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Melt-Banana, "Cell-Scape"
by Taylor McLaren 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

So I picked up a copy of the new Melt-Banana album yesterday, and the first thing that came to mind was that the cover art looked like something I would have expected to see on a Frontline Assembly album in the '90s. For the duration of the first track, "Cell-Scape" sounds a lot like the over-long intros to FLA songs, too. Thankfully, the whooshing and panning silliness dies down pretty quickly, and a whole bunch of fast, earnest RAWK ensues. The bass and guitar work would fit in pretty well with Alec Empire's more recent hard stuff, and I'm even reminded of the incredible drive behind the track that Tom Morello did with the Prodigy... these really aren't cool musical roots to be displaying, are they? Semi-unfortunately, the vocals don't always fit too comfortably on top of the music... where it's thick and heavy, they're sometimes thin and shrill, but any discomfort this causes usually goes away when another layer of guitar gets dropped into the mix and serious head-nodding resumes. Better yet, when the Rawk knob is turned down a notch or three so that the vocals can take over for a bit near the end, Yasuko starts channeling Alex Welz from Lick, and the result is... fun. It's sort of like "Teeny Shiny", minus the filler... aside from the intro, there's nothing on this disc that I dislike. Whoo-ha! -me

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Re: Live masada CD
by Maarten Hepp 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

> 4- Why was this cd never released by zorn himself? Is it legitimate? it's a bootleg I was wondering about this. The CD is on Jazz Door, a sublabel of the german ITM-Media. As they have released several official releases of avant-garde jazz, I always supposed this was a legitimate record label... Am I wrong about this? Maarten Hepp

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Re: dav/myra live on italian radio via web
by Dan Frank Kuehn 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Rats! DD septet! Electric Masada! Aiiii! Looks like there isn't any way to listen to this on my Mac... unless some Z-list techie can help. Seems to require something called audio/x-pn-realaudio . /////////// Luca teased us with this: for those on the list interested, rai, italian public broadcasting company is airing through web audio streaming: dave douglas septet recorded in Rome Jazz Club La Palma on March 12th 2003.it will be aired on July 8th Tuesday 8.30 PM Rome Time the link is http://www.radio.rai.it/radio3/ just click on the little radio like spot on the left for the streaming Myra Melford Be bread quartet recorded in Rome Jazz Club La palma on May 16th 2003.it will be aired on July 22nd Tuesday 10.30 PM Rome Time same venue for Zorn electric masada next 17th and 18th july gigs.No live air scheduled but be faithful for a recording next to be webcasted ciao luca //////////// Maybe Luca, you lucky dog, you could harass Rai into upgrading their player for us poor deprived americans... ciao Dan on Maui

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Re: Kevin Sharp
by Alfonso Vargas Gamio 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

He actually got behind the kit last year!!! He recorded 2 or 3 grindcore tracks on his own under the "Rhinocharge" moniker... somebody posted one of those tracks on the Relapse Records message board and that's where I got it. A fun 35-second grind blast... can't remember the name of it right now. AVG np: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood --------------- Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 09:37:33 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Kevin Sharp To: dave(a)silent-watcher.net, zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com When was the last time Mick Harris played drums?? I remember some years ago he mentioned that Zorn wanted him to record a duo with some organ player for Tzadik. Sounds pretty interesting, but I never heard about it later. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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re: nc & baron's kit
by Robbert! 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

slightly late reply to remarks about joey baron... judging by the sound, he indeed uses jazz kits on the recordings i know. also, when i¹ve seen him play live (usually in the bimhuis, amsterdam), he used the jazz kits that were there: 18² bass, 12² tom, 14² floor tom. nc amsterdam was different: 4 piece rock sized drum kit, hole in front head of bd. and yes, a double pedal. speaking of which: any drummers out there who have ideas about creatively (... what¹s wrong with elitism?) using one? in not-necessarily-metal (how¹s that for a label) settings?

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re: grand guignol
by Robbert! 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

> at the Naked City show April 27, 1991 Washington DC Late show, Zorn > introduces "Louange A L'eternitä De Jesus" (one of my fav pieces of all > time) & says it's from an album coming out soon, called "Grand Guignol" > which will feature this & other arrangements, plus a 20min song that > Diamanda Galas will scream on.... > > does anyone know about this & what happened to Diamanda not being on "G.G" > in the final master?? don¹t know about galas... but the rest of the songs is mainly torture garden material. speaking of which, does anyone know what exactly the differences are?

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re: paris 1919
by Robbert! 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

> I particularly like the solo "Fragments of a Rainy Season." There's a > gorgeous version of "Paris 1919," which has one of my all-time favorite > choruses, really jaunty and haunting (it even has a ghost in the lyrics) at > the same time. I'm surprised nobody seems to have covered it. check david soldier¹s soldier quartet (string quartet plus drums) from... i think sometime early 1990s (if you want to know the album¹s details, you can e-mail me off list). paris 1919 with an amazing shelley hersch on vocals.

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re: bass
by Robbert! 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

>> >My good friend recently switched to bass after frustration with guitar. He >> would like to know about players who play interesting/intricate bass parts on >> electric bass. He is looking for rock players, but experimental, free >> improv, jazz, etc would also be useful. Thanks. > claypool¹s solo on mr oysterhead on the album with the same name has it all...

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Re: Charles
by Robbert! 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

> > Of course, if you don't have any Ray Charles albums, there are too many > levels upon which you can't be helped. > > skip h > uhm... elitism has already been discussed?

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Re: this whole "creative" thing
by Bill Ashline 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

On 7/2/03 12:02 PM, "skip Heller" <velaires(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > I have a failsafe system: alphabetically by artist, and compilations > alphabetically by title. > > It's easier to find a Ray Charles album that way, instead of wondering if > he's jazz, blues, vocal or whatever. I think it all depends on your "case logic" Skip. Jon Abbey said in an interview this week that he owns somewhere in the neighborhood of 6000 CDs. I would need a secretary to manage that volume--not to mention a few categories. > > Of course, if you don't have any Ray Charles albums, there are too many > levels upon which you can't be helped. Oh now, now. Some of us happily don't know what we're missing. Ray's always in the background when I try to muster some endurance for a mandated karaoke session. Besides, I can always play the "my nostalgia is hipper than thou" with my Sidney Bechet and Django Reinhardt CDs. Don't have any of those? God have mercy on you. -- The human being is an unconscious prisoner of the ideologies and beliefs of society and the state who use him as a blind pawn in their machinery ever so destructive of lives and destinies.--Iannis Xenakis

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