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Re: Bowie / Heathen
by Nvinokur＠aol.com 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/23/02 6:34:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, TagYrIt(a)aol.com writes: << this rasies a question I've been thinking about for a while. While Bowie has delt with being an aging rock star better than most, who HAS done it better than him, or been exemplary? >> Dylan, just saw live, Stones, saw live at Garden, they give support to all of us aging people, Neil Young, Ray Davies (maybe) Richard Thompson, Patti Smith, Lou Reed, XTC (if they count as aging), if yes, Elvis Costello, Van Morrison, just to think of a few who are not an embarrassment.

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Bowie
by Tosh 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

I recently purchased the Best of Bowie DVD collection and I am wowed by his consistant star power and sense of smarts. He has often made two steps back and one good step forward. But he also had a long career with a lot of highs (and with some rather bad lows). I think his new album is great, and what makes him fab is that he does deal with his age. The same goes for Dylan's last album - which sounds like a great album from a 60 year old! So, in general (and since I am in my late 40's)I am totally into this new old guys (and girls) pop! On the DVD collection there is a song called 'Thursday's Child,' off Hours - and that video deals with middle-age man angst! But on top of that, my other favorite middle-age CD (besides Dylan) is Bryan Ferry's latest 'Frantic.' That is also a great album. On a sad note, Joe's death is just simply terrible news. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

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Joe Strummer RIP
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

So sad. Tom http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/23/britain.strummer/index.html

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Bowie / Heathen
by TagYrIt＠aol.com 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/23/2002 3:46:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, jzitt(a)metatronpress.com writes: > I don't hear this textural richness on 'Heathen'. If he's stopped trying > to reach the Top 40 (and I doubt he's been trying for it for quite a > long time), it's hard to hear what he is trying for, other than perhaps > putting himself out to pasture. I found it telling that the coverage I > recall seeing for this album was more in fashion magazines than in music > magazines -- he seems to be comfortable being defined by the suits he's > wearing so well. Sure, he may not be teen pop anymore, but I still think > he has it in him to do more than croon these forgettable tunes. > I tend to agree with this asessment of Heathen, it mostly bored me, much like Tonight. However, this rasies a question I've been thinking about for a while. While Bowie has delt with being an aging rock star better than most, who HAS done it better than him, or been exemplary? Dale.

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DOH!!!
by Steve Smith 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

[ADVANCE WARNING: This is going to seem totally contrived, since Greg Kelley is on at least one of these lists and bhob rainey is on the other one. But even given my days of preparation for posting my imperious "2002 in the rear view" list, I *KNEW* I'd manage to forget someone. And I did! So here it is...] Don't know why it took me so long to catch on, but my MOST important "Belated Discovery" of the year was nmperign. I'm reasonably certain that my prior ignorance was due to thinking that their entire previous output was irrevocably out of print. But after hearing Greg's 'Trumpet' and 'Forlorn Green' and bhob's solo cut on one of Crouton Music's 'Folktales' releases and catching a live gig by Tatsuya Nakatani (with Tim Barnes) -- and JUST as I was ready to hit eBay -- I found the two nmperign CDs on Twisted Village *AND* the way-groovy collaboration with Jason Lescalleet (of 'Forlorn Green' and 'Mattresslessness' fame, you remember...) on Intransitive, just sitting there, kinda STARING at me, at Mondo Kim's one night after I'd had several drinks during an amazing set by Butch Morris (it's 11/19 on my "10 Live Events" list if you're really following all this). I've obviously sobered up since that night, so I can solemnly say to you, if you're reading this and you're AT ALL into avant-jazz, free improv and/or EAI, you just simply MUST know nmperign. As for me, I'll just grovel and beg forgiveness on February 6. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - nmperign, i, '44'38"/5' (Twisted Village)

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can anyone help?
by RainDog138＠aol.com 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

i recently stumbled on a site a month ago that had mp3's of a BBC radio show on the music of john zorn. it was a four part series of which they only had the second part posted. this site was in a foreign language i couldn't read. i somehow didn't bookmark it and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find mp3's of the other 3 parts. thanks. - mike

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Re: Cecil "Great Paris Concert" LP
by Steve Smith 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:41:49 -0800 Chris Selvig <selvig(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the Cecil > Taylor double LP coming out on > Get Back? There's some debate around here as > to whether it's really live > in Paris in 1964, and I don't really want to > drop $23 to find out the truth. I don't blame you. I've never heard of any live recordings of Cecil that date from 1964, Paris or otherwise. The recording previously issued under that title by Black Lion (and on BYG as 'Student Studies') was from November 1966 and features Alan Silva (who is not mentioned in the Forced Exposure news blast) in addition to Taylor, Lyons and Cyrille. This must certainly be that, and I can only wonder if Get Back has managed to improve on the reviled Black Lion CD issue, which was poorly transferred from a noisy vinyl copy. Good performance, though, and some really unusual music, even by Taylor standards. I seem to remember Cyrille playing tubular bells at one point, but it's been a while... Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Immortal, "Through the Halls of Eternity," 'Battles in the North' (Osmose)

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Okay, I'm serious
by skip Heller 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

While driving home from La Puente last night at about midnight, I had the opportunity to spend about an hour in the car listening to what purported to be Los Angeles' most wide-in-scope programming, both on KLON and KCRW. KLON was hard bopping itself into a frenzy, with detours through established Latin bands with post-Trane tenor solos and a couple of tiptoes through "new" jazz artists (more hard bop). And a couple of Bill Holman-type modern big band things (please kill me). KCRW's "progressive and eclectic" pop offerings were no less provincial. No offense to any Beck fans, but anything that occupies the Top 40 as much as Beck is hardly an alternative to commercial radio. In short, I didn't exactly hear anything that made me curious about what I was listening to. Taking a page from the Book Of Biafra (Jello, that is), I have decided, rather than to Hate The Media, to Become The Media. Here's the deal -- and, unfortunately, I can only open it to United States Zorn listers: Forty minutes of stuff people need to hear -- in print, out of print, whatever. The only rules: 1. None of the content is allowed to be from the pop top forty anytime after 1966. This includes cuts from albums that have made it to the pop top forty, so VESPERTINE and the last three Tom Waits albums don't qualify. 2. You make two copies and pass 'em along to your pals. 3. No more than one cut per artist. 4. Ellery Eskelin cannot be present on any of the cuts. 5. Don't include your own music. You send me your disc and .60 in postage, and I'll send you my disc. Contact me off-list for snail mail info. Money's too tight for people to drop $18 on records we've heard or read about. I want to be inspired to go into a record store because I've HEARD something compelling. No use cursing the available media. It's time to tap each other. We are as a group an informed consumership, but we're a pretty divergent group. Let's really put that to tangible cmmonity benefit.

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Cecil "Great Paris Concert" LP
by Chris Selvig 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Does anyone know anything about the Cecil Taylor double LP coming out on Get Back? There's some debate around here as to whether it's really live in Paris in 1964, and I don't really want to drop $23 to find out the truth. Chris Selvig

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Re: Michiyo Yagi
by David Keffer 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Michiyo Yagi also appears in several different ensembles on the recently released 4-cd compilation, "The Festival Beyond Innocence cd Series: A Brief History in 67 Chapters" on Innocent Records (FBI 102, 103, 104 & 105, four compact discs, 2002). FBI (Festival Beyond Innocence) is an imprint of the Innocence (formerly Zenbai) label of Kazuhisa Uchihashi. The Festival is held annually in the fall in Kobe, Japan and is curated by Uchihashi Kazuhisa of Altered States and many other ensembles. This compilation features pieces from the 1996, 97, 98, 99, and 2000 Festivals and, while I have only listened to disc three so far (just arrived in the mail yesterday), that much (all of it) is just great. In addition to Michiyo Yagi, all sorts of folks with instant name recognition on this list (Eugene Chadbourne, Steve Beresford, Han Bennink, Joelle Leandre, Haino Keiji, Otomo Yoshihide, RUINS, Elliott Sharp, Bob Ostertag, Martin Tétreault, KK Null etc) have appeared at the Festival and are represented on the compilation. Here is the track information: disc one (October 9 & 10, 1996 & October 10 & 11, 1997) 1. Otomo Yoshihide, Iwasaki Tetsuji & Kojima Takashi 2. Bidziliba (Fuchigami Junko, Furutaro, Era Mari, & Funato Hiroshi) 3. Umezu Kazutoki & Otani Yasuhiro 4. Psychoacoustic (Elliott Sharp & Zeena Parkins) 5. Tanaka Yumiko, Samm Bennett & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 6. Suonomono (Akamatsu Masayuki, Yamaji Atsushi, Kitahara Keiichi & Kitahara Takayuki) 7. Ruins (Yoshida Tatsuya & Sasaki Hisashi) & Otomo Yoshihide 8. Royal Queezit (Emi Eleonola, Katsui Yuji) & Yagi Michiyo 9. Omoide Hatoba (Yamamoto Seiichi, Tsuyama Atsushi, Atari & Ogushi Takashi) 10. Tsuyama Atsushi, Takara Kumiko & Era Mari 11. Emi Eleonola & Samm Bennett 12. Bob Ostertag & Otomo Yoshihide 13. Chino Shuichi & Yamamoto Seiichi 14. Martin Tétreault & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 15. Kam-pas-nel-la (Haco, Zeena Parkins, Samm Bennett, Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 16. Leonid Soybelman, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu disc two (October 10 & 11, 1997 & November 21 & 22, 1998) 1. Hans Reichel 2. Machida Ko, Yamamoto Seiichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 3. Katsui Yuji & Kinoshita Kazushige 4. Chiku Toshiaki, Haco & Takara Kumiko 5. Makigami Koichi & Thomas Buckner 6. Hans Reichel 7. Wono Satoru & Matsuzaki Junichi 8. 30th Century (Kawabata Minoru, Inada Makoto & Yuko Nexus 6) 9. Pon (Uemura Masahiro, Hirose Junji, Takara Kumiko, Tzuboguchi Masayasu & Shimizu Rei) 10. Hikutasu (Chiku Toshiaki, Ezaki Masafumi, Sekijima Takero, Ogata Takero & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 11. Tanaka Yumiko & Kido Natsuki 12. Kingjoe (Sasaki Hideaki & Masuko Tatsuki) & Diesel Guitar 13. Happiness Proof (Haco, Tsuyama Atsushi, Christopher Stephens & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu) & Sotoyama Akira 14. Harpy (Itoken, Kyoko, Onotetsu & Suzuki) 15. Kawabata Makoto 16. Makigami Koichi & Altered States (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 17. Tzuboguchi Masayasu & Iwata Ko 18. Hans Reichel, Harada Takashi & Samm Bennett disc three (November 21 & 22, 1998 & November 20 & 21, 1999) 1. Steve Beresford & Altered States (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 2. Helge Hinteregger, Yagi Michiyo, & Era Mari 3. Haino Keiji, Tuyama Atsushi & Samm Bennett 4. Kang Tae Hwan & Enka (Uchihashi Kazuhisa & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 5. Steve Beresford 6. Chino Shuichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 7. Phantasmagoria (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Iwata Ko, Ezaki Masafumi, Ando Makiko, Inada Makoto, Kojima Takashi, Ichiraku Yoshimitsu) 8. Haino Keiji & Inada Makoto 9. Pa-pa (Inada Makoto, Katori Koichiro & Mizutani Yasuhisa) 10. Imai Kazuo 11. Ando Makiko, Yuko Nexus 6 & Unami Taku 12. Guitar Panic! (Haino Keiji, KK Null, Imahori Tsuneo & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 13. Steve Beresford 14. Haco & Coa (Eddie & Bill) 15. Yanagawa Yoshinori & Katori Koichiro 16. Ne Zhdali (Leonid Soybelman, Andrei Kulagin, Ilya Komarov, Oleg Davidovitch, Vadim Veeremaa & Vitaly Redchits) disc four (November 21 & 22, 1998 & November 18 & 19, 2000) 1. Kakitsubata (Tagawa Masayasu, Tanimoto Syunsuke, Inoue Hideki, Nakayama Hironari, Nisikawa Bunsyo) 2. Eugene Chadbourne & Samm Bennett 3. Joelle Leandre & Era Mari 4. Formant Brothers (Miwa Masahiro & Sakonda Nobuyasu) 5. Skist (Ito Haruna & Samm Bennett) & Kang Tae Hwan 6. Shelley Hirsch, Takahashi Yuji, & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 7. Eugene Chadbourne, Yamamoto Seiichi & Yagi Michiyo 8. Chou (Kimura Fumihiko, Kojima Takashi & Ezaki Masafumi) 9. Hose (Unami Taku, Hattori Reiji, Izumi Tomoya, Koike Toshihiro, Ezaki Masafumi) 10. Won Jiksoo, Yamamoto Seiichi, Kawabata Minoru & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu 11. Hannoda Taku 12. Han Bennink, Uchihashi Kazuhisa & Ezaki Masafumi 13. Mutant (Iwata Ko, Mizutani Yasuhisa, Inoue Satoshi, Uchihashi Kazuhisa) & Haco 14. Joelle Leandre, Chino Shuichi & Unami Taku 15. Fuchigami to Funato (Fuchigami Junko & Funato Hiroshi) & Tanaka Yumiko 16. Kang Tae Hwan, Yamamoto Seiichi & Inada Makoto 17. Purist (Yamamoto Seiichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) This cd set was available at the 2002 Festival. Currently, it is only available by sending $70 (U.S.) (including shipping) to Uchihashi Kazuhisa 463-305 Negishi-cho Machida-shi Tokyo, Japan That's how I got my copy. David K.

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