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Our friend Organism
by Jon Kamm 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Organism, This is why we love you. You are such a sweet guy. I am working on Mpeg4 files just for you guys. I only recently started learning how to work with video and it all takes time. The machine is fully capable of doing the work. I just need to learn how. I work hard learning new programs and doing research and hunting down rare Yello items. Just so I can get High quality Yello content to the list. So what have you been working on for the list? Hmmmm? Your posts are always so full of great Yello content. In April I posted the Tremendous Pain video in .mov format. Here is what you had to say: "ROCK!!! Very fine capture and an excellent share! Also, this is some spooky, dark output from the duo. I find that I am actually a tiny bit disturbed by it. Perhaps more accurately said, I am disconcerted by it. Still, FINE SHARE!!!!! Thank you! --gcr" There were no complaints about the .mov format back then. All I wanted everyone to know was that QT7 was available and it allows much higher quality videos. I thought everyone would be pleased. The Mac, Windows,, Linux, thing: All that is is just harmless trash talk. We always root for the home team. My team is better then your team. blah, blah, blah. We all like what we like. What is best is relative to who we are. Have a groovy day sweetie! , Jon Kamm

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RE: [Yello] Back on track
by Rory Filer 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Sometimes it's fun to think of this list as a list of "stuff by people who are big fans of Yello". If I think of it that way then I have no problem with the discussions - which are are occasionally off the direct topic of Yello. ________________________________ From: yello-bounces+rfiler=sierrawireless.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces+rfiler=sierrawireless.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jon Kamm Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:42 PM To: yello(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Yello] Back on track Hello, Now I know there has been very little Yello news lately and we are all anxious about the new re-masters coming this fall but before this gets into a Mac / PC / Linux debate I think we need to remember that this is a YELLO list and we should get back on topic. (hoping for Yello news), Jonathan

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kristal klar
by organism＠hydrophilus.com 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Jon Kamm, To be clear, I don't think that anyone is anything but delighted with your desire to share your goods with the rest of us on this list. Certain of us, however, DO object to your [conscious or not] attempt to perpetuate the perverse proprietary culture in which you yourself have proudly purchased a place. If your motive is strictly to share great quality captures with a diverse group of interested parties, then your actions will show it with the use of as common a format as possible. XviD/MP3 or XviD/OGG, or even the aforementioned MPG/MP4 formats will accomplish this very effectively. If your motive is to string people into your iReligion, then by all means, post away in QuickSlime. Just don't bawl, bitch, or bellow when you get pissed on for it. --gcr

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Jingle Video re-deux
by Jon Kamm 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

OK, I posted a version of this a while back but I was using demo software at the time. The video quality was terrible and the demo software left a water mark across the video. Well I have done a couple versions here. One in H.263(QuickTime 6) and 2 in H.264(QuickTime 7) Note:The original file was not the best quality. It was recorded from TV then transfered to a bootleg DVD which I got off eBay. But you will probably never get a chance to see this anywhere else. It is very rare. Mike , I will try doing an MPEG 4 version but the original of this file is very washed out and needs to be darkened. The MPEG 4 export features do not allow any darkening. But I am learning as I go. There may be a way to do it. Dimensions: 320 x 240 / Size: 9MB / Codecs: AAC, H.263(QuickTime 6) http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/JingleBellsH.263m.mov Dimensions: 320 x 240 / Size: 7.1MB / Codecs: AAC, H.264(QuickTime 7) http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/JingleBellsH.264m.mov Dimensions: 460 x 360 / Size: 18.8MB / Codecs: AAC, H.264(QuickTime 7) http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/JingleBellsH.264l.mov For Windows XP and Windows 2000 users download QuickTime 7 here: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/ Enjoy, Jonathan

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Re: QuickTime 7 for Windows!
by Juhana Sadeharju 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

>>I will be posting new content that will only play with QuickTime 7. >>The new codec H.264 is amazing. Incredibly clear movies with very >>small file size. H.264 sounds like the codec is a standard and could be available in other systems. Even in Linux. The big worry about using closed, proprietary formats is that the formats may not be supported in future. So, keep the originals and finals in some open format as well. I don't have quicktime because quicktime was available only via an online installer (one which takes connection to Apple and downloads the rest of the installation from their site). Could you find an exe/zip which contains the complete quicktime7? And, no internet should be needed in the computer to which I install the exe/zip package. Certainly everyone could play mpeg (standard DVD files). Open vorbis audio/video system would be something worth of trying. Could you test the vorbis video format? Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software

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Hani's The Rhythm Divine
by Jon Kamm 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Hey guys, This track has been around a while but some of you may not of heard it. It's a mix of The Rhythm Divine by Hani. He is a friend of mine and works as a DJ in New York. He has done mixes for ALICIA KEYS, FABULOUS, DURAN , ROB THOMAS, DIDO, BRANDY and is currently working on a MISSY ELLIOT mix which will be released soon. Check out his website. Hani's Site http://www.kurosh.net/2_oh/hani.html The Rhythm Divine (Hani vs. Yello) http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/TheRhythmDivine-Hani-vs-Yello.mp3 Enjoy and have a nice weekend! ,Jonathan

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Re: [Yello] our poser jonkammbot
by David Mayer 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

gcr- I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from signing up my email address to receive amateur porn. The confirmation email I got this evening contains your IP address, which matches the address in every email you send to the list. Surely there must be something better to do in Idaho. Can we get back to Yello? That's the reason we're all here. davy ----- Original Message ----- From: organism(a)hydrophilus.com To: yello(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Yello] our poser jonkammbot Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:18:16 -0700 > > Klonk Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:39:51 -0600 veschprigt mroktar "David Mayer" > <davy(a)mayer.net> [re: Re: [Yello] our poser jonkammbot]: > > > I am coming out of lurking to request organism, or gcr whatever, that you > > kindly shut the fuck up. > > Special for you! > > Ween - 12 Golden Country Greats > > Piss Up A Rope > > > Less talk, more rock. > Couldn't agree more. You're not helping. > > --gcr > > _______________________________________________ > Yello mailing list > Yello(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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David we aggree
by Jon Kamm 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

David Wrote: Hello all, I've been on the Yello list for just over ten years now, and very rarely post, preferring to read about news of new albums, etc. I am coming out of lurking to request organism, or gcr whatever, that you kindly shut the fuck up. Seriously, just give it a rest. I'd rather read spam about mortgage refinancing and penis pills. Less talk, more rock. davy ----------------------------- David, I think I can pretty safely say that everyone on this list agrees with you.

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JingleBellsH.264l.mov
by Franz Gall 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Hi, this is just to say thank you for publishing this video clip. I haven't seen this clip before. Has anybody ever seen this movie? By the way, I watched it on my PC with no problem - after upgrading to QuickTime 7 ;-)) Cheers Franz

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RE: [Yello] The Final (?) word on Quick Time 7
by Rory Filer 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

That's the third time I've seen this message. Must be coming from a Linux machine. -----Original Message----- From: yello-bounces+rfiler=sierrawireless.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces+rfiler=sierrawireless.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hurwood Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: 'The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful.' Subject: [Yello] The Final (?) word on Quick Time 7 [I've had awful trouble getting this email through. This is the third time I've emailed it off. I hope it appears on the list this time!] Hi all, Well, I've done a bit of research this afternoon on what QuickTime 7 (for the Mac) is and isn't capable of, and I've got good news for everyone. It would appear that QuickTime 7 Pro does support the creation of "pure" MPEG-4 video files, that is, files with the file extension ".mp4". This is the ISO standard and should work on Macintosh, Windows, and even on your mobile phone (so long as it doesn't exceed the screen resolution/processing power.) Windows users can install ffmpeg or another MPEG-4 codec in order to view these files in their media player of choice. QuickTime 7 for Windows would NOT be required. So that's the easy solution for everybody. Use QuickTime 7 by all means, just don't use it to create ".mov" files, create ".mp4" files instead. You'll still get all the same compression features, etc. (And incidentally, many sites I read stated that Nero Digital on a Windows PC produced better quality .MP4 files, and faster, than Quick Time 7. <grin>) Michael _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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