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Evan Parker + Derek Bailey
by Arthur Gadney 27 May '02

27 May '02

Hello, I heard from a very reliable source that Evan Parker managed to get some old master tapes out of Derek Bailey and will be releasing them on his own record company. Pretty spetacular news, no? Did anybody manage to listen to the new Han Bennink & Evan Parker CD? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Fwd: Re: Estradsphere (was: Sacrifist)
by Efrén del Valle 27 May '02

27 May '02

Hi, Estradosphere are a funny band with good musical skills but not much more, IMHO. One of their great abilities is to copy Mr. Bungle note by note. Of course nobody's 100% original but this... Greetings, EfrÃ©n del Valle n.p: Jean Jacques Perrey "Moog Indigo" > > I agree that estradasphere is a great band, one of > the best to come out in a > while. You cannot deny their skill as musicians. I > have never heard a band > that is 100 % original. _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 Disfruta en vÃdeo de los mejores momentos desde tu ordenador. http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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RE: Sacrifist
by Arthur Gadney 26 May '02

26 May '02

Hello, >Wow! I have Taboo and Exile and I don't remember it. I thought the >consensus was that Taboo was not a very good record. I thought it was >one of Zorn's "lesser" efforts. I know the track with Patton is not >highly thought of. (btw, what does every one think of the track with >Patton on IAO, I think it's pretty weak) Am I wrong about Taboo? Well, I haven't been able to find any reliable statistics on the subject, but personally I was quite dissapointed by "Taboo & Exile" and most certainly by the track with Patton. Yes, surely, there is some nice stuff on it, but I still get the feeling that Zorn could deliver one of these every week. Come to think of it, he more or less has! I have only heard very positive remarks on IAO, especially the track with Patton. Now, Naked City live, THAT is the stuff!!! Back then, this stuff was really cool and fresh. I mean, it was actually something. Now it seems every damn you hipster band, tries out this stuff. A bit of hard core, a surf cover etc. It's pointless. Is there a worse band than Estradasphere, I'd like to know about it. But Naked City. Those were the days. Can't wait for more live CDs. Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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estradasphere
by mwoodwor 26 May '02

26 May '02

Mmmmm - I totally disagree, I think Estradasphere is excellent. I listened to one of their live concerts today and thoroughly enjoyed myself, but what do I know, I'm sitting around listening to the new Fucking Champs album and loving that too. mike Is there a worse band than Estradasphere, I'd like to >know about it.

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In the Mirror of Maya Deren @ ACF
by pequet＠altern.org 26 May '02

26 May '02

In case the info has not been relayed already (I was distracted), this might be of interest for nyers: June 7, 8:30pm June 9, 6pm Martina Kudlacek: In the Mirror of Maya Deren (2001, 103 min) Austrian Cultural Forum 11 East 52nd Street New York City (212) 310 5300 << Due to limited seating capacity in the auditorium, tickets are required. They are available, free of charge, on the day of the event only, on a first-come, first-served basis at the ACF reception desk 30 minutes prior to beginning time. >> http://www.acfny.org/

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Fwd: Re: Sacrifist
by Thierry Raguin 26 May '02

26 May '02

> Oh, also features Buckethead who is actually amazing on this record. > If this was the only record he had ever made, he would have become a > hero. Unfortunately ho chose to poison the world by doing the same, > and the same, and the same, over and over and over and over, and over > again. And again. As you say, Buckethead usually does the same thing again and again but the Praxis album, Transmutation Live, recorded in Zurich is really great! Four 15 mn songs with themes from the album Transmutation but played faster and with great scratch from the Invisible Scratch Pickles. I really enjoyed this album. Totally different from his other ones. What he did with Les Claypool (from Primus) was also good and quite "Primus-influenced"... - TR

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Ulrich Krieger
by Chris Selvig 25 May '02

25 May '02

I'm not an expert on the guy by any stretch, but he's a German saxophonist partial to avant classical pieces. He's on Phill Niblock's excellent "Young Person's Guide to Phill Niblock," has a solo CD out on OO Discs, and I just read this morning that he has a new CD out leading an ensemble performing John Cage pieces. Chris Selvig

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Fwd: Sacrifist
by Eriedell＠aol.com 25 May '02

25 May '02

In a message dated 5/25/02 5:33:36 PM, zsteiner(a)butler.edu writes: << Wow! I have Taboo and Exile and I don't remember it. I thought the consensus was that Taboo was not a very good record. >> >From what I remember, the concensus on the z-list was that taboo, although good, wasn't a very necessary album. I think it's a great intro for new zorn listeners--maybe the closest thing to a "best of" album for zorn.

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Cage E's Bite Size (TM) vikto reviews, ver. 5.20
by Kurt Gottschalk 25 May '02

25 May '02

5.20 Scanner/Stephen Vitiello The idea was to record sounds around Victoriaville and sample them live. But Victoriaville, a prairie town of about 35,000, just doesnt sound that interesting. Wetfish Because They Speak French in Quebec Maybe the surprise hit of the fest. Two male vocalists (Tuva and beatbox), percussion, violin, cello and electronics, and a video track (done up like a DVD with different sections to select) about Hollywood v Quebecois film. Very funny, and musically pretty interesting. David Kristian/Sam Shalabi/Alexandre St-Onge electronics, bowed bass on the floor and quiet scrapey guitar and oud. Nice, not compelling. The other instance of an interesting instrument used uninterestingly. But is it worse to do nothing on a guitar than to do nothing on an oud? Merzbow/Pan Sonic First time seeing Merzbow, and I didnt have the same reaction that many voiced. I wanted brutality, and I wasnt that touched. Id heard plenty of digital sounds at this point, and I could have used someone putting a hacksaw through a heavily miked piece of metal, but I suppose M dont do that no more. Id like to think Pan Sonic were to blame for the dance beats, but Im not sure that was the case. Next year: Victo turns 20. Bonus quote from Michel: I dont know why people seem to expect things because its the 20th anniversary. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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RE: Sacrifist
by Kurt Gottschalk 25 May '02

25 May '02

>From: "Zachary Steiner" Wow! I have Taboo and Exile and I don't remember >it. I thought the >consensus was that Taboo was not a very good record. I thought it was >one of Zorn's "lesser" efforts. I know the track with Patton is not >highly thought of. (btw, what does every one think of the track with >Patton on IAO, I think it's pretty weak) Am I wrong about Taboo? t&e is quite a good record that gets ignored because of presentation. i thought it was odd when that and 'music for children' (another good disc) came out, people here on the list kept complaining about him not doing anything new, as if masada were the only game in town. if zorn had formed a group called 'the jz hardcore porno symphonia' and released the same records, with only some members playing on certain tracks, they would have been regarded quite differently, since then it would have been a proper band. (probably even a visionary band, setting the trend for members who sit around and don't play that would be picked up by the godspeed/set fire families.) "The Harcore Porno Symphonia went on to do a breakthrough (though lesser) pop album "The Gift," only to confound fans once again with their dense "Hermetic Theater" release. They eventually faded into obscurity until 2012, when a 78-piece version of the group reunited for the Labatts Rock'n'Actuelle Festivale Musique, held simulataneously in Victoriaville and Toronto (English-only) every spring." -from the 2020 Dell/Rolling Stone Illustrated history of Avant'n'Roll. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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