April 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Perimeter Trip Update 1
by Saltm17＠aol.com 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

I've been doing some work on the trailer to get it ready for the trip around the United States. It is the original trailer (Trailright) and, other than washing it down after launching and retreiving from salt water, it has suffered from benign neglect for 19 years. There was a deep rust spot on the tongue, and while trying to grind it off, it opened to a big hole. I had the tongue replaced and made 3 feet longer. The winch post was replaced and (after seeing it done on other M-sailboats) the top of the post was raised and the winch was re-located under it to avoid the cable cutting the rubber snubber on retreival.The rest of the trailer had a fair amount of rust but nothing deep and that is a testiment to the quality of the trailer made comepletely out of channel iron. To get it sandblasted would have cost $250, so I bought a Craftman grinder and went to work. After some dirty work grinding, I primed and painted the trailer completely. The leafsprings showed some flaking rust, and while the trailer shop said it wasn't extensive enough to be concerned about, the thought of trailering into Mexico on rusted springs had me worrying. The price per spring was only $28, so I am having them replaced, and since the fenders were deeply pitted and even rusted thru in some small areas, they will be replaced at the same time. All the wiring on the trailer was replaced, and since all the light problems I've encountered were associated with poor ground contacts on the trailer, I ran a dedicated ground wire to the lights. The wiring on the truck was definitely after market, and was the second most common trailer light proble. The circular connector was replaced with a flat four connecter - as was the trailer. Then came the part that I thought would be a big problem: the bearings. Although the bearings came with a bearing buddy system, and I religously keep them full, the bearings were never actually checked. After 19 years, and a lot of miles, I was wondering what we would find when my buddy showed me how to check them. Surprisingly, there wasn't a speck of rust or pitting on the bearings or the rear seals. We only had to replace the grease, repackthe bearings and re-install them. Both rear seals were damaged when we pushed them out, and we tried to replace them. I also wanted a spare set of bearings to take with me just in case. Finding the seals and bearings proved difficult. The bearing numbers could not be found in any cross check catalog, and the seals didn't have any number on them at all; in fact they were metal while all the newer models have a rubber outside ring. Finally a fellow at Car Zone took this on as a quest, and using the inside diameter and outside diameter measurments we had taken, finally came up not only with the bearings but the seal also. For those with an older M17 trailright trailer here are the part numbers: Smaller bearing Timken Set 14 Bearing: Timken # KL44643 71 Outer ring: Timken # KL44610 71 Larger bearing Timken Set 17 Bearing: Timken # L 68149 Outer ring : Timken # L68111 + Rear Seal NAPA 16667 Now it's time for work on the truck and the sailboat. It's only 6 weeks until the start and there's still lots to do, but I managed to do some sailing last weekend. It was a beautiful day, sunny and warm, with winds about 10K out of the southeast and Miss T sailed gracefully and fast. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372 1983

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M15 trailer-ready dimensions?
by Mike Frederick 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Could someone please tell me the length, width, and height of an M15 on its trailer with the mast secured and ready for towing? Thanks.

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Re: M_Boats: boat cradle
by Mark Pavuk 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

How about 4 strong friends? :) of course, they may not stay friends long if you asked this too often. Cherri ---------- >From: "Honshells" <chonshell(a)ia4u.net> >To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: M_Boats: boat cradle >Date: Tue, Apr 9, 2002, 8:20 PM > > >As a follow-up, I'd be very curious to know: Once one has built the cradle, >how would one with no lifting tackle transfer the boat from the trailer to >the cradle? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Pavuk" <mcpavuk(a)worldnet.att.net> >To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:42 AM >Subject: M_Boats: boat cradle > > >I am wondering if anyone has ever built a boat cradle for an M-15 to do >work on the hull and , if so, what the specs were on it. I need to do >bottom paint and would rather not have to pay a marina to lift it. > > Cherri > M-15 #322 Cherri's Jubilee > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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NorSea links
by Steve & Diana Parsons 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Bob, Sorry to hit this on the list, but I didn't have your address in any of my correspondence. I can not get to the second page of your M23 area. Not sure if it is my computer, or if you have a broken link. Steve

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Re: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats digest, Vol 1 #172 - 3 msgs
by Mark Pavuk 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Tod, What it looks like we are going to do is have a John Deere tractor lift the boat while we quickly paint the parts we haven't already painted. This sounds really scary but all the marinas are busy now and won't lift it and our garage is too full to fit the boat. I like your idea for the future, but we'll give the tractor a try. Friday's the day to do this, so I hope I have a boat left Saturday. Cherri ---------- >From: "htmills(a)bright.net" <htmills(a)bright.net> >To: ">Mboats<" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats digest, Vol 1 #172 - 3 msgs >Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 12:00 AM > >Ha! I should've read your post first, Shawn. > >Leave it to the British: a Junk Rig Association of all things! > >Sure would be nice if some of you Montgomery sailors could >take the time to write up some trip tales; I've read all the ones >on the web page. > >Cherri, > >Regarding the cradle: my own personal inclination (pun not intended) >would be to go with slings & blocking instead of a wooden cradle >because it allows some adjustment in the support location and if >oversized a bit is transferable to other boats such as the 17 :-) > >Tod > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats digest, Vol 1 #172 - 3 msgs
by daideo＠webtv.net 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

In regards to this post : It may be me, but I can`t read your email. The blue lettering comes out unclear. Any suggestions ? Or am I once again, `challeneged`. [i`ve got new glasses !] ~Terry~ " TRUCK PULLS: For those who don`t understand WWF

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boat cradle
by Mark Pavuk 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

I am wondering if anyone has ever built a boat cradle for an M-15 to do work on the hull and , if so, what the specs were on it. I need to do bottom paint and would rather not have to pay a marina to lift it. Cherri M-15 #322 Cherri's Jubilee

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15" Montgomery Boats
by Shirley Fleming 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Sent email to this address, but it did not go through. Checking to see if this one does. --

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New Sails for 15" Montgomery
by Shirley Fleming 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

I'm the owner of a "91 15' Montgomery that I bought new from Jerry Montgomery near Sacramento. I am now in the process of having to get new sails. Could anyone please answer the following questions: 1.Can you tell me the dimensions and sq ft of the mainsail and jib sail that came in 1991 or comes now as standard equipment on a new 15' Montgomery? 2. Can you tell me the jib sail size as expressed as a percentage, i.e., 100% or 80%, that came in 1991 or comes now as standard equipment on a new 15' Montgomery? 3. Can you explain and advise me on the following: the specifications for the 1991 and current new 15' Montgomery list the sq ft of sail areas as 122, yet when a sailmaker measured the actual sails that came with the boat, the sq ft comes to 102 (mainsail 62 sq ft and jib 40 sq ft). Sure appreciate any info you could give me on this, because I have a meeting with the sailmaker on Apr 15. In advance, thanks for your help. Harvey (Mike) and Shirley --

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Re: M_boats: Raise/Lower Sail
by Conbert H Benneck 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hi Steve: You do make life complicated. On my M15, the jib halyard leads to the cockpit. The main halyard is on the mast. So is my topping lift. I lie at a marina where my bow is pointed at the prevailing wind. The drill is: raise the jib, standing in the cockpit; and let the sheets fly free. Raise the main; standing on deck at the mast - main sheet is free. Release the topping lift. Push out of my marina slot,and turn LEPPO 90 degrees - heading north: which now puts me on a broad reach. Jump aboard; drop the center board; tighten the jib and main sheets and off I go on a broad reach......... Pretty as you please. After sailing for a few hours I have the luxury of having a marina berth that points into the prevailing wind. I can approach my berth on a broad reach; then turn 90 degrees; let everything fly, and arrive at my dock space without a bang - if I time it correctly. At that point I casually step on the finger pier; grab the shroud of the M15 and stop the boat. Then I fasten spring lines: bow and stern lines: and start tidying up the boat. Getting "bonked" by the boom doesn't happen. When the boat is in it's slip, it is head to wind - i.e., the boom isn't going anywhere. The main is flaked down with a bungee cord on the boom: the topping lift is tightened so that the boom is raised: the sail cover is put on the main; the main sheet is tied off so that the boom can't swing back and forth; I gather up my cooling container/ radio/ and clothing and depart. Raising the main while standing on the foredeck shouldn't be a problem, unless you are trying to do it in 30 knot winds. If that is the case, then it's better to head for a bar and tell sailor's stories, than to be out sailing. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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