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Re: [Fractint] Fractint on XP
by Jim Muth 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

At 10:07 AM 10/11/02 +0200, Mike Weitzel wrote: >Hi, > >The chapter about DOS in computer history is about to be finished. <details snipped> I would say the DOS era ended a number of years ago. We all realize that Fractint is limited because of its dependence on an obsolete OS. The problem is that no one has volunteered to accomplish the monumental task of updating the program to a modern OS. Jim M.

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 10-10-02 (Inside Fantasy [8])
by Jim Muth 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

At 06:12 PM 10/10/02 +0100, John Lewis wrote: >Let me see. There is Glenmorangie, McAllan, Famous Grouse and that's >only a tiny percentage of the Scotch spirits.... As I wrote, my opinion depends on the definition of 'spirit'. Jim M.

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FOTD 10-10-02 (Inside Fantasy [8])
by Jim Muth 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

FOTD -- October 10, 2002 (Rating 8) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Do human beings have spirits? The religious say yes, scientists say they have found no evidence, skeptics say probably not, Atheists say no. I say it depends on the definition of the word 'spirit'. But one thing certain is that some fractals, (those with negative powers of Z), do have spirits, and those spirits remain behind when the original fractal evaporates. As the mention of spirits and the outrageous value of imag(p3) should have made apparent, today's FOTD is another of my 'evaporated' fractals. (To see the unevaporated version, change imag(p3) to 0.) There are no escaping points at all in the image, which consists entirely of trapped inside points made visible by the inside fill of bof61. I used an inside fill of bof61 in today's image because that fill works best with this particular image. I have found no way to predict which inside fill will work best with particular evaporated fractals. The best fill must be found by trial and error. The parent fractal consists of a Mandeloid shaped like a bloated queen termite, with an immense area of chaos to its east. This chaotic area contains regions where the chaos becomes lace-like and converges in nodes. Today's scene lies near one of the most prominent nodes. The actual node of course has long since evap- orated from the world of fractal reality. Since the image is something relatively unique, I rated it at an 8, which is a great improvement over yesterday's miserable 4. I named it "Inside Fantasy" as a description. Considering the much-above-average worth of the finished product, the render time of 6 minutes is reasonable. And as always, the finished GIF image is available for near-instant download on Paul's web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and on Scott's site at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The Wednesday weather here at Fractal Central was of the dull, dreary variety. The lack of sun, temperature of 61F 16C, occasional spits of rain, and the wrong flavor cat food left the fractal cats very testy. In the evening, Tippy defiantly en- sconced himself in my favorite chair, and dared me to try to dislodge him. Tippy won the battle. My next battle will be won when I finish the work now before me. But to finish I must first start, so until tomorrow, when an even better fractal might appear, take care, and prepare for the war against obese fractals. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Inside_Fantasy { ; time=0:06:19.59--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=+28.82416328698804000/+6.04584636251811\ 200/39588.41 params=1/-0.9/0.4/-2.6/0/1e+100 float=y maxiter=1600 inside=bof61 periodicity=10 colors=000Nz0Pz0Fz2Pz0Xy0ek0sb0m`0iZ0dZ0`X0VV2QV6L\ S9HQFBQJ8PN2NS0NX0L`0He0Ld0Nb0P`0QZ0VX0XV2ZS6`Q8bP\ 9eNDgLFiJHkHLqBJmFHiHHeJFbNF`PDXQDSVBPX9LZ9Jb8Fd8B\ e68g66k42m20o20s00u00w00z00z00z00z00z40y60w90sB0qF\ 0mJ0iL0gP0dQ0bV0ZZ0V`0Sd0Pe0Ni0Jo0Dk0Hi0Jg0Ld0Nb0P\ `0QX0SV2VS4XP6ZN8`L9bHBdFDeDFg9Hi8Jk6Lm2No0Pq0Qs0S\ u0Vw0Xy0Zz0`z0bz0dz0ez0gz0hz0dz0_s0Sd0NV0HJ0B80600\ 000400B26L8FSFP`LSXJZVHdQDgNBmJ8qF6wB4z80z40z00z00\ z00z00zB0yX6moDXz`Hzu2zz0zz0zz0zz0zy0zu0zq0zm0zi0z\ e0zb0zZ0zV0zQ0oL0dH0SB0H80640000000000000000200B00\ L04V09d0Fm0Lw0Qz0Xz0Vz0Sz0Sz0Qz0Qz0Pz0Pz0Nz0Nz0Ly0\ Lw0Ju0Js0Hq0Ho0Fo0Fm0Dk0Di0Bg0Be09d09d0Bb0B`0D`0DZ\ 2FX9FXHHVPHSXJSdJQkJQsPXZV`F`e0ei0dg0de0dd0db0d`0d\ Z0dX0dV0dS0dQ0dP0dN0dL0dJ0ZF0VB0P9FL6VF2iB0y86u69q\ 4Do2Jk0Ni0Qe0Vb0``0dX0gV0kQ0qP0uL0yH0zF0zB0z90z60z\ 40z20z00w00o08i0Hz0Jz0Lz0 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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FOTD 09-10-02 (Floating Garden [4])
by Jim Muth 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

FOTD -- October 09, 2002 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Despite the ridiculous media attention the local area is getting due to the sniper roaming the vicinity, the fractals continue without interruption. (And why are six shootings in a week so newsworthy when we have had 23 shootings in the area on a single week-end, which have received less news coverage?) Before I get side-tracked into social commentary, let's get to the fractals. The name of today's fractal, "Floating Garden", appears rather Japanese, but the image has little in it that could be connected to the orient. It's actually a scene in the fractal created by adding Z^(3) and 3Z^(0.1), then adding C and iterating with the bailout radius set at an unusually low value of 5. (The low bailout makes very little difference.) The resulting fractal appears as a shattered Mandeloid with its main stem pointing north and its East Valley totally broken up. Today's scene is located at the tip of a filament attached to a bud in a spurious valley that lies in the area where East Valley of the parent fractal would normally be located. When rendered in the usual manner, with the outside set to <iter> and the inside set to zero, today's image rates only a 4. With the departures from the normal rendering methods which I used in today's image, it still rates only a 4. When I found the scene, I felt it had a 6 or 7 rated fractal in it. But regardless of what I tried, the stubborn scene just would not improve. I finally settled on the inside fill of bof60, with the outside decorated by the decomp option, which is a feature I have almost never used since I first tried it and quickly grew bored with its effect of curved, shiny metallic surfaces. The name "Floating Garden" was inspired by the curved bits and pieces that appear to be floating in front of a background of infinite space. The visual effect unfortunately does not live up to the above description of the image. The render time of 10 minutes from the parameter file is a bit too much for such a mediocre image. A download of the completed image file is a far more efficient way of seeing the garden. The download may be found at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> On Tuesday the fractal cats enjoyed the sun, but the temperature in the 50's F, low teens C, was a bit too chilly for their sensitive ears and noses. They spent only 1/2 hour in the yard. Later in the evening, Tippy defiantly grabbed my favorite chair and told me to not even think of moving him. Today it's once again chilly, and with less sun than yesterday, the duo will likely once again be testy. As for me, when undone work lies before me, I'm always testy, so I'd best get started on that undone work. Until tomorrow, take care, and be happy when your work is finished. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Floating_Garden { ; time=0:10:37.03--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-2.807566740273493/-0.1738367456111298/\ 4.930755e+007/1/65/1.14187415046346219e-005 params=1/3/3/0.1/0/-95 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=bof60 decomp=256 periodicity=10 colors=000bANbARb9Vb9_b9cb9hb9ld7r000`AoZBnXCmWDlU\ EjSFiQGhOHgNIfLJdJKcHLbFMaEN`DOaDPbCPcCQdBQeBRfARf\ ASg9Sh9Ti8Tj8Uk7Uk7Vl6Wm6Wn5Xo5Xp4Yq4Yq3Zr3Zs2_t2_\ u1`v1`v3Zs4Xp5Vm6Tj7Rh8Pe9NbAL_BJYCHVDFSEDP79RFBNM\ DKUFG`HDhJ9oL6vN3sP6pQ8mRAjSDgTFdUHaVKZWMWXOTYQSXS\ SXTSWVSWWSVYSVZSV_SUaSUbRTdRTeRSgRShRSiRRkRRlRQnRQ\ oSOrRQpRRnRSlRUjRViRWgRYeRZcR_aRa`RbZRcXReVRfTQgSQ\ hQQjOQkMQlKQnJQoHQpFQrDQsBQtAQv8Qw6Qx4Qy3Sx4Tw5Uw6\ Vv7Wv7Yu8Zt9_tA`sAasBbrCdqDeqEfpEgpFhoGjnHknHlmImm\ JnlKolKnlLnlMnlMnlNnlOnlOmlPmlQmlQmlRmlSmlSllTllUl\ lUllVllWllWijXfhXcfX`dXYbXW`XTZXQXXNVXKTXHRXFQXERV\ ERUDRSDRRCRPCROBRMBRLARJARI9RG9RF7RF9REBREDQDEPDGO\ DIMCKLCLKCNJBPIBQHBSJCTKDULEVMFWNGXOHYPHZQI_RJ`SKa\ TLbUMbVKcWMcVNcUOcTPcSQcRRcQScPTcOUcNVcMWdMYdLZdK_\ dJ`dIadHbdGcdFddEedDfdCgdChcEfbGebIcaKbaMa`O__QZ_S\ YZUWZWVbA5cB0bA5bA9bAEbAI } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint on XP
by BillatNY＠aol.com 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Tony, Thanks for this info. Running in a DOS box is what I did. I need to get myself a floppy drive (don't ask) and then I'll do as you suggest. Your help is really appreciated! Bill

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FOTD 08-10-02 (Fractal Vines [5])
by Jim Muth 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

FOTD -- October 08, 2002 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's quickly-found fractal is a simple thing. With the MandelbrotBC1 formula I calculated the Z^(3.01)+C Mandeloid and examined the area of the negative X-axis where the western 'Seahorse' valley is beginning to split. I really had no need for the M-BC1 formula, since I could have done the same thing with Fractint's built-in manzpower formula. The resulting figure would not have been exactly the same, but the character- istics of the midgets in the area would have been similar. As I studied the image, I fancied myself looking down through a jungle of fractal material, toward a cubic midget on the forest floor. I considered naming the image "Fractal Jungle", but the name seemed so obvious that I finally decided on "Fractal Vines". And the name is not too far off the mark. The tangles and loops do resemble vines hanging from trees. Unfortunately, the end result is once again only of average fractal quality, and I could rate it no higher than a 5. While working with fractals, I like to consider the outside parts as material and the inside as empty space, which is why I usually color the inside parts of my fractals a dead black. This viewpoint has become my basic fractal world-view. Surpris- ingly, such a view is not too far removed from what is commonly known as the 'real' world-view, in which a vast empty space is seen as filled with tiny islands of material known as stars, planets, etc., all of which, for convenience, is granted an attribute known as objective reality. And the more one studies the current theories of physics, such as super-strings and super- symmetry, the more one realizes that the 'real' world appears to be made of numbers. Why, I wonder, can't the world of fractals also be considered 'real'. It also is made of numbers; it has its empty spaces and its clumps of 'material'. As the 'real' world needs the human senses to make itself manifest, the fractal world needs compu- ters to make itself manifest. Are the two worlds as different as they seem? Would it truly be so surprising if, when the much publicized 'theory of everything' is finally found, (if it is ever found), it turns out to be a fractal? If all this speculation seems confusing, relief may be found in 5 minutes by rendering the parameter file and watching the festooned vines come into existence, remembering of course that they are vines only because I have declared them to be vines. A quicker, simpler method of viewing the image is to visit Paul's web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and download the completed GIF image from there. On Monday, Scott's site got its script signals crossed, but I assume his site is up and running today at: <http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/index.html> The image may also be downloaded from there. Except for a brief period of cloudiness in the afternoon, the fractal weather Monday here at Fractal Central was ideal. The fractal duo would rather have had more sun, but the temperature of 77F 25C was good enough to keep them in a good humor. Today promises to be a near-perfect repeat, so the dynamic duo should stay happy most all day. My own happiness will come when I finish a bit of work that seems to always appear when I expect a slow day. Until 24 hours or so from now, take care, and think for yourself. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Fractal_Vines { ; time=0:05:12.42--SF5 on a P200 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC1 function=floor passes=1 center-mag=-0.39266886419176980/-0.005167114994956\ 72/8354133 params=3.01/0/0/0 float=y maxiter=2700 inside=0 logmap=152 periodicity=10 colors=0007KE3M98QECUJHYOL`TQdYUhbXokYkgYhdZeaZbZ_\ _V_XS`UP`RMaOJaLFbICbF9cC6e60c93bC5aF8_IAZLCYOFXRH\ VUKSVMT_OSbRQeTPhWOkYNn_KmXImUFmSDmP1kXBmNLoDVp3Ud\ FTTQSH`S6kU9iWChXFgZIf_LeaOdbRcdUbfXag_`ib_jeZlhYm\ lXonWpsVZihIbuETmBKf7A_41T8CXCN`GXdKghMvrNqlOmfPia\ PeWQaQRYLSUFVP9SQAQQANRALRAIRAGSBDSBBTB8RB4U86TB8T\ DASGCSIESKGRNIRPQZDKRREHgFJdFKbFL`FMZFNXFPUFQSFRQF\ SOFTMFUKGXJGZJH`IHbIIdHIfHKkGIhHGeHEbHC_HAXH8UH7RH\ BVHFYHIaHMdHQhHTkHXoH_rHVaUQMeK5sL6qM6oN6nO7lP7kQ7\ iR7gS8fT8dU8cV8a7MB3LBTb`YchbdrYT`THKO63RC4TH4VM4Y\ S4_X4aa5dg5fl5hq5jv5gt6ds7aq8Zp9Xo9UmARlBOjCLiDJhD\ GfEDeFAcG7bH5aH6_I7YI8WJ9UJATKBRKCPLDNLEMMFKMGINHG\ NHFNKLKMRIOXFQbDShAUn8Wt5Yy3Uz8QzCNzGJzLFzPCzT8zY4\ za1zeLzfdzgwzgwz`wzVwzPtzNrzMpzLmzKkzJizHgzGdzFbzE\ `zDXzDZzC`zCbzCdzCfzBhzBjzBlzBnzApzArzAtzAvzAozQhz\ dfzyazsYzmTzgPzaKzWGzQBzK } frm:MandelbrotBC1 { ; by several Fractint users e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*fn1(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<a } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Fractint on XP
by Anna Baron 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

I suppose there's no chance fractint could be made to run on XP (nt file system)? Am I really and truly stuck with having to repartition and to dual-boot into Win98/DOS in order to keep fractint? It seems so, as I've been trying hard enough to make it run on my newly purchased machine running xp but it refuses to do so with reports of missing fractint.cfg. I guess no one has a trick up his sleeve that would save me the trouble of wiping off my new system? Cheers, Anna. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint on XP
by BillatNY＠aol.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Anna, I have the same video card as you. I tried various things that folks on this lost suggested to me. I have Fractint working on XP, but I can only get 640 x 480 resolution. I will forward to you the emails with the suggestions. Bill http://members.aol.com/billatny/ http://www.arts4u.org/rossi/

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Monday's FOTD
by Scott D. Boyd 07 Oct '02

07 Oct '02

I discovered a few minutes ago that, for some unknown reason, my script that takes care of the FOTD didn't pass the correct parameters to Xfractint. So consequently, the image wasn't generated. If you are one of those that would rather view the FOTD on the Web, it's now correctly posted to my Website: http://sdboyd.dyndns.org/~sdboyd/fotd/1002-fotd/fotd1007.html Later all, Scott -- sdboyd56(a)swbell.net http://sdboyd.dyndns.org --------------------------------------- No Microsoft or other proprietary products were used in the creation of this email.

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint on XP
by nick.grasso＠hrads.com 07 Oct '02

07 Oct '02

Anna Baron wrote: > I suppose there's no chance fractint could be made to run on XP I have tried to get Fractint to run on several different NT and XP systems with various video cards; all with no luck. I would suggest trying Virtual PC 5.0 (http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc5w.html) This program allows you to run different operating systems (DOS, OS/2, etc.) on top of Windows. It works by virtualizing all the hardware (e.g., it emulates an S3 video card). This product gets good reviews. Some people successfully use it to run DOS games on NT/XP, so it should work with Fractint. Although it is $200, you can download a fully functional free trial. I am going to upgrade from NT to XP in a month or two (I'm waiting on a new slide scanner). After I upgrade, I'm going to try Virtual PC. It would be worth $200 to me to be able to run Fractint, my old DOS programs, and my old OS/2 programs. Of course, I'll report my experience here. Nick

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