanchard 26 on Coeur d'Alene lake in ID. My dad totally caught the bug and decided he wanted to retire at age 30, and move onto a sailboat. We did it, on the Islander 30 we had by that time, all five of us - us kids were 4, 10 and 14. We launched the boat at Lewiston, ID and sailed through the locks and dams in the Snake, Columbia rivers, the up the WA coast to Seattle where my parents promptly bought a Cal Cruising 36. It seemed HUGE. Eventually, we bought a 50' custom wierdly-designed aluminum hard-chined gaff-rigged sailboat we lived on for the next five years, and sailed up here to Alaska - our first dream destination. From there, the family all moved off and my dad kept on sailing, living aboard in Mexico, Hawaii, Sitka...for another fifteen years. He and I sailed the aluminum boat (since rehabbed into a regular sloop) from Hawaii to Seattle in 1988. Anyway, I've missed sailing all these years, and when this little M17 became available for only $2,500, I had to snap it up! I've never sailed on such a small boat before, but from what I've read so far, they sound capable of taking hard weather (we have plenty here), but are fun to sail too. The sailing part is second nature to me, the repairs - well, I'll need a lot of advice and help from my husband, who is great at those things, fortunately. I want to do most of it myself though. Having my own sailboat has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager pouring over "Sailpower" on my cozy bunk. My other hobbies - I'm a stay at home mom of three, and I have been a K9 Search and Rescue handler for twelve years. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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Drawing M-15
by jim sadler 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Do any of you skippers know where I can get a scale design drawing of M-15? I can find many pictures and artist renderings but not a actual design drawing Thanks Capt'n Jim Sadler M-15 Pelican

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