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Re: cd maps
by Richard Gardner 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

On 21/4/04 1:49 pm, "zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com" <zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > tracking down the people who did the printing - fireproof press (sorry - i > no longer have any contact info) - led us to the people who manufacture > the cardbord 'gatefold' sleeves. > They also did the great covers for some of Steve Albini¹s CDs. Traditional presses (none of your offset litho for them!) Richard

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

> What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a masterpiece. And if you consider the other albums sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. > Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are integrated is unique and mindblowing. > Trey's use of beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can think of. > He has achieved to create in the studio a sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop recording techniques. > These are aesthetic choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't wait for the new shit to come out. There's not much wrong with it in my opinion, it is definitely my favorite SC3 album so far. I do not agree, though, that it is masterpiece. I think Trey has a masterpiece up his sleeve somewhere, that's why I use the term "unrealized potential" when discussing the SC3. Where I certainly do not agree with you is in his "inventive use of beats". In fact, I think Trey's use of beats is about the weakest aspect of the entire SC3 project. Not because I don't like beats - I have been an avid follower of drum'n'bass for years and have dozens of drum'n'bass 12"-es myself. But just because I've heard this beat stuff done so much better, I think Trey's use of it is misguided. He has improved, though, because I can barely stand to listen to the Atari Teenage Riot influenced beat-oriented stuff he did on earlier albums, as in "Jabalqa" and "Jabarsa" (and so can Trey himself, methinks, as he has been fulminating against ATR for quite some time now...). I always thought DJ Cheb I Sabbah did a great job in mixing beats with oriental and Indian influences... I also have mixed feelings about Trey's use of source materials sometimes. I love to find out about semi-obscure artists as much as the next person, but sometimes I feel that Trey is using just a bit too much of other people's material. Looking at the "Book M" album alone, no less than 3 tracks are covers: "Siege Perilous" is an interpretation of a medieval Saltarello; "Blaze of the Grail" is a cover of RD Burman's main theme for the movie "Shalimar", and "Safina" is a cover of a song from one of the Ethiopiques albums (which, incidentally, is also covered by The Daktaris on their "Soul Explosion" album, where it is called "Musicawa Silt"). I hear definite traces of a Rafic Hoebeika track which is on the "Belly Dance Vol.2" compilation (VLD519) in "Combat for the Angel". And I bet you there are ideas gained from other world music in some of the other tracks, too. I think his choice of source material is impeccable, and there are very good reasons why he chooses particular tracks (cf. the cover of the "Exodus" theme by Ernest Gold on the new album refers directly back to the "The Red Sea Is Your Blood" theme which ran through the second SC3 album...). That said, I love what he is doing, and I definitely think the new album is going to blow everything out of the water. We'll know in a couple of weeks time...! Frankco

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by Efrén del Valle 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

--- Jorge Gallegos <abductor77(a)yahoo.com> escribiÃ³: > What's wrong with Book M? In my book, Book M is a > masterpiece. Well, certainly not in mine. It's just a matter of personal appreciations. And if you consider the other albums > sketches, man, they sure are a hell of a sketchbook. I didn't make myself clear here. I meant that, although I like them, I suspect that there's a lot of potential that could explode in forthcoming works. That would be closer to my impression. > Sure, there's always room for more, but the ways in > which Eastern and Western sounds and aesthetics are > integrated is unique and mindblowing. 100% agreed. Trey's use of > beats is one of the few cases were I can tolerate > them and the furthest away from "cheesiness" I can > think of. Really? I can't see any distinctiveness or a special good taste in Spruance's treatment of electronic beats, to be honest. I'm don't really listen to breakbeats or drum'n'bass or things like that at home, but if you asked me I wouldn't point you to "Book M" as an example of electronics virtuosity, although I respect Spruance's work a lot and I always keep an eye on his projects. He has achieved to create in the studio a > sound that incorporates Bollywood and Middle Eastern > pop recording techniques. These are aesthetic > choices and not due to financial limitations. Can't > wait for the new shit to come out. Neither do I. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, mÃ¡s protecciÃ³n contra el spam Â¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es

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Miles Box Sets Re-releases?
by Pierre Toussaint 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I read somewhere and not to long ago that they are re-releasing the box sets in cheaper boxes (without metal hinges for example) but everything will be there (the music and the booklets). --------------------------------- LÃ¨che-vitrine ou lÃ¨che-Ã©cran ? Yahoo! Magasinage.

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Zorn covers??
by Gullasch Baronen 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Hi there. Who's in charge of the Zorn covers project? I might want to contribute. Who do I contact?? Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://www.msn.dk/messenger

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Miles Box Sets Re-releases?
by Zachary Steiner 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I see quite a few Miles boxes are being released (again?) in May. Among these are the Gil Evans box, the quintet, Bitches Brew sessions, and In a Silent Way. I thought these were already available. Am I wrong? What's Sony up to? Zach

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amplify festival - berlin/cologne
by Kurt Gottschalk 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

wisht i could be there. those anywhere near germany, check <http://erstwhilerecords.com/live/amplify2004.asp> and go to the show. kg np: diamonji - improg _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/

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Re: cd maps
by skip heller 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

i'd love to know this myself. skip h on 4/20/04 12:16 PM, kev booyaka at ahairyscreaming(a)yahoo.com wrote: hey all! i'm about to release my 2nd record and i'm loooking for a place where i can order large quantums of cd-pockets - pardon my english...i don't know the proper word for it but i'm aiming at those single fold-pockets which the Wire release their exclusive compilation CDz. those cardboard-pockets must have nothing on them... cuz i'll do the rest manually. only gonna release about 50 copys through my own record-company (WIP). can anybody help me with this? -k PS! not finished yet, but i have a website up - please visit www.wiprecords.org <http://www.wiprecords.org> Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ <http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=23765/*http://photos.yahoo. com/ph/print_splash> _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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FREE NYC concert by Doctor Nerve and Sirius String Quartet!
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

May 4th - Doctor Nerve and Sirius String Quartet perform EREIA at Rockefeller University, NYC. This is a FREE CONCERT, but tickets are required. For more info and tickets go to: <A HREF="http://www.rockefeller.edu/events/ereia/"> http://www.rockefeller.edu/events/ereia/</A> Steve

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RE: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

> None of that matters if the music isn't very good. Heretofore, I've been > able to bear with the esoteric mystical, numerology jazz, but it seems that > it is reaching a new level of ridiculousness. My hope is that it does not > overshadow the music. I'm a firm believer that the aesthetics of a band > should be an outgrowth of the bands music, not vice versa; form follows > function applied to music, if you will. I agree. But in the case of SC3, I think the two have become largely inseparable. Trey wants the esoteric background to be carried forward by the music. I have heard that even on "Book M" he deliberately wrote some parts in 19/8 to get the number 19 in... I see some resemblance with a band like Coil, where the esoteric background cannot be separated from the music either (even though Coil and SC3 walk distinctly different musical paths...). In my opinion, SC3 has a lot of unrealized potential that has not fully materialized on any of the first three albums (even though "Book M" came pretty close). I can only hope that Trey succeeds in getting his wonderful ideas realized to the extent which his speaking about it promises. In a month's time, we will be able to judge for ourselves whether or not he has succeeded. Frankco

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