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Re: M_Boats: Seagull
by Harvey Wilson 22 May '03

22 May '03

Hi Connie... When I got my first Seagull in '98, I found Ron battiston's website and the Clymer pub...British Seagull. Not a pristine copy, but I bought it for a third of what they go for on E-bay nowadays <GG> I also got M.O. Marine's Seagull info...stuff from the Seagull service manuals and his own experience, and I have 5-6 Seagull owners, parts and service manuals...all garnered over the last 5 years. I'm somewhat of a Seagull collector nowadays.... fell in love with the ungainly beasts in '79 during a visit to Raritan marine in N.J. My first one was a Silver Century Plus (WSPCL '69). I mostly learned from it using the Clymer manual. Never had it on the boat, as it was late fall, we just moved close to the lake, and I needed to do work on Stargazer before putting her in the water. I found a 1992 Model 55 a month before putting the boat in the water and bought it. Sold the Silver Century to a fellow that _HAD_ to have it (even made me a good shipping box). He used it on a "period" 22 foot sail boat and went to the Bahamas with it. Almost 3 years ago, I found an EFNRL-90 (with F-N-R) and bought it reasonably. The owner had it "professionally serviced" but I found the problem to be a fuel float that was installed backwards and wouldn't let in enough fuel for sustained operation at half throtthe or more. It's the primary engine for Stargazer since I got it up and running. Bought a 1974 Featherweight from Battiston a few years ago. Neat, tiny (28 pounds) butno boat for it yet. Looks neat in my workshop, however<GG> Last month, I found a Kingfisher (1989) on E-bay, and got it for an excellent price. Low hours, and stored for most of it's life. Once I give it a thorough going over, it'll replace the EFNRL...and I'll sell it. 3 motors is enough!! Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Cruiser Challenge
by Doug King 22 May '03

22 May '03

I don't recall if this has been publicized, but the Cruiser Challenge this year is July 19-20 in Monterey Bay, CA. Info is on Judy Blumhorst's web site at http://blumhorst.com/potterpages/. Please keep us informed if you're planning to attend. I hope we'll be well-represented again this year. Doug ------------------------------------------ Doug King M-17 #404 "Vixen" Montgomery Sailboats Owners Group Web site: http://msog.org Email: mailto:msog@msog.org

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Re: M_Boats: Long distance towing
by Larry Yake 21 May '03

21 May '03

25 mph? You leave the straps on while you're sailing, Tom? Larry On Wed, 21 May 2003 20:22:32 -0700 "Jerry Montgomery" <jmbn(a)innercite.com> writes: > Come on, Tom. How can straps hum at 25 mph? > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith(a)itron.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:53 AM > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Long distance towing > > > > I use a wide nylon strap (2"?) and ratcheting buckle to secure my > M15 > while towing. I've cut a mountain bike inner tube in two lengths > and > slipped it over the strap. It seems like it protects the boat and > helps > keep the strap in place as well. I take a twist in the strap in the > span > over the cockpit to eliminate any vibration or humming. t > > > > Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle > > Sandpoint, Idaho > > M15-345, Chukar > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy Watkins [mailto:watkins@odpemail.tamu.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:16 PM > > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Long distance towing > > > > > > Jerry, > > You're correct on the straps chaffing the boat.You can wrap > the > strap with carpet or leather where it touches the finish and that > will help > protect it. > > > > Randy W. > > > > <<< jrduke1(a)dslextreme.com 5/17 8:00p >>> > > Hello, > > I wonder if it's advisable to tie the boat to the trailer when > towing > > long distances. If so , what is the best way. It seems that tie > down > > straps would chaff the gel coat. > > > > Regards, > > Jerry M17 333 > > -- > > JD > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > This message was scanned for viruses. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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RE: M_Boats: Long distance towing
by Smith, Tom 21 May '03

21 May '03

I use a wide nylon strap (2"?) and ratcheting buckle to secure my M15 while towing. I've cut a mountain bike inner tube in two lengths and slipped it over the strap. It seems like it protects the boat and helps keep the strap in place as well. I take a twist in the strap in the span over the cockpit to eliminate any vibration or humming. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Randy Watkins [mailto:watkins@odpemail.tamu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:16 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Long distance towing Jerry, You're correct on the straps chaffing the boat.You can wrap the strap with carpet or leather where it touches the finish and that will help protect it. Randy W. <<< jrduke1(a)dslextreme.com 5/17 8:00p >>> Hello, I wonder if it's advisable to tie the boat to the trailer when towing long distances. If so , what is the best way. It seems that tie down straps would chaff the gel coat. Regards, Jerry M17 333 -- JD _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses.

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Port O'conner trip
by wayne yeargain 21 May '03

21 May '03

Hi Randy Glad to see you'r back, how was your trip to Port O'conner. I got stuck at Palacious when I arrived at the Marina entranceI cut too close to marker 49 & my "depth gauge" found the bottom. Fortunately its soft mud & I was able to back off. Hope you had a smooth trip. Happy Sails Wayne

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The trip that won't start
by Saltm17＠aol.com 21 May '03

21 May '03

The trailer sailing trip around the country is having a hard time starting. Getting a new top and new paint job for Old Blue took exactly 3 weeks longer than anticipated. After a few other problems, the start date is now May 27. (the trip hasn't even started and I'm already two weeks behind). I still hope to meet some of you when the trip finally gets underway. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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Seagull
by Harvey Wilson 21 May '03

21 May '03

Hi Jerry... Zounds...another Seagull owner here?? Will wonders ever cease?? Most important is get the serial number for me..all the letters and numbers. And 25-1 is _the mix_ for the EFNRx-90 motors. Also 80-90 wt gear oil for the tranny gearbox. Yes, they've not been made for abour 8-10 years now, but parts are relatively easy to get, albeit by mail. Ron Battiston, in Vancouver, B.C. Canada sold me both of my small 'Gulls. He's bought the Seagull Shop in that city from the original distributor a few years ago and sells a few 'Gulls as well...all used models. There's also a Seagull restorer in Maine or close by..Frank Valentino, IIRC. Battiston refers to him on his website.. do a web search for Ron Battiston or British Seagull and you'll find his website. I also found another website with parts list...but no parts breakdown at www.britishseagulls.com/parts.html. He's fairly new, so I just d/loaded his parts/price list. Guess I'll visit him again. Finally, there's what's left of the original (?) in England at www.britishseagull.co.uk Also a very interesting one by another Brit who restores them at www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk I'd suggest that you get a parts manual, service manual and possibly an owners manual from them, as the others charge at least twice what they do...probably pay same price as you will, plus postage, plus duty (Canada), and a markup. Be glad to help in any way that I can. Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: Seagull
by chbenneck＠juno.com 21 May '03

21 May '03

Hi Harvey, As an old Seagull owner - many years ago - I was looking for Seagull information: Repair / Overhaul / Trouble shooting / and oil - gas mixture ratios. I found all I needed in my local library in a book. The title, as I dimly recall was "Outboard Repair" and there were two volumes. One for the small horsepower engines - 2 to about 20 HP, and the second was for the bigger boys. Go into your library catalog and see what you can find. Here in Connecticut all our libraries are interconnected so if my local Glastonbury library doesn't have the book I want, but Stamford Library does, I just fill out a request slip and in a few days I have the book from the Stamford Library. A great system! Connie

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Re Mast raising
by Egatempo＠aol.com 20 May '03

20 May '03

> I'm probably not the first person > to use this system, others may have different versions but this works for me. Wyane Thanks for the feed back. From your description it sounds as thou the mast is not very heavy, I am concerned with side sway. during the lift p.s. your e-mail address bounced/ George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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Re: M_Boats: Question for Wayne RE: Mast raising
by Egatempo＠aol.com 20 May '03

20 May '03

In a message dated 5/20/2003 8:45:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, haudsley(a)tranquility.net writes: > I use one modification to Wayne's system. Howard Sounds like a winner. Do you ever encounter side sway on the mast on the way up or down? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.

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