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Re: Victo
by Andreas Dietz 31 May '02

31 May '02

is the CD interesting too and what label? I didnÂ´t find so much while googleing. Andreas np: Homler - Waegeman - Fajt / Corne de vache (Victo) >From: "Jeni Dahmus" <jdahmus(a)juilliard.edu> > >Peggy Lee/Marilyn Lerner - Surprisingly out! An unbelievable cello/piano >duo; both players were amazing. I bought their CD immediately after the >concert. _________________________________________________________________ Downloaden Sie MSN Explorer kostenlos unter http://explorer.msn.de/intl.asp.

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Wholesalers in the U.K
by Edgar Lee 30 May '02

30 May '02

I work in a record shop in Melbourne, Australia. Could anyone recommend a record wholesaler in the U.K soemwhat along the lines of the American ones like Revolver, Lumberjack and Norwalk. Thanks Edgar NP I'm on a Ribot bender. http://www.sold.com.au - The Sold.com.au Big Brand Sale - New PCs, notebooks, digital cameras, phones and more ... Sale ends June 12

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Short Attention Span Plunderphonic Radio???
by john schuller 30 May '02

30 May '02

http://www.quick96.com/index.htm This is for real. There is a radio station in Seattle that just plays "The Best part of each song" They play 400 songs an hour...looks like either John Oswald, Negativeland or the Residents are behind this... For thos ein Seattle 96.5 FM Quick 96 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Victo
by Jeni Dahmus 30 May '02

30 May '02

Victo exceeded my expectations as a first-timer. I thought several concert-packed days in a row might be overwhelming. Not the case. In fact I was bummed about missing 2 concerts (Mruta Mertsi and I8U). It was a challenge to digest all the music, especially with little sleep, but overall the festival was a blast. The people of Victoriaville were quite pleasant. I was shocked when a kind local storeowner ran after me down the street because he forgot to offer his extra concert ticket. Doubtful that would happen in NY. My only complaint about Victoriaville, beyond the general lack of stuff to do, is the inattentive waitresses. But at least they were friendly. It was a pleasure to meet other Zorn listers there and to discuss our sometimes contrasting views on the music. Basically I agree with the Mighty Kurt G's bite size Victo reviews, except my ears could not get into Polwechsel. Festival highlights for me, in order of appearance: Peggy Lee/Marilyn Lerner - Surprisingly out! An unbelievable cello/piano duo; both players were amazing. I bought their CD immediately after the concert. Text of light: Lee Ranaldo/William Hooker/Alan Licht/Ulrich Krieger/DJ Olive - Krieger produced interesting sounds with his extended sax, which he used as a percussion instrument for most of the concert. DJ Olive seemed to be the only ensemble member following the film literally. He included baby cries when a baby appeared on screen, for instance. Melt Banana!!! - I was psyched to see them again. I stood in a premium spot to watch the guitarist. Giant thumbs up to his slide technique (he literally has a big cup of guitar slides on stage) and use of various gadgets. Hamid Drake/Gerry Hemingway - A great way to start the Saturday schedule! I wish drum set duos were more common. Satoko Fujii/Tatsuya Yoshida - I LOVED this set! Admittedly I'm a fan of Yoshida, yelping, and aggressive music. Fujii and Yoshida played full force from the start, which was refreshing after hearing set after set of the typical formula: slow introduction, development, conclusion. The duo seemed pleased with the performance; when Yoshida spoke on stage, Fujii noted that he must be happy because she had not seen him address the audience before. The concert gets my vote for CD release of the festival. The Necks - Speaking of slow intros...The Necks have a special way of gradually building up tension in a controlled manner. I think they are best experienced live. I had only heard one Necks album before the concert and was not especially intrigued. The live show turned me into a fangirl. Peter Kowald/William Parker - Wow, my first time seeing Kowald. I'm thrilled he lives in NY now. The pair was interesting to watch. Parker used multiple bows (up to 3 at one point) and dropped them on the stage/picked them up throughout the set. Meanwhile Kowald observed Parker intently. Eugene Chadbourne/Rene Lussier - A stellar departure from the rest of the festival. Lussier and Chadbourne have serious chops. Bob Ostertag/Pierre Hebert - Kurt described it well. The music and visuals kept me on the edge of my seat. Ostertag's use of mechanical toys, in addition to soda cans and food, is also worth mentioning. Wetfish - Fun! It's a shame so many people skipped the last day of the festival; it turned out to be one of the best in my opinion. Wetfish creatively combined some of my favorite things: funky vocals, strings, percussion, electronics, and film. I'm anxious to hear more of this group! I couldn't find a copy of their Nosferatu CD for sale at Victo. Merzbow/Pan Sonic - My first live Merzbow experience. The music was so intense and powerful that my insides shook. Lesson learned: do not sit in the front row at a Merzbow show if you are sensitive to sound. Merzbow sat on stage like a statue, making no facial expressions whatsoever, while he moved his computer mouse like mad. From what I could tell Pan Sonic seemed to follow Merzbow's lead for the most part. Honestly I would have preferred to see Merzbow solo. Jeni ps Reminder to NYers - Zorn's Chimeras at Merkin Hall this Saturday!

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re: Meshuggah
by Bernie hotmail 30 May '02

30 May '02

Craig Taborn last march 2002, told a friend of mine (who's a concert producer) that he just loved meshuggah music. I'm a Jazz listener (Free, New Free, avant-garde, Coltrane, Miles, Ornette, etc...) and I'm also a fan of meshuggah. They are powerful and technically very advanced. As well as "Destroy, erase improve" I do also like their last studio album, called "Chaosphere" except last track which is a 15' boring stuff, but, for instance, listen to "sane": adrenalitic. Bernie. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Banjology" <banjology(a)yahoo.com> > To: <zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:32 PM > Subject: Meshuggah > > > > Hey all, > > I am a guitarist, who normally plays jazz (straight > > ahead - to really modern zorn type stuff) I have been > > playing bass in a metal band for about a year, its > > kind of a joke thing we made up with three jazz > > musicians playing metal. So most of the stuff that we > > have been doing (slayer, pantera etc) has been pretty > > easy...but recently we have started to get into > > Meshuggah. And I am completly blown away by the > > complexity of their music....i know their name has > > been mentioned a couple times. I know this might seem > > a stupid question...but how does this group related to > > zorn and modern jazz related music? > > > > John > > > > > > ===== > > John LeGassey > > Banjology(a)yahoo.com > > AOL Messenger - GtrJazz9 > > Yahoo Messenger - GtrJazz9 > > > > Guitarist - Instructor > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > zorn-list mailing list > > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > > >

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Re: Meshuggah
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 30 May '02

30 May '02

> I was driving Ken Vandermak when he was in my hometown, to play with DKV. We > were waiting for Hamid Drake to go out from the hotel, I was playing System > of a Down in the car. It's good music when you like speeding. Ken told me > "if you like this, you have to try Meshuggah, you will love it". I did. I > don't "love" it, but I must admit, it's advanced and complex. The only > "boring" thing is pretty flat level of "emotion", it's like most metal > groups - headbanging all the time. In this particular aspect, it's opposite > to jazz. It's good to see Meshuggah acknowledged on the Zorn list, they are easily the most complex and innovative metal band around. The strange thing with Meshuggah, though, is that hardcore metal fans in general don't like their latest album "Chaosphere", which to me is the defining album of the entire metal genre. It's like the complexity goes way over their heads. I've had numerous discussions with metal fans on Meshuggah, and the large majority of them will say they prefer "Destroy Erase Improve". I'm really anxious to find out what their new album "Turbulence" is going to sound like; my prediction is that they will bow down to the demands of their fans, and come up with an album more in the vein of "Destroy..." than continuing the mathematical perfection of "Chaosphere". It seems that Meshuggah gets a lot of recognition from the non-metal avant-garde. I know Trey Spruance (Mr.Bungle) is into them big time, and there are also rumours that the metal record that Francisco Lopez used to construct "Untitled #104" is in fact "Chaosphere". If you're into technically complex stuff that is still really heavy, I would also recommend Nile's "Black Seeds of Vengeance". The drumming on this album is completely insane. They also have a new album in the works, but I really don't think they can come up with anything as good as the first half of "Black Seeds...", which is just completely mind-blowing. Seeing them do this stuff live totally changed my perception of what was humanly possible in music. While you're at it, check out the new Arcturus album, which is the best album I've heard this year in any genre (although Nurse With Wound's "Man With The Woman Face" is also top-notch). The perfect post-modern metal album. Frankco.

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Re: Music Now 5 (NYC)
by Dgasque＠aol.com 29 May '02

29 May '02

Only list members with "tween" daughters like myself would have initally read this subject line as _Now That's Music 5_ and wondered what listserv she'd signed onto using my account rather than hers... -- =dg=

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Good Bootleg Sources?
by Michael Brooker 29 May '02

29 May '02

Could anyone recommend any excellent sources for bootlegs for all types of music? (not just exclusive to zorn and company) Thanks..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: Meshuggah
by Dgasque＠aol.com 29 May '02

29 May '02

In a message dated Wed, 29 May 2002 Â 4:34:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Banjology <banjology(a)yahoo.com> writes: ...but recently we have started to get into >Meshuggah. And I am completly blown away by the >complexity of their music....i know their name has >been mentioned a couple times. I know this might seem >a stupid question...but how does this group related to >zorn and modern jazz related music? > Actually, you answered the question above. I'd think most here get into the techo-metal stuff ala Meshuggah, Watchtower, Spastic Ink, etc., *because* of its complexity. Of course, I'm sure many here also think such discussions have no place here on zorn-l... -- np: droning of Compaq servers and air handlers, broken occasionally by a warning beep on the Blackberry. =dg=

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Music Now 5 (NYC)
by Kurt Gottschalk 29 May '02

29 May '02

Time Capsule, Inc. and Neues Kabarett are pleased to present the fifth Music Now festival at The Brecht Forum on Friday June 14, 2002, Saturday, June 15th, and Sunday, June 16th, from 8 pm until 12 am each evening. This festival feature some of the most innovative improvisational music on the current scene, performed by artists dedicated to the principles of true democracy in the creative arts, including Raphe Malik, who is making a rare New York appearance. Friday, June 14th: The Louis Belogenus Trio with Adam Lane, Ryan Sawyer; Matana Roberts Trio with Tony Malaby, and Angelica Sanchez; Ras Moshe Quartet with Todd Capp, Anders Nilsson, Todd Nicholson. Saturday, June 15: Oscar Noriega Trio with Marc Ferber and Thomas Morgan; Reut Regev, Igal Foni, Chris Lightcap; Matt Lavelle's N.Y. Trumpet Nemesis with Roy Campbell, Jr., Lewis Barnes, Dave Ballou, Ryan Sawyer; The Umoja Unit with Raphe Malik, Daniel Carter, William Parker, Tor Snyder, Ras Moshe, and Jackson Krall. Sunday, June 16: Dichotomy with Tom Abbs and Okkyung Lee; No Limits with Alex Harding, Cooper-Moore, Wilbur Morris, and Reggie Nicholson; Space Probe with Ras Moshe, Chris Corsano, Kyoko Kitamura, Steve Swell, Matt Heyner, Francois Grillot, and David Brandt; Sabir Mateen's Sound Textures Unit with Raphe Malik, Jane Wang, Naoko Ono, and Ravish Momin. The Brecht Forum is located at 122 West 27th Street, 10th Floor, between Sixth and Seventh Avenues, in Manhattan. Telephone: 212.242.4201. Admission is a sliding scale of $8 to $10. The Brecht Forum is accessible by #1, #2 trains to 23rd Street, F train to 23rd Street. Contact: Ras Moshe, 917.749.2465, rasmoshe(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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