August 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Fw: The results of your email commands
by Keith Diehl 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

This bounced to me so I thought I'd re-post it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: <montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: The results of your email commands > The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your > original message. > > > - Unprocessed: > Date: Thu Aug 5, 2004 3:17:27 PM US/Pacific > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Montgomery 17, 1983 for Sale > Dear Montgomery Lovers, > I have a 1983 Montgomery 17 for sale. I live in San Rafael > California, (S.F. Bay Area) The boat is in excellent condition, was > recently hauled, and has new bottom paint. I have a Pineapple working > jib and main, original jib and main, storm jib, lapper,and a genoa. > The boat is very fully equipped, with stove , sink and water tank, > portapotti, depth finder, autopilot, 4 hp Evinrude with power prop, > bilge pump, compass, ladder, stainless BBQ, masthead tricolor and > windex, whisker pole, anchor, trailrite galvanized trailer, etc. I > am asking $6500 for the boat, I have pictures I can e mail if you're > interested, please call 415-457-1026, or e- mail me at: > willarddixon(a)mac.com for further info. > Cheers, Willard > > - Ignored: > > > > - Done. > >

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RE: M_Boats: Return to Priest Lake
by bownez＠juno.com 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

Larry, Good work sailor! Ever think about joining the Coast Guard? Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Re: M_Boats: Bilge talk again
by bownez＠juno.com 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Jerry, Thanks for your feedback. Had a wonderful weekend on my M23, nice steady winds on both days, and many compliments on the boat. Talked with a former M17 owner in the marina that now sails a Cape Dory 25D, and although he likes the capability for him and his wife to sleep aboard, he misses his M boat greatly. He sailed his M17 for 17 years! Later, Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Re: M_Boats: MORE BILGE QUESTIONS]
by chbenneck＠juno.com 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Don, I have a small PAR hand pump (the kind that can be used for water; to change engine oil; etc, and comes in a kit with various diameter hoses and attachments) By putting a large diameter hose on the bottom of the pump (about 1" ID - off the top of my head) I can snake the hose into the rear bilge via my starboard sail locker and pump it dry. (I also put another hose on the outlet so that the water that is pumped out goes into the cockpit and drains via the CB pennant hole.) If you have leaves / dirt in the centerboard, that may be the reason why it doesn't drain properly. Try putting a garden hose in the hole and do a bit of power flushing............. Mine drains very nicely - never had a problem. Connie M15 #400

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MORE BILGE QUESTIONS]
by Don G 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

List Members - I didn't know if this had been covered before (I'm a new list reader), but...... On my M15 (#260) we recently had a BUNCH of water dumped in the passenger area (______) and some of it wound up on the cabin floor. While trying to clean up, drain, etc, I notice that the "self/auto bailing" feature does not seem to be working well. (Water which should drain out around the centerboard retracting line does not, and only a trickle is leaving the centerboard area under the boat. And in trying to troubleshoot, I find several gallons of water in what seems to be the area described in recent list submissions as "the bilge area". Any suggestions on where I can read about possible clean out strategies? Or what could be clogging up the auto bailer? Or how this whole system is designed to work?

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boom-gallows
by Honshells 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Thanks, Dan. The gallows I'm considering would be mounted to the coamings, as with the new M23 Offshore Cutter, or even outside the coamings. It would be outside the cockpit, and would only affect headroom as far as cockpit space goes. Also, in order to align with the end of the boom, it would be significantly inboard of the transom, again, as with the M23, and would not interfere with the outboard at all, which I always mount and unmount while standing on the tarmac before launch anyway. The gallows would keep the boom at bay, would provide a good support for a cockpit boom tent, and a great support when stepping and trailering the mast. It would interfere somewhat when going forward/aft as it would have to be a "duck-under" in order to be at boom height, but I think the "duck-under" hassle might be offset by the fact that it would eliminate getting whacked in the head by the boom. A topping lift is a good, inexpensive alternative, but doesn't have the other advantages I've cited. As with most features on traditional boats, the boom-gallows is a very sensible, functional accessory. And it is employed on recent production boats such as the ComPac Sun Cat. As a matter of fact, I've climbed around on the Sun Cat at boat shows, and the gallows wasn't an obstruction, but a good hand-hold. 'Course, helps that I'm only 5' tall. The link below illustrates the boom-gallows' advantage in rigging the Sun Cat. Granted, the wonderful hinged mast on the Sun Cat facilitates the operation, but I can see the advantage with the M17 deck-stepped. --Craig, chonshell(a)ia4u.net; m17 #389 http://www.yachtworks.net/images/NewBOATS/RiggingSunCat.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan White" <danwhite(a)austin.rr.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: boom-gallows My thought would be that ba gallows would severely interfere with movement of people in the cockpit. Tasks such as mounting and unmounting the outboard, for example, would become cumbersome. Why not just use a topping lift and then lash the boom to stern cleats to eliminate the port/starboard swing of the boom if it is a problem? Dan M-17 #316-B Honshells wrote: A boom-gallows on an M17: Any reason why it shouldn't be done?

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Re: M_Boats: What a great day! Bought my M-17 today
by bobjudy2＠comcast.net 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

OK! I'm looking forward to it. We can even use my Explorer to launch her if you don't feel comfortable doing it with your Honda. Bob > Thanks Bob, > When I get her down to the City, I'll give you a call. Hopefully you'll have > some time to help me with the shake down cruise. > Bill > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Towing with motor attached
by bownez＠juno.com 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Hi again Bill, No boat yet? You must be anxious! The electric motor may work, I used one on a Capri 14.2 I owned in the late 80's. It was fine for the small city lake I was on. But, SF Bay is another world! I question whether the electric will have enough power to get you through the wind, current and chop. Greanted, you may wish to use it only for in and out of the marina, but there will be a time when you need to get somewhere in a more timely manner. Then, the battery issue. The weight of a good group 24 AGM like I use in UPS systems is 58 lbs. A real pain haul around if you need to for charging. Solar panels will not charge quickly enough. I'll be curious to know how it works out. I think the weight on my Yamaha 4hp, 4str is in the high 40lb range. It does have F-N-R and can use it's top fuel tank or a remote. Later, Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Re: M_Boats: What a great day! Bought my M-17 today
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

Thanks Bob, When I get her down to the City, I'll give you a call. Hopefully you'll have some time to help me with the shake down cruise. Bill

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Bilge talk again
by bownez＠juno.com 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

Dear Jerry and listers, I have my 76 M17 #92 under refit, and I was curious to investigate the mystery bilge area that I didn't recall having. After shoehorning my 6'2" frame with a flashlight down the quarterbirth, I can find no opening whatsoever behind the centerboard trunk. I do have the large plastic holding tank for the galley sink, perhaps when the holding tank is used, the blige opening is glassed over? I wonder, if water does find its way in there, how does one remove it? There does seem to be a bit of weeping around the swing keel bolt. Great to re-aquaint myself with my first "M" boat. I plan to move her to Duluth, Mn to sail the area Labor Day weekend. Later, Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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