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Re: Mandelbrot Hoax
by Harry Bissell Jr 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

LOL !!! Hey I saw those old parchaments with the Udo mandelbrot. But I could not get it to color cycle with Fractint. What am I doing wrong ? Is it a windows problem ?? Anybody have the .par files ??? <bfg> H^) harry (lurking again zzzzzzzzz........)

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FOTD 09-09-05 (08-09-05 [NA])
by Jim Muth 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

FOTD -- September 09, 2005 (Rating NONE) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image is a scene in the East Valley of the large midget on the main stem of the Z^2.00001+C Mandeloid. Because I put so little work into it, the image has been given no name and no rating. The render time of 4-1/2 minutes is well within reason. If this brief time is still unreasonable, the already-rendered GIF image is available on the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The philofractal version of today's discussion has far more meat than the Fractint version, which has been trimmed to include only the fractal stuff. Absolutely perfect weather here at Fractal Central on Thursday made the fractal cats very happy. Finishing the work at a reasonable hour made me very happy also. Happiness produces good fractals, so we'll see how tomorrow's fractal turns out. Until then, take care, and ask for answers. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= 09-09-05 { ; time=0:04:30.89--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotN passes=1 center-mag=-1.748488868027091/+0.00004664243680436\ /2.591476e+012/1/-82.5/0 params=2.00001/0/0/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 logmap=177 periodicity=10 mathtolerance=0.05/1 colors=000SJWPLWNNWLPWJSWHUWFWWDYWB`W9bW7eW1gW0jW0\ nW0rW1uW6wWBzWJzmPzsJxzDsz9kz4bz1Wz0Mz0Cs04j00U000\ W0Sz0zv0eS4L4S40v00p00m00g00e00`00Y00W00300F10U10j\ 30z41z7UzBS`4S11`09g0Lj0Jj0Jj0Jm0Jm0Jm0Jm0J`0DS09J\ 06B134610D00L0bSzYYmWb`SjSPpHLx7Jz1Wv3jm3ze4zY4Uj1\ 0x00z01z04z07z0Bz0Fz0Jz0Nz0Sz0Uz0Wz0Yz0`z0bv0em0ge\ 0jY0mS0pL0sF0v90x40z10z00S001000000000000000001006\ 00B40H90NF0UN0`U0g`0pj0xs0zz0zz0zz0zz0zz0xz0vz0sz0\ pz0mz1jz1gz3ez4bz6`z7Yz9WzBUzBSxBPpBNgBL`BJUBHNBFH\ DDBDB6D91D70D60D40D30DP0WpBsWSNFg1Db0DY0DW0DS0DN0D\ L0DH0DF0DB0D70D60D30D10g0Nz0zz0zz0zp0vg0jY0bS1UJ3N\ D6F6991D30H00L00N00B001710J40W90jDWzPWzbWzpWz0W00W\ BpWx7W00WxzWHzWSzWbsWpmWzzW30W00W00g01g63vJJzJbzJz\ zJzzJzzHezHNzF9zFSz00z00z00zB6zz1zm0zP1zN4zN7zN0z9\ 0z00z00zB0z70z40z30zNSzjszmzzmzzezzYzzSzzL0zD1zYPz\ xvzzszxszYszF7zPHzYHzmJzW } frm:MandelbrotN {; Jim Muth b=p1, z=p2, c=p3+pixel: z=z^(b)+c, |z| <= 16 } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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FOTD 08-09-05 (08-09-05 [NA])
by Jim Muth 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

FOTD -- September 08, 2005 (Rating NONE) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image resulted when I combined 3 parts of Z^(0.6) with 3 parts of Z^(-0.5) and added C. I rendered the image with the outside set to 'tdis' and the inside set to 'bof61'. Since I did almost no coloring work, I gave the image no name and no rating. The render time of under 8 minutes can be cut to a minute or so by downloading the completed GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The philosophy continues in the philofractal version of this discussion. Tuesday's weather was absolutely perfect here at Fractal Central, but the weather on Wednesday was even better. Needless to say, the cats were ecstatic. I was reasonably satisfied when I got the 2 jobs wrapped up. The next FOTD image, complete with philosophy, will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and live in hope, not in delusion. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= 08-09-05 { ; time=0:07:40.82--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-5.17111634253247700/+0.463144114885557\ 70/6167.77/1/-95/5.70566448254705705e-010 params=3/0.6/3/-0.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=bof61 outside=tdis periodicity=10 colors=000Yahaageaff_dgZbhY`iXZjWYkVWlUUmTSnSQoRPT\ `G7j78jA9kCAkFBlHCmKDmMEnPGtVFqTFnRElPEiN_jTgZXoN`\ wBcvA_u9Wt8Ts7Pr6Mq5Ip4Fo3Bo28m7DkCHiHMhMQfRVdWZb`\ caegU`hMWhERi7MiFRjNWkV`lbemjjnqnooklmijkghiefhcdf\ `adZ_bXY`VW_TUYQRWOPUMNSKLRIJTKHVMGWOEYQDZSB`UAbW9\ cY7e_6fa4hc3id2if5ig8ihBijDikGilJimMioOipRiqUirWjp\ VkoUlmUmlTnjSoiSogRpfQqdQrcPsaOt`OuZNuYNq_Nm`NiaNe\ bNacNYdNUeNQfNMgNIhNEiN2oP6lOAjNDhMHfMKdLObKR`KVZJ\ ZWIaUIeSHhQGlOGoMFsKEzB9xFCvIEtLHsOJqRLoUOmXQtdGpa\ Ml_SqbXn`Xk_XiYXfXXdVXaUX_SXXRXgJm`NdVQXPTPIWGCZ86\ a07`18_19_2AZ2BY3BY3CX4DX4EW4FV5FV5GU6HT6IT7JS7JS7\ SXA``DidGrhIqeHpcHp`GoZGnXFnUFmSElQElNDkLDnLEkJDhI\ CfHBcFAaE9ZD8WB7UA6R95R41Q63Q74P85PA7OB8OC9NEBNFCM\ GDMIFLJGLKHKMJKNKJOLENIGOKIOLJPMLPONQPOQQQRSSRT8hs\ J_fTRUZDF`FGaHHbJIcKJdMKeOKfQLgRMiTNjVOkXOlYPm_Qna\ RocSTVY`ZWhaUpdSMbkQajUai } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Albrecht, email me re DOS Fractint under Win98 if you wish.
by Hal Lane 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

################################################################# >Albrecht Niekamp wrote: > >> as I received no reply here is my question again as I am >> certain that some one of those DOS scientists knows the >> answer: >> Under WIN98 in the DOS/shell what can I do to keep image >> and text window from interfering ? > >Have you gone through the recommedations here: > >http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fracwin95.html > >Are you running Fractint full screen? Fractint doesn't play nice when >it is windowed. Try putting Fractint into a text mode before you change >windows using alt-tab. > >Did you try textsafe=bios? > >Try setting virtual=no in your sstools.ini file. > >Jonathan I use DOS Fractint under Win98. I put Fractint into text mode by hitting <tab> during the generation of an image if I want to window the Fractint session. (Yes, that does stop generation of the image.) I almost always use a 'Disk Video Mode' to calculate larger images because the "Disk Video In Progress" screen is a Text Mode screen which I can window by typing <alt><enter>. I do not type characters into the windowed DOS Fractint session. I make it full screen with <alt><enter> before typing characters into the program. I use textsafe=save in sstools.ini, but not virtual=n . I believe the effectiveness of these settings is more a function of your particular graphic card and driver than the operating system. I also turn off automatic monitor dimming while watching a fractal being calculated. Not doing this loses pixels on my vanilla Gateway system when the monitor dims. If you still have problems after using Jonathan's and my recommendations please drop me an email. I enjoyed your multi215a fractal. I note that most of its pixel's iterations fall approximately between 70 and 85 so it takes a color map that uses this fact to do justice to your image. - Hal Lane ######################### # hallane(a)earthlink.net # ######################### ################################################################# -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 9/6/05

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The carefully crafted Mandelbrot Monk hoax is worth reading.
by Hal Lane 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

################################################################## >You have GOT to see this, then wonder .... >http://www.raygirvan.co.uk/apoth/udo.htm > >An excerpt: > >In Salus, Udo describes how he used these numbers: "Each person's soul >undergoes trials through each of the threescore years and ten of allotted >life, [encompassing?] its own nature and diminished or elevated in stature >by others [it] encounters, wavering between good and evil until [it is] >either cast into outer darkness or drawn forever to God." > >When Schipke saw the translation, at once he saw it for what it was: an >allegorical description of the iterative process for calculating the >Mandelbrot. In mathematical terms, Udo's system was to start with a complex >number z, then iterate it up to 70 times by the rule z -> z*z + c, until z >either diverged or was caught in an orbit. [*4] ------------------------------------------- In addition to Lee Skinner's: >This has been proven to be a hoax. Udo, if he existed, never saw a >Mandelbrot set. >Lee ------------------------------------------- I additionally located at: http://spanky.fractint.org/www/whats-new.html "Ray Girvan raygirvan(a)freezone.co.uk has put together a well crafted hoax and released it as an April Fools joke called THE MANDELBROT MONK." ------------------------------------------- and also from www.museumofhoaxes.com: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2961/ "Also from Science Daily Udo of Aachen, fictional monk (1200-1270 CE). Udo is the creation of British technical writer Ray Girvan, who invented him for an April Fool's article in 1999. Mystic and poet whose work ostensibly was set to music by Carl Orff with the haunting O Fortuna in Carmina Burana - actually the work of itinerant goliards, found in the German Benedictine monastery of Beuron (Latin, Burana). The apocryphal Udo was also an illustrator and theologian, supposedly he discovered the Mandelbrot set, some 700 years before Benoit Mandelbrot (Benoit is French for Benedict). "Re-discovered" when the also-fictional Bob Schipke, a Harvard mathematician, saw a picture of the Mandelbrot set in an illumination for a 13th century carol." " ------------------------------------------- At: http://classes.yale.edu/fractals/ Michael Frame, Benoit Mandelbrot, and Nial Neger of Yale Univ. list "Mandelbrot Monk" as topic '3I' of their collection of notes on fractals, chaos and related topics -- but without calling it a hoax. I assume that they are relying on reader's discriminating minds to deduce that it is a hoax. (I.e. -- complex numbers, iteration and Cartesian coordinates did not exist in the 13th century, during the monk's supposed 'lifetime'.) ------------------------------------------- Also, in the Number 82, August 2001 NEWSLETTER OF THE NEW ZEALAND MATHEMATICAL SOCIETY: http://www.massey.ac.nz/~wwifs/mathnews/Nzms82/news82.htm#monk Garry J. Tee says: "Some mathematical websites have provided links to Ray Girvan's article; and it has been picked up by some e-mail news service, so that excited reports of it have been passed around the Internet. Alert readers of the article will notice several hints of its nature. The end of the article clinches the matter by its date: 1999 April the first. Ray Girvan has written his witty article very skillfully, reporting some genuine facts which are strange and little-known. The list of references cites many significant papers on mathematics and on medieval science. But the basic paper, by a retired Professor of Mathematics at Harvard, does not exist." ------------------------------------------- Despite all the debunking I offer, I still recommend that you read this highly original, very creative work describing the Mandelbrot set's creation -- in medieval language -- with scholarly references! This is how the article is signed: "Â© Ray Girvan (ray(a)raygirvan.co.uk) April 1st 1999." THE MANDELBROT MONK: http://www.raygirvan.co.uk/apoth/udo.htm - Hal Lane ######################### # hallane(a)earthlink.net # ######################### ################################################################## -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 9/6/05

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Re: Lee comment
by JackOfTradeZ 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Lee said: ""This has been proven to be a hoax. Udo, if he existed, never saw a Mandelbrot set."" I really HATE it when this happens! Oh well then, try this: If you understand that there is no such thing as chance, but only patterns we do not understand, you will cease to believe in phony religions, astrology, flying saucers, heroes and demons, good and evil (most of what we call evil is usually only ineptitude), ghosts, the infallibility of politicians and all the other coo-coo distractions from clear thinking. There is no chance. There is Chaos. And Chaos is Entropy Misunderstood. The world is not run by secret cabals, it is run by people who do not understand the systems within which they operate; and so they attempt to bend them to alternate purposes. But Chaos will have its way. Those rivers will find their true courses, no matter how many dams of bigotry, greed, hatred and frenzy are erected. Chance favors the prepared mind. Chaos works to your benefit. Know as much as you can. Understand and remember. Life has only one great lesson. It says to you Pay Attention. Whether in Chaos or Entropy, the more you know, the cleverer and more well-informed you are the easier it is to ride the tide of Chaos, to achieve The Secret. You're welcome. And you didn't even have to sign up for a seminar. Chaos is a highwayman, wild and free. Chaos is when a man walks ahead, but his soul lags behind. Whatever. Stay Amazed! JoTz

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FOTD 07-09-05 (07-09-05 [NA])
by Jim Muth 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

FOTD -- September 07, 2005 (Rating NA) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image is a scene in the fractal that results when Z^(0.06) and Z^2 are combined, and C is added. The bubbly effect was achieved by rendering the image with the outside set to 'fmod' and the proximity set to 0.5. Since almost all my energy went into the writing of the philofractal discussion, I gave the image no name other than the date. The render time of 2 minutes is fair enough. The pre-rendered GIF image will be available before long on the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Deep blue sky, puffy white clouds, gentle winds, low humidity, a temperature of 81F 27C -- all this combined to make the day absolutely perfect here at Fractal Central on Tuesday. The cats were so happy that they paused to give thanks to the great cat. For me, the day was on the slow side. Today promises to be the same. The next FOTD will be posted in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and look toward the light. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= 07-09-05 { ; time=0:02:09.12--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-2.78868307814481100/+0.206703675744196\ 10/4.78215e+009/1/-90/3.88578e-016 params=1/0.06/1\ /2/0/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=0 proximity=0.5 outside=fmod logmap=yes periodicity=10 colors=000vc3ub4ta4s`5r_5qZ5pY6oX6oW7nV7mU7lT8kS8j\ R8iQ9iQ9hPAgOAfNAeMBdLBcKBcJCbICaHD`GD_FDZEEYDEYDE\ bGDfJDkMDoPDwPCsRDpSElTEiUFeWFbXGZYGWZHSaIT_HUZHVY\ HWXHXWHXUHYTHZSH_RG`QGaPGaNGbMGcLGdKGeJGhGIfHHeIGc\ IGbJF`JF_KEZKDXLDWLCUMCTMBSNAQNAPO9NO9MP8KP8JQ7IQ6\ GR6FR5DS5CS4BT39T38U26U25V14V15U45U65U95TB6TD6TG6S\ I6SL7SN7RP7RS7RU8QW8QZ8Q`8Pc9Pe9Pg9Oj9Ol9OnISaRVPZ\ YC`ZBa_Bb`BdaBebBfcBhdBieBjfBlfBmgBnhBpiBqjBrkBtlB\ umBvnByo9xnAwnBvmBumCtlDtlDslErkFqkFpjGojHoiHniImi\ IlhJkhKkgKjgLifMhfMgfNfeOfeOedPddQccQbcRdfPbcRa`T`\ ZV_WWYUYXR_WP`VMbTKdSHeRFgQCiPAjL8eI7`F6WB4R83M52I\ 57J5BJ5FJ5JJ5NJ5RJ5VK5ZK5bK5fK5jK5nK5jR5fX5cc5_i4W\ q5Xo6Yn6Ym7Zl7_k8_j8`i9ah9afAbeAcdBccBdbCeaDe`Df_E\ gZEgXFhWFiVGiUGjTHkSHkRIlQDjKGkNIlPLlRNmTPmVSnXUoZ\ Wo`Zpb`pdbqferhgrjisllsnntpptrnrqlqpkooinnhlmfklei\ kchjpaFqaDraCraAsa8sa7ta5 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Fractal web site
by David Dollevoet 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

My fractal web page is updated for 2005-09. http://www.djd-fractal.com David Dollevoet

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Re: Amazing?
by JackOfTradeZ 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

You have GOT to see this, then wonder .... http://www.raygirvan.co.uk/apoth/udo.htm An excerpt: In Salus, Udo describes how he used these numbers: "Each person's soul undergoes trials through each of the threescore years and ten of allotted life, [encompassing?] its own nature and diminished or elevated in stature by others [it] encounters, wavering between good and evil until [it is] either cast into outer darkness or drawn forever to God." When Schipke saw the translation, at once he saw it for what it was: an allegorical description of the iterative process for calculating the Mandelbrot. In mathematical terms, Udo's system was to start with a complex number z, then iterate it up to 70 times by the rule z -> z*z + c, until z either diverged or was caught in an orbit. [*4] Stay Amazed! JoTz

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FOTD 06-09-05 (06-09-05 [NA])
by Jim Muth 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

FOTD -- September 06, 2005 (Rating NA) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The fractal part of today's FOTD is brief. All my energy went into the philosophical part, which appears in the philofractal version of this discussion. Today's image combines Z^(0.065) with Z^2 and adds C. Since I did almost no extra work on the image, I gave it neither a name nor a rating. The render time of 6 minutes is a bit slow, but the already-rendered GIF image may be picked up from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The absolutely perfect weather continued on Monday here at Fractal Central, as did the perfect behavior of the fractal cats. Today is stating perfect. The cats will likely have another perfect day. My day will be somewhat busy, but nothing that I cannot finish in a few hours. The next FOTD will appear in 24 hours. Until then, take care and take hope. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= 06-09-05 { ; time=0:04:20.91--SF5 on a P200 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-1.85383322516782500/+0.549316619250768\ 70/1.993234e+007 params=1/0.065/1/2/0/0 float=y maxiter=1000 inside=0 periodicity=10 colors=000iNQgIPgFNfBLd8Kd4Ib0G`0F`0D_0B_09t00z00z\ 04w0Dp0Li0V_0bS0jK0sB0z60z20z08z0Gv0Qp0_j0gd0pY0yS\ 0zL6zVLzd`zmnzv_pwbsydtygvyiwzkyzmzznzzqzzszzvzzwz\ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzqzzfzzbzv`zs_znXzkVzgUzbQz_PzVNzSLv\ _SqgYmnditidzn_ztVzzQzzVzy_ztdzpizjkzfpz`tzVyzQzz0\ zzLkzqVyzQnzNdzDYvKVsPSpUPmYLjdKgiGdmD`q9Yw8Vz4Sz0\ Pz0Lz0Kz0Iz0Gz0Fz0Dw0Bt09q08n06j04g02d00`00X00U00Q\ 00N00S00X00`46f69j8FmBIqDNvFQzIVzKYzGfzL`zQYvVVp_S\ jdPdiLYmISqFLtBUpI_mPgjVmg`tdgz`msYimVdgS``PXULSNI\ PGFK9BGKPPS`V`mbiyiszypznnzfmzVkzLjz9zz0iz0Is20k6D\ yjXzzX0zQ0yK0wF0v82t04s00z06q08p09n0Bm2Bk4Dk6Fj8Fi\ 9GgBIfDKfFKdGLbIN`IN`FXYBfV8nS4wP0zL0zI2zF8zDDzBGz\ 9Lz8Qz6Uz4Yz2bw0fv0jt0ns0qp0vn0zm0zk0ym0vm0sm0nn4k\ n8inBdpG`pKYpNUqQQqUNqXIvbKq_LmXLiUNdSN_PPVLPQKQLG\ SGDSB9U68U04V00S00V00X02_06`29d6Ff9IiFLjIPkLSpPXsQ\ `vSfyUjzVnzXszYwz_zz`zzbz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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