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Bookshelf soundtrack
by Nick Utrie 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

Just an idea, I'm sure some of us have done. I recommend recording just the soundtrack of Bookshelf.. to tape and listening to it without the video, a visa versa. It has brought out some interesting points. Little sound things I miss on my TV. And the perceived contexts of certain comments. Does anyone have any other movies that they have enjoyed this way? (besides cartoons, for the music) nick

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Re: why "bookshelf" is a piece of shit (and other thoughts)
by zsteiner＠butler.edu 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

Worse than that were the hackneyed montages of New York. How many times have we those? If I want to see montages of New York, I'll watch a Spike Lee or Woody Allen film. Also, the "abstract" montages with the file cards were annoying and confusing. I didn't know why they were there. So maybe, the director wasn't the best speaker for the candids, but those were two grave directorial missteps. Her choice of music and footage were very good, however. Saved the movie for me. Zorn could be nothing be a huge nerd. He helps others embrace their inner nerd. > Now, for the poo poo - > > I hated the director. I wanted to slap her. She was irritating, > creepy, and > made the whole thing feel so contrived. I also hated - HATED - the > staged/re-enacted crap and the fake voiceover work that filled the > film. It > was all supposed to sound "candid," but just sounded incredibly > fake and > unconvincing. The worst was when Zorn "woke her up early in the > moning" with a > phone call, when it was obvious that the entire thing was staged > and created > using voicovers and editing in later footage of Zorn on the phone > with someone > else. Yuck! > > andrew > > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the > webpage below > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list >

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why "bookshelf" is a piece of shit (and other thoughts)
by ahorton 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

We got to see it this weekend courtesy of Netflix.... As a film, I hated it. As footage of Zorn, who I've never seen live or even video of, it was worth it for the raw footage alone. I never imagined that Zorn would be this sort of cranky-yet-amiable NERD. I love that! I always imaged that Zorn would be a sort of somber blowhard, along the lines of Alan Licht - but instead, he's this big, enthusiastic, loveable nerd. Seeing the gamepieces in action explains so much, and I'll probably always hear the Cobras and Xu Feng and etc. with a new appreciation and understanding. I also loved that song that played throughout the film - it sounded like something from "The Gift" with twanging Ribot guitar and Baptista percussion, but then had Zorn playing straight sax over it. Anyone know what that was? Now, for the poo poo - I hated the director. I wanted to slap her. She was irritating, creepy, and made the whole thing feel so contrived. I also hated - HATED - the staged/re-enacted crap and the fake voiceover work that filled the film. It was all supposed to sound "candid," but just sounded incredibly fake and unconvincing. The worst was when Zorn "woke her up early in the moning" with a phone call, when it was obvious that the entire thing was staged and created using voicovers and editing in later footage of Zorn on the phone with someone else. Yuck! andrew

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Re: Stories about Zorn
by Kurt Gottschalk 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

like steve smith said earlier, i respected the way claudia finished a job that could easily have been left hanging. how many people might have thrown in the towel and had a half-finished film sitting in their closet for years? zorn told her she had to make the movie her own, and she did. documentarians have to work with what they're given. i interviewed cecil taylor not long ago and he didn't give me a chance to ask a question for 90 minutes. he walked circles around the room, talking about richard nixon and duke ellington and frank gehry and ivie anderson. so the story i wrote <http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=1250> wasn't so much about cecil's history and views, but i think it gave a feeling of the man. zorn cut me off as well, after a couple of months of planning and discussing an interview. what did i do? i put myself in the story. <http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=1250>. sometimes there's little choice. and while i'm linking myself all over the place, my interview with claudia is here: <http://www.squidsear.com/cgi-bin/news/newsView.cgi?newsID=253> cheers kg np: paul dunmall octet - the great divide _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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FW: Stories about Zorn
by Nick Utrie 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

With all this debate I wonder if anybody else feels that the whole thing is just a little disingenuous I agree on this point it does 'feel' this way. but Here's what Oscar says about what a documentary is. I. DEFINITION 1. An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction. 2. A film that is primarily a promotional film, a purely technical instructional film or an essentially unfiltered record of a performance will not be considered eligible for consideration for the Documentary awards. Bookshelf is a documentary. She is creating a sense.. I also would like to read others stories too. Mine is on the way.. Nick www.27feet.com <http://www.27feet.com/>

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Re: Stories about Zorn
by Richard Gardner 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

With all this debate I wonder if anybody else feels that the whole thing is just a little disingenuous. Here we have the film maker filmed asleep in bed to be woken at the crack of dawn by Zorn, already up and working at the mastering suite. (Who was waiting camera in hand to catch the moment? How come there is a camera on Zorn while the director lies asleep in bed?) The filmmaker gives up her attempts to film the master and, despite his prolonged pieces to camera (a filmed lecture?), he slips enigmatically away. But wait a minute the whole thing is published on Zorn¹s own label. Perhaps all is not quite as it seems. Richard Gardner And I think the chance to see so much Zorn in action is great. I¹m really pleased I bought the film.

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Summer/Winter Reading - Quixote?
by aaron chua 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

Hi guys, Am wondering when that annual thread of recent fave litritchure will again raise its head. As I myself have been to horribly behind in my own reading habits I am not in any position to kick this one off. But to give it a gentle nudge, can anyone on the list recommend a good English translation of Don Quixote by Cervantes? Much Obliged to One and All. +++ As a Zorn related aside... Anthony Pateras is performing in a trio (pAteras/Baxter/Brown)25th July Bennetts LAne in Melbourne.9pm start. 2 sets to promote their cd Ataxia on Synrecords and fund European tour in October!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/

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Cecil Taylor
by Richard Gardner 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

I don't think anyone else has posted this. You lucky New Yorkers! Music at Castle Clinton: Cecil Taylor Castle Clinton Thursday, July 29, 2004 @ 7:00 PM Thursday, July 29, Castle Clinton in Historic Battery Park With tremendous energy and a percussive sound that is hailed as decades ahead of its time, Cecil Taylor is recognized as one the leading innovators in post-bebop Jazz. It is frequently said that his piano style is evocative of drum playing. The Alliance for Downtown New York, Inc. manages the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Business Improvement District (BID). The Downtown Alliance serves an area roughly from City Hall to the Battery, from the East River to West Street, for which it provides supplemental sanitation and security, economic development, streetscape and transportation improvements, marketing and enhanced tourist services. It is the mission of the Downtown Alliance to create and promote a safe, clean, live-work, totally wired community, which showcases the nation's most historic neighborhood and serves as the financial capital of the world for the twenty-first century. Music at Castle Clinton concerts are free. Tickets are required and will be distributed on a first-come, first-served basis, two per person, at Castle Clinton starting at 5pm on concert day.

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Re: Painkiller Warszawa
by Andrew Mortensen 25 Jul '04

25 Jul '04

Wasn't Talisman a beginning of another series, like the Naked City series (another volume of that wouldn't hurt). ## yeah, whatever happened to those next volumes?!?! of both NC & PK...??? Andrew n.p - Mainliner - "Hung" ##

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re Cervantes translations
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

hi all one thing ive found important when reading DonQ is to understand the jokes and references, so I'm fond of the penguin edition, even tho mine has the notes in the back instead of below. there are so many references to politics and culture of the epoch that i find that to be even more important that the style of the translation itself. a funny memory: when the film of the musical version of don quixote, man of la mancha, was released, the inimitable critic rex reed, a real jerk, said it was horrible because (im paraphrasing) the whole film was fecal in color. another critic slammed reed, saying whaddaya want from a film which takes place in a dungeon. i look forward to renting the film again; i havent seen it since its '70s release. this summer, however, im not gonna finally finish don quixote, (like romances, some things are better when they dont actually end...) but instead finally go through the entire schubert lieder on disc Lp set from emi. its hard to travel with, tho, so im taking with me the great whale instead. ice cubes and colors to all love steve koenig jumpartsjournal.org see new essay on turkish sefardic music n.p.: original bway cast: tony kushner's "caroline, or change"

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