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Re: Re: War
by Steve Smith 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

The duplicity of our unelected government-by-judicial-fiat is also underlined by the numbers of times we've quietly helped to assure that Saddam did, in fact, remain in power, and the extent to which we've quietly colluded with him to see that that remains the case. Better the dictator we know than the Shi'ite or Kurd we don't, apparently. (Damn, IAO's gonna have a file on me now for damn sure. And here I've been so careful to buy all of my seditious propaganda using cash only...) Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Gyorgy Ligeti, Violin Concerto - Zimmermann, Asko (Teldec)

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Re: Re: War
by Steve Smith 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

That's the subject of Alterman's new book. I thumbed through it at a bookstore a few days ago, and it looked interesting. Sure, I wanted it to fan my own personal ire at the rising ubiquity and popularity of the Sean Hannitys and Ann Coulters out there, and it does that. But it was pretty edifying to see some hard figures that point out Fox News blowhard Bill O'Reilly's distortions of fact and outright untruths. Saturday Night Live's parody of him wasn't far removed from truth, it seems. So far this year, my reading diet (aside from The Wire) has consisted of Noam Chomsky's '9-11' and the massive 'Saddam Hussein Reader' edited by Turi Munthe (the latter of which made me look at alleged dove Colin Powell in a whole new light); right now it's As'ad AbuKhalil's 'Bin Laden, Islam and America's New 'War on Terrorism.'" Meanwhile, Bush and his cabal are getting ready to roll out a sequel to the Patriot Act, with even more provisions for spying on Americans and racial profiling of non-Caucasian ethnicities: http://www.public-i.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502 And just yesterday I received a petition forwarded by Dave Douglas that indicated local authorities here in New York, at Rumsfeld's behest, are trying to avoid granting a permit for a massive anti-war demonstration scheduled for Saturday... Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com -------Original Message------- From: Robert Pleshar <rpleshar(a)midway.uchicago.edu> Sent: 02/11/03 02:38 PM To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: War Eric Alterman has an excellent article in the newest issue of "The Nation" about they myth of the "liberal" media and the actualy conservative bent of most of the media.

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Barker / Emery / Harris / Tchicai / Parker / Bennett / Rothenberg / Ribot
by zampino 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

We posted four new reviews at The Squid's Ear today: <http://www.squidco.com/ear/heardout.shtml> Thurman Barker / James Emery / Jerome Harris Bowery Poetry Club February 2nd, 2003 John Tchicai with the Either/Orchestra Tonic February 2nd, 2003 8 pm Evan Parker solo Metropolitan Museum of Art Grace R. Rogers Auditorium February 7th, 2003 Samm Bennett / Ned Rothenberg / Marc Ribot Location 1, NYC February 7, 2003 philz ==================================================================== Squidco The Squid's Ear http://www.squidco.com/ http://www.squidsear.com/ on sale: Recommended Records Back Catalog Sale just in: Chris Cutler Solo; Area Box set; Loose Fur; Keiji Haino; Les Poules; Frith/Dermome/Tanguay/Boisen; Bob Ostertag ====================================================================

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Re: War
by Ben Axelrad 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

The debate in America is pretty much: Should we go to war to disarm Iraq? Having this debate is extermely dishonest as (1) It assumes that the reason we are going to war is over safety and not oil and other geopolitical aims (2) It assumes that, contrary to the testimony of Scott Ritter and others, Iraq still has weapons of mass destruction or that the weapons they have are actually a threat (conventional weapons are degraded, the shelf lives of chemical/biological weapons make whatever they may have harmless) No one questions the fundamental reasons for war, why Bush won't take Yes for an answer, how a small country, easily defeated years ago, strangled by economic sanctions and illegally bombed for 12 years can possibly be a threat to the world's economic superpower, which spends more on defense than the next 20 countries combined. It's completely absurd. Ben >From: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann(a)gmx.net> >To: zorn-list <zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: War >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:47:24 +0100 > > > I ask because I hear that the US media has been > > completely failing to cover the anti-war movement > > across the states. I wonder is the underground > > providing an alternative means of communication? > > Here in Ireland, anti-war protestors have grabbed a > > lot of column inches by bashing in the nose of a plane > > carrying US military personnel with a hammer. I don't > > think any musicians have done anything specifically > > pro- or anti-war so far. >well, i'd be very interested in the situation in the usa, too. here in >germany there are lots of discussions going on about the topic and >there are many demostrations against the war. >... and even the german government tries to prevent a war. > >and on february 15th, this weekend, there are demonstrations scheduled >all over the world. if you have time, please go there and try to stop >the war before it starts!!! > > Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.net > ICQ: 96771783 > http://www.nyds-exp-discogs.tk >np: Keith Rowe, Oren Amarchi, Sachiko M, Otomo Yoshihide, Robbie > Avenaim: Thumb (Grob) > Blind Idiot God: Cyclotron (DIW) > To Rococo Rot & I-Sound: Music Is A Hungry Ghost >-- >The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, >mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, >the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, >burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across >the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and >everybody goes "Awww!" > Jack Kerouac > > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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War
by Rory Carr 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

hey, I was wondering are any of the downtown NYC music ppl getting involved in either the anti- or pro-war with Iraq camps? Undoubtedly they'll have pretty strong views on the "war against terror", as all New Yorkers must. Zorn in particular must have srtong feelings regarding the middle east. I ask because I hear that the US media has been completely failing to cover the anti-war movement across the states. I wonder is the underground providing an alternative means of communication? Here in Ireland, anti-war protestors have grabbed a lot of column inches by bashing in the nose of a plane carrying US military personnel with a hammer. I don't think any musicians have done anything specifically pro- or anti-war so far. Rory. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: War
by Ben Axelrad 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Steve Smith wrote: >And just yesterday I received a petition forwarded by Dave Douglas that >indicated local authorities here in New York, at Rumsfeld's behest, are >trying to avoid granting a permit for a massive anti-war demonstration >scheduled for Saturday... Organizers were denied a permit to march past the UN, but a stationary protest at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza is still planned. New Yorkers, please go. I'll look for you on C-Span: http://wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/nyc-f11.shtml http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0210-08.htm >That's the subject of Alterman's new book. I thumbed through it at a >bookstore a few days ago, and it looked interesting. Sure, I wanted it to >fan my own personal ire at the rising ubiquity and popularity of the Sean >Hannitys and Ann Coulters out there, and it does that. But it was pretty >edifying to see some hard figures that point out Fox News blowhard Bill >O'Reilly's distortions of fact and outright untruths. Saturday Night Live's >parody of him wasn't far removed from truth, it seems. My vote for worst pundit has to be radio host Michael Savage. His radio show is extremely racist, misogynistic, and (hetero)sexist. Upon hearing that a New England college voted in a referendum to come out against the war in Afghanistan, he said, "Go back to your bathhouse, we know what your agenda is." He'd rather spend his time ranting against homosexuals, "towelheads", social programs, and immigrants. There's also a nasty show in Mass/NH run by a former GOP campaign chief that is especially anti-immigrant. He wouldn't want his kids to learn Spanish because only the poor and criminal elements in America speak Spanish; better that they learn to speak German. Peace, Ben _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: FIMAV 2003
by Lawrence Joseph 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

According to the official FIMAV 20th Edition WWW site, only 6 acts are announced as of today (see fimav.qc.ca for details), with the rest of the lineup (another 18 shows) only announced in April. This is a break from the past 19 years, when the entire schedule has been announced well in advance. Does anyone know why this tradition has changed? The cynical among us may suggest that the organizers fear that full disclosure may discourage regular festival goers from shelling out for the festival passport. By the time the lineup is announced, the price for a passport will have gone up by $55. But it may well be for some other more mundane reason, such as difficulty in firming up the final schedule (but hard to believe that 18 acts are still to be confirmed, only three months before the festival, given how organized the festival usually is). Does anyone have more information about either the rest of the lineup or why the policy about when of the full lineup is announced has changed? Thank you, Lawrence

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Re: War
by Steve Smith 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Dave Douglas, William Parker and Michael Blake were among the artists involved in a recent protest concert/fundraiser, but publicity was poorly spread and attendance was reportedly low, according to Dave. On a somewhat related topic, on Saturday night the Knitting Factory (remember that?) hosted a concert billed as "Benefit to End the Israeli Occupation." The bill for that one included Meredith Monk, Marc Ribot, Elliott Sharp, Anthony Coleman and many other prominent and mostly (though not exclusively) Jewish artists. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Gyorgy Ligeti, 'Sippal, Dobbal, Nadihegeduvel' - Katalin Karolyi, Amadinda Percussion Group (Teldec)

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Re: Fimav 2003
by mwoodwor 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Based on the information I've received (some right from Michelle) - the reason for the delay is for some sort of reason involving the Canadian/Montreal Press. I didn't really understand the rationale, but I guess when they announce everything at once, they don't get as much press when they would prefer it. As far as I know, the whole festival has been decided/booked and should be excellent (considering what has been announced already!). As I said before someone out there must have the goods (the entire schedule of performers) and should let us know!! It's frustrating when you can only go for a limited amount of days (without risking the loss of life due to irrate wife) and can't figure it out/book flights until flippin April!!! Mike -According to the official FIMAV 20th Edition WWW site, only 6 acts are -announced as of today (see fimav.qc.ca for details), with the rest of the -lineup (another 18 shows) only announced in April. -This is a break from the past 19 years, when the entire schedule has been -announced well in advance. Does anyone know why this tradition has changed? -The cynical among us may suggest that the organizers fear that full -disclosure may discourage regular festival goers from shelling out for the -festival passport. By the time the lineup is announced, the price for a -passport will have gone up by $55. But it may well be for some other more -mundane reason, such as difficulty in firming up the final schedule (but -hard to believe that 18 acts are still to be confirmed, only three months -before the festival, given how organized the festival usually is). -Does anyone have more information about either the rest of the lineup or why -the policy about when of the full lineup is announced has changed?

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hugo linaires
by skip Heller 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

please email me off-list. skip h http://www.skipheller.com

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