May 2003 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re Single Handling
by Egatempo＠aol.com 20 May '03

20 May '03

> I have turning blocks and cam cleats mounted on the cabin top but never run > the lines thru them as it seems unnecessary. Just reach up and grab the > main halyard, pull the sail up and cleat it off. > Wayne I guess having sailed my Seaward 22 for so long I have not thought about the smaller size of the 17. Could you send me the information on the hardware and it's location just in case I decide to rig her any way. George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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Question for Wayne RE: Mast raising
by Seawitch 20 May '03

20 May '03

Wayne, I read with interest your system for raising your mast and have a question, while standing in the cockpit and walking the mast forward, do you at any point have to step out of the cockpit to get enough elevation to complete the job? Also, how tall are you? I find myself having to step up onto the cabin top to get enough lift. This is quite a maneuver. ===== Time for a cool change! Sandra __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Re: M_Boats: Long distance towing
by Randy Watkins 20 May '03

20 May '03

Jerry, You're correct on the straps chaffing the boat.You can wrap the strap with carpet or leather where it touches the finish and that will help protect it. Randy W. <<< jrduke1(a)dslextreme.com 5/17 8:00p >>> Hello, I wonder if it's advisable to tie the boat to the trailer when towing long distances. If so , what is the best way. It seems that tie down straps would chaff the gel coat. Regards, Jerry M17 333 -- JD _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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knockdown
by Richard Cottrell 20 May '03

20 May '03

Wendell: It was good to meet another M15 owner yesterday at Woodward Resevoir. I went out with a heavy 26 sf storm jib and one reef in the main. Most the time I felt a little under canvassed except for occasional really strong gusts. I sailed to the dam to the windward race bouy to observe the Hobie race. While at the dam, the wind died completey. I assumed the next gust would come from the dirction of the dam, which was only a couple hundred yards from me. A second later I was over with my face in the water holding on to the lifelines. It was a sudden huge blast which I think came out of the east. It held me down until I could release the mainsheet and the wind eased a bit. Three to four inches of water came in the cockpit and another three inches in the port locker, which I hadn't secured in case I needed to get to the anchor quickly. One of the Hobies turtled. The water didn't begin to drain from the cockpit until I got well under way, again. I now feel initiated. This was my first knockdown in 7 years of sailing an M15. It was as if there wasn't any ballast below. Believe me, it was no more than one or two seconds from the time I was upright unil I was over on my side. I should have known better and released the jib and main sheets once it became still and so quiet. The M15 is self-righting!!!! Good news, indeed. Sailing an M15 is lots of fun and safe to single-hand by smarter sailers than me. I'm gratefull to have installed lifelines. Can't wait to go sailings Soon! Rich Cottrell, "Really"

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Mast Raising
by Egatempo＠aol.com 19 May '03

19 May '03

Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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Singlehandling
by Egatempo＠aol.com 19 May '03

19 May '03

Has any one rigged a M17 for single handling, that is lead all lines to the cockpit? If so I sure would like to hear about how you did it. Main to starboard jib to port, blocks used layout, etc., any pictures would be great also as I am a visual communicator. I talk with my hands:-) George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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Re: M_Boats: knockdown
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 19 May '03

19 May '03

In a message dated 5/19/03 2:56:42 PM, rc2222(a)pacbell.net writes: >The M15 is self-righting!!!! Good news, indeed. Sailing an M15 is lots >of fun and safe to single-hand by smarter sailers than me. I'm gratefull >to have installed lifelines. Can't wait to go sailings Soon! Rich, I think what you describe could have happened to anybody, so no need for self-denigration. I have been following this knockdown thread with interest. I have to admit that I have probably been a little too complacent about such a possibility. There is something about the M15 that lulls you into thinking that it is a bigger, heavier boat. I have even tied off the tiller and gone below for a moment while under sail! Maybe an occasional start like you experienced would remind me that the boat is only a little heavier than a dinghy! I am wondering whether anyone has had a similar (knockdown) experience on an M17?? It would be interesting to know whether the increased sail area of the M17 is countered by the more than double displacement, as well as 14" more beam. Scott, M15 #478 'bebe'

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M-15 in Maryland Sold
by John Harris 19 May '03

19 May '03

Thanks to the many inquirers. My Montgomery 15, "Chimpanzee," has found a good owner here in Maryland. Now, on to the next set of adventures in my 1971 Marieholm International Folkboat... Cheers, John C. Harris

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 in Maryland Sold
by chbenneck＠juno.com 19 May '03

19 May '03

Hi John, Is that the copy of the original wooden Folkboat made in fiberglass? The Folkboats are great sailing ships. You'll have a ball - particularly when the wind pipes up - but it's no longer a trailerable vessel. Enjoy............ Connie

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Transom tales
by Bill Riker 18 May '03

18 May '03

Well, I bought Fulton motor mount WM#380321, and a Garelick transom ladder WM#283770, and have begun the installation process. I chose the Fulton model without the torsion springs because of the weight difference - over 4#. The motor is light and my back is still strong (knock on wood). So that's 4# less hanging off the stern. It's hard to believe the 4# of spring is only $10 - maybe there is an error in weight in the catalogs. I figured I would try to install using the "fish the backing plate into place" method, and if I ran into trouble, cut a seat-top hatch for access. I started to unscrew the original fixed mount, and, of course, the nuts just turned with the screw. Not having a kid handy, I thought I would try transom diving one time. I had my wife stand by with the screwdriver while I squirmed under the port cockpit seat. Surprise! I was able to get in, hold the nuts while she loosened the bolts, and, bigger surprise, squirm back out again! I'm not large, at 5'6", 160. But it was easier than I thought. What worked for me was to begin feet first from the port bunk, but aim my feet to Starboard, just behind the bunks. After popping my head in, I was lying abeam, feet to starboard, head to port, just behind the bunks. Then I leaned head first under the port cockpit seat, and slithered in with little trouble. I used some old corrugated along the forward cockpit bracing to help me slide by. While measuring and fitting, I ran in to the same problem Connie had with the release lever on the mount hitting the transom flare. I cut a piece of 5/8" plywood to fit between the motor mount and the transom, effectively moving the mount 5/8" farther astern, and think this will give me just enough room. Since there is plywood glassed into the area where the original mount was located, I don't plan to use a backing plate, just fender washers. I have made a 5/8" backing plate for the ladder, on the starboard side. I will still use stainless T-nuts for the ladder. When I was removing the motor mount I realized how little room there is between the outer transom and the hull liner. T-Nuts will make it easier, but at least I don't have to fish the rig in there now! I still have to epoxy the plywood pieces and install the equipment, but I have the fitting and measuring done. That probably took as much time as epoxying and mounting will. Can't be too careful. I don't want the rudder hitting either piece of hardware. Speaking of the rudder, I disassembled it for it's second varnishing since I bought Storm Petrel in 1998. The pivot hole on one of the cheek plates is elongated, vertically, to almost twice the size it should be. Has anyone else seen that? I think I will just reassemble it as is and next winter have my machinist brother cut new aluminum (or stainless?) cheek plates for both sides. I will keep you posted. Bill Riker M-15 #184 Storm Petrel

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