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Retail Telescope Stores
by D P Pierce 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

Before we started doing the North Rim Grand Canyon Star Parties we went to the South Rim version for 2 years. The first year we started with 2 nights at a star party at Red Rock State Park outside Sedona. In Sedona was a store called something like Sedona Telescopes and Vacuum Cleaners. They had been running ads in the astro mags. I had to go see for myself. I expected to see a shop with lots of vacuum cleaners and 4 or 5 telescopes. I was surprised to find the opposite. They did repairs on vacuums which helped them compete with Walmart in Cottonwood 10 miles away, They had both Meade and Celestron telescopes, In a glass display case with very bright lights to show off the highly polished brass tube was a 5 inch Alvin Clarke refractor. It had hung in a canvas bag from the rafters of an old barn for as long as anyone could remember. Nobody knew what was in it until the barn was being torn down. A poster sized cartoon was in the front window of a man running a vacuum cleaner across the 30 foot objective of a refractor which was pointed straight up. The caption was "We vacuum the universe". The store doesn't seem to be around anymore. I'm glad I visited it . Deloy

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best manned mission site
by Gary Vardon 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

There are carters on the lunar poles that are permanently shaded and believed to have water. They would be an excellent place for a mission possibly manned. The water could sustain life for a prolong stay on the moon. Sincerely, Gary Vardon The book DO It Right will help you understand vital ideas leading to your greater success. GO to PublishAmerica.com Consulting For Profit is also available. Learn how to make money as a consultant. Jokes? is a wild and witty look at the world and the mbook Marketing can show you how to make good money selling goods and services. All books are available at PublishAmerica.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] best manned mission site
by Joe Bauman 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

YES! I volunteer! ------------------------------ On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 11:38 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >Dave, you do realize that anybody going to Mars with Larry is going to get >liver and onions, not hot dogs. > >On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Dave Gary <davegary(a)me.com> wrote: > >> The knowledge gained from probes has been astounding, plus they don’t ask >> for raises, wonder about their families, stress over whether the space >> toilet works or not or have a psychic schism when Larry offers them their >> 5000th frozen hot dog for dinner half-way through the flight. Sending men >> into space (other than someone like me, living in St. George is almost as >> if I’m on Mars) is a waste of time and resources. Besides, I really like >> hot dogs. >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Takahashi EM 200 Temma 2
by gazebo4sale＠comcast.net 20 Jul '13

20 Jul '13

Hi, I am wondering if any of you are using a Tak EM200 Temma 2 for imaging. I bought one and am hoping to lessen the steepness of the learning curve. Thanks Steve Gallenson

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Return of Jupiter and Mars
by Chuck Hards 20 Jul '13

20 Jul '13

It's been generally so cloudy in the early mornings lately that it took me by surprise when I spotted Jupiter and Mars coming over the mountains early this morning.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] best manned mission site
by Gary Vardon 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

I was referring to lunar craters. Another obvious advantage to a lunar mission is that it is closer so less costly and is easier to return from. Sincerely, Gary Vardon The book DO It Right will help you understand vital ideas leading to your greater success. GO to PublishAmerica.com Consulting For Profit is also available. Learn how to make money as a consultant. Jokes? is a wild and witty look at the world and the mbook Marketing can show you how to make good money selling goods and services. All books are available at PublishAmerica.com

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Neptune
by Mark Shelton 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

Hubble finds new Neptune moon NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has discovered a new moon orbiting the distant blue-green planet Neptune, the 14th known to be circling the giant planet. The moon, designated S/2004 N 1, is estimated to be no more than 12 miles (19 kilometers) across, making it the smallest known moon in the neptunian system. It is so small and dim that it is roughly 100 million times fainter than the faintest star that can be seen with the naked eye. It even escaped detection by NASA's Voyager 2 spacecraft, which flew past Neptune in 1989 and surveyed the planet's system of moons and rings Mark Sent from my iPad

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by Joe Bauman 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

Just to let our tastebuds celebrate. It's the Salt Lake Gastronomical Society. -- I.e., amateur astronomer friends who enjoy the finer tastes in life. You are welcome even if you (for some unfathomable reason) don't want liver & onions. The only restriction is the cardinal rule: you may not hold your nose, make snider comments or otherwise hassle the liver lovers among us. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 3:59 PM MDT John M. Craig wrote: >Some of us newbies aren't familiar with the, uh, shall we say raison d'eatre--I mean--etre. Is this kinda like "Advanced Training"? (And, yes, I'm sorry for the feeble attempt at a pun, but not sorry enough to edit it out.) > >Can one of you connoisseurs clue in the clueless? > >John > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Liver & Onions Subcommittee
by Joe Bauman 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

So now Rich is a dolphin? ------------------------------ On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 12:00 PM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >Have fun, Rich, the Baltic should be stunning during high summer. >Remember to tell your hosts when you leave, >"So long and thanks for all the fish". ;-) > >On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Richard Tenney <retenney(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I'll be mingling with my wife's Swedish kin on the isle of Gotland in the >> Baltic Sea on the 3rd, but I'll be thinking of y'all whilst dining on, oh, >> herring or cod most likely ;o) >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus
by Joe Bauman 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

EVERYBODY PLEASE NOTE: I have had a complaint from a very sensitive person about these discussions. I pledged to that person not to get into any further public wrangles along these lines until 2015. I intend to keep my promise. Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 6:18 PM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >Are you willing to let the club make some money if it takes the risk? > > > >On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> Siegfried, are you against the club chartering a bus with the >> understanding that everybody pays a fair share for a seat? That's how I >> would propose doing it. I doubt the club would have any trouble filling it. >> -- Joe >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 6:33 AM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >> >> >I'm opposed to the club paying for it Joe. That's what your idea was last >> >time. I'm still opposed to it. You should pay your own way. You can sell >> >the idea to club members. You can extend the offer to other clubs or the >> >public but everybody pays their share. No free rides Joe. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com >> >wrote: >> > >> > Why are you opposed to an astronomy club being involved in chartering a >> > bus for a great astronomical event? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried(a)jachmann.org> >> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:09 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus >> > >> > >> > You should have no trouble selling enough tickets without the club. You >> > certainly have enough time to organize it. SJ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com >> > >wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Maybe so, Siegfried. I don't want to squabble, but I think a charter >> bus >> > > would be a good idea in 2017. If the club does the chartering, we >> should >> > > have no trouble selling enough tickets to cover the cost and it would >> be >> > a >> > > lot of fun. -- Joe >> > > >> > > ------------------------------ >> > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 10:05 AM MDT Siegfried Jachmann wrote: >> > > >> > > >No Joe. The objection was having SLAS pay for your bus. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus >> > > proposal >> > > > last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how >> > > impossible it >> > > > would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to >> > > get a >> > > > bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple >> > > matter >> > > > to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a >> > lot >> > > > more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a >> bus >> > > down >> > > > and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the >> bid >> > > was. >> > > > Thanks, Joe >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________ >> > > > From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> >> > > > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01 PM >> > > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Hi Brent, >> > > > >> > > > While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in >> practice >> > > for >> > > > last year's annular. >> > > > >> > > > Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to >> get >> > > the >> > > > word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to >> the >> > > > media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed. >> > > > >> > > > What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work >> > out >> > > > details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to >> observe >> > > the >> > > > eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab >> > at >> > > > that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those >> > > details >> > > > (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus >> never >> > > > happened. >> > > > >> > > > Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as >> I >> > > > mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the >> > centerline >> > > > will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea. >> > > > >> > > > patrick >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Joe, >> > > > > >> > > > > It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not >> > rent a >> > > > bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely >> on >> > an >> > > > organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then >> > share >> > > the >> > > > cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party >> > of >> > > it, >> > > > and those along would have a great time. >> > > > > >> > > > > Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be >> > taken >> > > > at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination >> > > > intended. >> > > > > >> > > > > Brent >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > > >> > > > Send messages to the list to >> > > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > > > >> > > > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> > > club. >> > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe go to: >> > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > > > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > > > >> > > > Send messages to the list to >> > > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > > > >> > > > The 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