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WAR NEEDS IMPROVISATION
by Alan 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Terrorism is scripted by the ruling elite. Improvisation applies to all good soldiers. YOU are being played like a cheap-ass fiddle. Its not COOL to fight for what one believes anymore, is it. Just let THEM fight for what THEY believe? Still think Bin Laden DID IT? Got any BALLS, cupcakes? Stumbled upon any of the internment camps set up across USA lately? Get your cheap-ass fiddle in the shop and FIX IT! Still lookin for a few good soldiers.......... Generalissimo Sabata AKA Indio Black Yellowknife NW Territories

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The Victo beans are spilling...
by mwoodwor 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

OK - now we are getting somewhere - thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. Here is everything that looks fairly certain so far for Victo this year. Please email anything that I've missed that you might know about. 14 shows down - 10 to go (believe there is 24 shows this year). C'mon, spill the rest of the beans........ And yes, Victo sent me an email saying there was no guarantee that the 6 main shows wouldn't sell out before everything else goes on sale in April. 1.Rene Lussier Orch - May 15 2.John Zorn Cobra - May 16 3.John Zorn Electric Masada - May 17 4.William Parker/Guy/Leandre/Phillips - May 17 (at least looks this way from Guy's website) 5.K.K. Roll, Xavier Charles + Parasite - May 17 6.Block/Dutton/Makigami/Minton/Moss - May 17 7.Saitoh/Sawai/Kazuo/Doneda/Quan Ninh - May 17 8.F. Frith - Ensemble Modern - May 18 9.Pan Sonic + Peaches - May 18 10. Brotzmann/Parker - Double Trio - MAy 19 11. Melvins/Fantomas - May 19 12. Sugimoto Guitar Quartet - NO date known yet/tentative 13. Ambarchi/Hecker duo - No date known yet 14. 2 X 2 (Samworth et al.) - NO date known yet Mike

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incus items
by Ricardo Campillo 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hi. I'm thinking to buy the Derek Bailey book about the improvisation on the Incus site, but I wish to know that I will find on this.Any comments about Bailey's videos on this site will be appreciated too. Thanks in advance. Ricardo. NP: Ennio Morricone :The exorcist2:the heretic ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! MÃ³viles Personaliza tu mÃ³vil con tu logo y melodÃa favorito en http://moviles.yahoo.es

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Re: War
by John Schuller 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

How do I unsubscribe? This thread is gonna go on until the end of the war... ----- Original Message ----- From: "rusegarden" <rusegarden(a)attbi.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:40:53 -0800 To: "Zorn List" <zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com> Subject: Re: War Re: question: Re: what do the military-industrial and oil industries have in common with Re: Israel? Re: Re: answer: Re: none of them are primarily concerned with the security of American Re: citizens. Re: Re: Israel's primary concern is their OWN security, NOT the security of Re: Americans. Re: (and you should know that the military/oil boys only care about Re: PROFIT) Re: Re: WAKE UP: Re: Bush and his military-industrial and oil buddies Re: AIN'T THE ONLY SELFISH BASTARDS Re: that have entrenched themselves in Washington, DC. Re: Re: WAKE UP: Re: Bush and his military-industrial and oil buddies Re: AREN'T THE ONLY SELFISH BASTARDS Re: leading us into this god-awful, stupid war. Re: Re: Read more about it via this report by two former CIA political analysts: Re: http://tinyurl.com/5qzz Re: Re: And here's a sobering look at the situation, courtesy of some CIA vets: Re: http://tinyurl.com/5r03 Re: Re: Wake up, American people - and think about who cares about *YOU* Re: Re: It ain't Bush, it ain't the military, it ain't the oil industry, and it Re: certainly Re: ain't Israel (they just want your tax dollars) or that dickhead Tony Re: Blair. Re: Re: So take that 99 cent featherless chicken sandwich outta your mouth, Re: turn off the brainwashing boob tube, put down your corporate paper, Re: WAKE UP, AND SHUT DOWN THIS 100B DOLLAR CRUSADE! Re: http://www.feb15.org Re: Re: ~ empty war heads #1-3: george w. bush, tony blair, ariel sharon ~ Re: Re: p.s. -- Re: fail to take action, and you'll get a taste of what "life" in Israel is Re: like. Re: if that sounds good to you, then by all means do nothing! Re: Re: Re: Re: _______________________________________________ Re: zorn-list mailing list Re: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Re: To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below Re: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list Re: -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife

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Re: War
by rusegarden 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

question: what do the military-industrial and oil industries have in common with Israel? answer: none of them are primarily concerned with the security of American citizens. Israel's primary concern is their OWN security, NOT the security of Americans. (and you should know that the military/oil boys only care about PROFIT) WAKE UP: Bush and his military-industrial and oil buddies AIN'T THE ONLY SELFISH BASTARDS that have entrenched themselves in Washington, DC. WAKE UP: Bush and his military-industrial and oil buddies AREN'T THE ONLY SELFISH BASTARDS leading us into this god-awful, stupid war. Read more about it via this report by two former CIA political analysts: http://tinyurl.com/5qzz And here's a sobering look at the situation, courtesy of some CIA vets: http://tinyurl.com/5r03 Wake up, American people - and think about who cares about *YOU* It ain't Bush, it ain't the military, it ain't the oil industry, and it certainly ain't Israel (they just want your tax dollars) or that dickhead Tony Blair. So take that 99 cent featherless chicken sandwich outta your mouth, turn off the brainwashing boob tube, put down your corporate paper, WAKE UP, AND SHUT DOWN THIS 100B DOLLAR CRUSADE! http://www.feb15.org ~ empty war heads #1-3: george w. bush, tony blair, ariel sharon ~ p.s. -- fail to take action, and you'll get a taste of what "life" in Israel is like. if that sounds good to you, then by all means do nothing!

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Raymond Scott
by Arthur Gadney 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hi, Anybody bought the recent Raymond Scott Sextette CD "Microphone Music"? Is it as good as the previous one? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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re: FIMAV 2003 / John Oswald
by Bruno Bissonnette 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

My beef right now with the way this has been announced is this: I don't expect to get the full festival pass, but given the high number of interesting concerts already announced, I would definitely get one of the other deals (like 15% off for 4-6 concerts, etc..) - but to be able to do that, the full lineup must be announced. So in the meantime, this might be somewhat unjustified, but from here to April isn't there a risk that some of these 6 high-profile concerts might sell-out? So anyone waiting for those deals would be screwed... Consequently I'm tempted to buy tickets for these six concerts right now, but of course would pay full-price. On a tangent, did anyone else notice John Oswald's name in the Cobra lineup? Nice... but will he be on sax or computer/electronics? And when is this guy going to put out more records... look at this thing I found online: "Oswald is currently the cover boy for the British music mag The Wire. He's just finished helping with James Kudelka's The Contract for the National Ballet of Canada, and is making several trips in the next few weeks to Europe to play sax with Michael Snow's improvising trio CCMC. His first Moving Still to be exhibited in North America, entitled Jacko Lantern, was recently on display in the window of Pages Books as part of both the Images Moving Pictures and the Contact Festival of Photography, while Stills, his first solo show of images, was held over at Toronto Harbourfront's Premiere Dance Theatre for eight months. He is also developing Spinvolver, a stage show with actress/dancer/singer Susanna Hood, who plays his alter-ego. Oswald has just completed 'aparanthesi', a one note electroacousmatic composition, entailing some research in the perception of sonic morphs. He recently composed a "Concerto for Wired Conductor and Orchestra", which premiered at Boston Symphony Hall. He designed the soundtrack and system for Stress, an eight-screen movie by Bruce Mau, showing at the Museum of Technology in Vienna. A new piece entitled "Oswald's First Piano Concerto by Tchaikovsky, (as suggested by Michael Snow)" was recently premiered in Vancouver by Paul Plimley and the CBC orchestra. He composed a score for the National Ballet of Canada for orchestra, robot piano and the disembodied singing voice of Glenn Gould. For the past three years he has been creating a database of photo portraits for a series of "Moving Stills". One of his plunderphonie video/photo collages was shown at the Royal Festival Hall Hayward Gallery in London and was immediately sold as a gift to the Museum of Modern Art in New York. Of recent works, he wrote, directed and produced a radio play in four interwoven languages (Brazilian, Dutch, English & German); wrote, animated, directed & scored "Homonymy" (for chamber ensemble & cinema); scored the stage version of the silent movie classic "Metropolis"; produced the soundtrack album to the gay porn feature "Hustler White"; as well as appearing as himself in John Greyson's feature film "Un©ut" and Craig Baldwin's "Sonic Outlaws", and he was the subject of one of Moses Znaimer's television documentaries "The Originals". " A lot of this sounds mighty interesting... not to mention that he's been supposedly working for years on a new version of Plexure (quite possibly my all-time favorite Avant release.) Why is NONE of this seeing release? There could be CDs, DVDs, etc.. Bruno Bissonnette _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: ROVA etc./ Soulseek?
by Patrice L. Roussel 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:50:46 -0600 "Ben Axelrad" wrote: > > haven't read a physics textbook in a while, but i believe what sean is > describing is called "destructive interference" Since talking about Rova, Victo seems to have a new one out. Patrice.

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politics of war
by SUGAR in their vitamins? 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarschall

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Re: Politics of No Politics
by John Schuller 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

I would like to think humanity could get it's shit together and not eat McDonald's, listen to Justin Timberlake, make Kangaroo Jack a #1 movie etc. etc. if people can't move beyond that type of bland thought process - how are we ever going to get our shit together enough to do something as huge as solving problems with Iraq and North Korea in a "peaceful" way? I think another real problem out there is what will happen here in America after the next "terror" attack. Watch civil liberties go bye-bye... Everytime something is plugging the news up as much as Iraq is right now - I wonder what it's diverting our attention away from...(remember when Clinton had us bombing Iraq asprin factories to divert attention from the Monica Lewinsky Blow Job?)... BTW - I am totally down with MorMovies comments. ----- Original Message ----- From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <yol(a)esophagus.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) To: <MorMovies(a)aol.com> Subject: Re: Politics of No Politics Re: gee, i don't recall anyone suggesting there is only one acceptable Re: stance on the idea of war. Re: Re: you're probably right, violence is a side of nature we cannot Re: suppress. yet i will always be hopeful humanity, with its unbelievably Re: greater capacity for intelligence and tool building, can use those Re: gifts to see around the problems life presents us in a more civil way. Re: feel free to disgaree, but i personally would like to live a few more Re: years on this still green planet and i'd like to do it in a fashion Re: which does not involve gas masks and mushroom clouds thank you. Re: Re: --dk Re: Re: Re: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 MorMovies(a)aol.com wrote: Re: Re: > Politics in some artist/music-oriented context is fine with me. So Re: > much art (bad art, IMO) is injected with politics. But I do resent Re: > the absolute bull$*&% brain-washed idea that there is ONE "good" Re: > acceptable stance on the idea of war?! Yeah, we can all hold hands Re: > and agree war SUCKS but doesn't evey living thing on this f'ing Re: > planet have to fight and kill at some point during the Re: > day/month/year, etc.?! I do not believe in the abstract, Re: > supernatural human-created concept of 'PEACE.' It does not exist in Re: > the natural world in our particular planet!! Point to it- SHOW IT Re: > TO ME!! It can apply to a mind-state or art and music but not Re: > reality, in my opinion. While we might momentarily enjoy "peace" Re: > some jerk is being dipped in acid or tortured or oppressed somewhere Re: > on the planet! Does that qualify as 'peace?' Then, I consider Re: > myself anti-peace! By the way, I consider myself as 'undecided' Re: > regarding the war with Iraq but I believe you HAVE to use hyper Re: > psychotic, threatening rhetoric to at least avoid conflict Re: > momentarily. Doesn't every animal have to snarl, roar or ruffle its Re: > feathers to deter agressors or predators? I refuse to believe the Re: > human species is genetically capable of being any different. On the Re: > other hand, I personally enjoy violent, insane art (specifically Re: > music and film) more than the sedate, 'peaceful' soothing kind. Re: > Sorry for the rant... Re: Re: Re: Îç+-¨¥x%Ës¢¹åËfj)fj|fË"¢w(:5%H$HJ+ Re: §æ(º´®nÇ+b¢s©¶*'² Re: -¢Ø^ÁæéjzZ0Ûiûÿæj)fj|fË"¢w(÷ ¸§þf¢f§þX¬¶)ß£üè®yb² Re: Re: Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. Re: Re: Re: _______________________________________________ Re: zorn-list mailing list Re: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Re: To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below Re: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list Re: -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife

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