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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus
by Joe Bauman 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Siegfried, are you against the club chartering a bus with the understanding that everybody pays a fair share for a seat? That's how I would propose doing it. I doubt the club would have any trouble filling it. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 6:33 AM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >I'm opposed to the club paying for it Joe. That's what your idea was last >time. I'm still opposed to it. You should pay your own way. You can sell >the idea to club members. You can extend the offer to other clubs or the >public but everybody pays their share. No free rides Joe. > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> Why are you opposed to an astronomy club being involved in chartering a >> bus for a great astronomical event? >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried(a)jachmann.org> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus >> >> >> You should have no trouble selling enough tickets without the club. You >> certainly have enough time to organize it. SJ >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com >> >wrote: >> >> > >> > Maybe so, Siegfried. I don't want to squabble, but I think a charter bus >> > would be a good idea in 2017. If the club does the chartering, we should >> > have no trouble selling enough tickets to cover the cost and it would be >> a >> > lot of fun. -- Joe >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 10:05 AM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >> > >> > >No Joe. The objection was having SLAS pay for your bus. >> > > >> > > >> > >On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus >> > proposal >> > > last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how >> > impossible it >> > > would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to >> > get a >> > > bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple >> > matter >> > > to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a >> lot >> > > more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a bus >> > down >> > > and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the bid >> > was. >> > > Thanks, Joe >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ________________________________ >> > > From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> >> > > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> > > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi Brent, >> > > >> > > While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in practice >> > for >> > > last year's annular. >> > > >> > > Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to get >> > the >> > > word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to the >> > > media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed. >> > > >> > > What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work >> out >> > > details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to observe >> > the >> > > eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab >> at >> > > that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those >> > details >> > > (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus never >> > > happened. >> > > >> > > Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as I >> > > mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the >> centerline >> > > will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea. >> > > >> > > patrick >> > > >> > > >> > > On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote: >> > > >> > > > Joe, >> > > > >> > > > It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not >> rent a >> > > bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on >> an >> > > organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then >> share >> > the >> > > cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party >> of >> > it, >> > > and those along would have a great time. >> > > > >> > > > Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be >> taken >> > > at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination >> > > intended. >> > > > >> > > > Brent >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > >> > > Send messages to the list to >> > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > > >> > > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> > club. >> > > >> > > To unsubscribe go to: >> > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > >> > > Send messages to the list to >> > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > > >> > > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> > club. >> > > >> > > To unsubscribe go to: >> > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >Siegfried >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > >> > >Send messages to the list to >> > >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > > >> > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> > > >> > >To unsubscribe go to: >> > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Siegfried >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >-- >Siegfried >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by Joe Bauman 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Aug. 3 is fine. Just remind us old coots a little before. Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 4:09 PM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >John, we usually talk about astronomy, telescope making & astro-imaging, >other branches of science, history, aviation, pretty much anything. >Astronomy is the common interest among us, but it turns out we share many >other interests as well. Several amatuer radio operators often attend. >They are the ones who set up a Yagi on the chair next to them. > >We also talk about other SLASers behind their backs and point out their >foibles, always a great source of amusement. > >You can even bring something for show-and-tell. Your latest eyepiece or >astro-gadget, for example. Spouses and well-behaved children are >welcome. Well, since I attend, I guess poorly-behaved children can come >too. We have members from age 1 to 80, and everything in-between. > >Sub-director Bau has put it very well; we do only have that one rule. Thou >Shalt Not Disparage The Liver & Onions, Or Those Who Consume It. Spouses >who don't like it can rag on you all the home in the car, however. That's >perfectly acceptable. > >It started out as a semi-regular luncheon for SLAS friends who enjoy liver >and onions but has grown to include other people who's sense of taste isn't >quite as refined. > >The fresh-baked pies at our current venue are especially tasty, as well. > >It's looking like August 3rd is the date most people can commit to, so >let's plan it then. > >Left Fork Grill >68 West 3900 South >South Salt Lake > >Noon. I'll call in the morning on the 3rd and have them reserve our >table. Plenty of on-site parking is available. > >Hope to see you all there! > >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Josh <mountaindrifter(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Aug 3rd for me. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > Just to let our tastebuds celebrate. It's the Salt Lake Gastronomical >> > Society. -- I.e., amateur astronomer friends who enjoy the finer tastes >> in >> > life. You are welcome even if you (for some unfathomable reason) don't >> want >> > liver & onions. The only restriction is the cardinal rule: you may not >> hold >> > your nose, make snider comments or otherwise hassle the liver lovers >> among >> > us. -- Joe >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 3:59 PM MDT John M. Craig wrote: >> > >> > >Some of us newbies aren't familiar with the, uh, shall we say raison >> > d'eatre--I mean--etre. Is this kinda like "Advanced Training"? (And, yes, >> > I'm sorry for the feeble attempt at a pun, but not sorry enough to edit >> it >> > out.) >> > > >> > >Can one of you connoisseurs clue in the clueless? >> > > >> > >John >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Retail Astronomy in Utah
by jcarman6＠q.com 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Larry and Chuck have both made excellent points. Perhaps I should have written "just for profit business." Making a profit isn't bad or sinful, its appropriate and fair - when it is reasonable. It's only my opinion, but Meade lost its focus when it went public. Going after profit at the expense of quality, reputation and customer service. I haven't forgotten the 750 Billion "bailout" of Wall Street foisted on America by GWB. As soon as the money flowed in, CEOs and top level managers took huge multi-million "bonuses" straight from the bailout as a pat on the back for managing the companies so poorly.

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Hubble images ISON
by Daniel Holmes 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Found this. It's a composite of two images, ISON actually moved between exposures. But check out the galaxies! http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/hs-media/comet_ison_blog_entry/featured_ima… Dan -- Sent from an iPad. There should be less mispelings, but more errors.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Retail Astronomy in Utah
by Larry Holmes 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

On 7/8/2013 5:27 PM, Larry Holmes wrote: > On 7/8/2013 12:46 PM, jcarman6(a)q.com wrote: >> I always had a bad attitude about Scoop City. (Old SLAS joke, but based on real event). For a number a years a group of SLAS members attended the Riverside Telescope Makers Convention in Big Bear, California in mass. Back then (80s) all the dealers would set up booths and you could get all kinds of accessories or scopes at bargain basement prices - not to mention the swap meet (opps I mentioned it). Worth the trip in and of it self. Got my 10X50 binos from Celestron for $30. Well, one year one of the dealers had a hugh selection of eyes pieces for incredible prices, but before anyone could get to the booth, Scope City bought EVERYTHING and turned around and tried to sell it to the attendees at twice the price. The situation spread like wildfire through the attendees and Scoop City ended up taking a lot of accessories back to their stores. I know that was ages ago, but always had a bad feeling about the company ever since. The fact they have failed to send the final >> scope today just bolsters the history. >> >> >> >> Hate to see Meade going in the same direction, but that's what happens when it is just business for profit. > >> Joan, I agree with most of what you posted, except the last sentence. Pretty hard to operate a not-for-profit business. I just watched a video on a 179 employee family owened (many years) manufacturing company close their doors because the governmental driven cost of operating outgrew their income. I doubt the Meade owners want to see it go down the tubes, either. 73 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >

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Surplus Shed Sale Alert
by Chuck Hards 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

47% off for the next three days only. You must use coupon code SS17713 at checkout. http://www.surplusshed.com/

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by Joe Bauman 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

July 20 sounds good. But we'll happily go to either. -- Thanks, Bau ------------------------------ On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 3:31 PM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >Either one > > > >On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's been a while, so lets plan the next one. Please join Sub-Director >> Bau, General Secretary Larry, myself (El Presidente Grande), and all the >> distinguished regulars for a meeting of the scientifically, gentlemanly >> elite of the greater Salt Lake area. We took a vote and decided that we're >> a pretty good-looking bunch too. >> >> I've got two Saturdays free in the next couple of weeks, so for those who >> enjoy attending our little get-togethers, which works better for you: >> >> This coming Saturday, July 20th >> >> -or- >> >> Saturday, August 3rd >> >> I'm assuming a start time of noon, though 11:30 is OK as well. >> >> Post-up on your preferrence and we'll go with the majority. If neither of >> those dates work for the majority, we'll go for something later in August. >> July 27th won't work for me personally. Although if it does work for >> everyone else then I'll see what strings I can pull. >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >-- >Siegfried >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by John M. Craig 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

Some of us newbies aren't familiar with the, uh, shall we say raison d'eatre--I mean--etre. Is this kinda like "Advanced Training"? (And, yes, I'm sorry for the feeble attempt at a pun, but not sorry enough to edit it out.) Can one of you connoisseurs clue in the clueless? John

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Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by Chuck Hards 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

It's been a while, so lets plan the next one. Please join Sub-Director Bau, General Secretary Larry, myself (El Presidente Grande), and all the distinguished regulars for a meeting of the scientifically, gentlemanly elite of the greater Salt Lake area. We took a vote and decided that we're a pretty good-looking bunch too. I've got two Saturdays free in the next couple of weeks, so for those who enjoy attending our little get-togethers, which works better for you: This coming Saturday, July 20th -or- Saturday, August 3rd I'm assuming a start time of noon, though 11:30 is OK as well. Post-up on your preferrence and we'll go with the majority. If neither of those dates work for the majority, we'll go for something later in August. July 27th won't work for me personally. Although if it does work for everyone else then I'll see what strings I can pull.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus
by Joe Bauman 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

Maybe so, Siegfried. I don't want to squabble, but I think a charter bus would be a good idea in 2017. If the club does the chartering, we should have no trouble selling enough tickets to cover the cost and it would be a lot of fun. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 10:05 AM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >No Joe. The objection was having SLAS pay for your bus. > > >On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus proposal >> last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how impossible it >> would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to get a >> bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple matter >> to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a lot >> more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a bus down >> and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the bid was. >> Thanks, Joe >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus >> >> >> Hi Brent, >> >> While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in practice for >> last year's annular. >> >> Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to get the >> word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to the >> media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed. >> >> What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work out >> details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to observe the >> eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab at >> that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those details >> (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus never >> happened. >> >> Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as I >> mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the centerline >> will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea. >> >> patrick >> >> >> On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote: >> >> > Joe, >> > >> > It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not rent a >> bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on an >> organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then share the >> cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party of it, >> and those along would have a great time. >> > >> > Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be taken >> at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination >> intended. >> > >> > Brent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >-- >Siegfried >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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