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Treadmill, not potty
by Patrick Wiggins 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

According to a release from NASA the new station segment will honor the Apollo 11 mission and be named "Tranquility". Rumors about naming the toilet for Stephen Colbert proved inaccurate. Instead the station's treadmill will be renamed the "Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill". The Colbert Report airs tonight (Tuesday) at midnight on the Comedy Channel. Grins, patrick

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P-Waves imaged from Italy earthquake by satellite
by Canopus56 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

http://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEM4PJ9NJTF_environment_1.html Clear Skies - Kurt

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(no subject)
by Canopus56 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Jim wrote: > Kurt, I don't think there has been but 1 or 2 nights clear enough for observing since your last list. > Maybe that is why you have time to put together such a monster list…lol. Jim Naa. I'm not happy with the starting point list. It's too long. I think it will shrink considerably by the time I and others are done testing it out. lol - kurt P.S. - Since the weather is bad, I'm starting on the Vir to Her candidate list.

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member loaner scope vs school subsidy
by Roger Butz 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Kim.Hi Buddy, how is life? Good! I sincerely hope!Yes you are absolutely correct A SLAS Member/Teacher may check out a telescope and use it as they deem appropriate, the problem as I see it is: if many SLAS members borrowed club loaner equipment to assist in the performance of their job's we would be hard pressed to have any "in stock" for the new member's which have accounted for at least 85 to 90% of the persons borrowing them in the last decade + that I've been doing this.It just seems to me it could to turn into a mess. On another note, the soil and sod is in along the new concrete at SPOC. We cut in the missing expansion joints on the new slabs as well. Weather has'nt allowed the concrete sealer as yet. We have re installed the caution tape along the sides of the sod as the rain has made it very soggy, it likley will not dry by saturday's star party.Hopefully weather will allow a gathering at Wheeler Farm on friday, if so we'll see you there.my best to you all.Roger --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Kim <kimharch(a)cut.net> wrote: From: Kim <kimharch(a)cut.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Fw: Re: Telescope donation To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:52 PM I have to agree with both Rodger and Roger on this. A first-time user such as a student would benefit, anyway, from having experienced supervision. Sooooo, any SLAS-member/teacher who wants to borrow a scope to help students is certainly welcome to give them instructions using a SLAS loaner scope - right? And, any truly inspired student always has the option to come to public star parties, even bring a personal scope along, and receive personal attention. I haven't ever tried to curate SLAS-owned scopes or equipment of any kind, but I suspect the job Roger has taken on can be wearisome. I know it would be so for me. Kim > -----Original Message----- > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy- > bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rodger C. Fry > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:35 PM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Fw: Re: Telescope donation > > I think that the SLAS loaner scope policy is based on sound principle and > shouldn't be modified. I think if we start loaning telescopes to teachers > with the understanding that their students will use these will be a real > problem. I think if a teacher wants to inspire the students to get > involved > in astronomy there are other resources for the teacher including our > School > Star Party program. > > For what it is worth > > Rodger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Butz" <dutchbutz(a)yahoo.com> > To: <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:28 PM > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Fw: Re: Telescope donation > > > > > > > utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > On 14 Apr 2009, at 10:57, Roger Butz wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Patrick mentioned a discussion about loaning club equipment to schools > and > > school kids and has asked me to comment , I've only seen one comment > from > > Chuck re guarding loaning club scopes to students so I am not privy to > any > > other discussion on the subject. > > The slas policy is : a person must be a slas member, at least 18 years > old > > and cannot transfer club equipment to any other individual ,even another > > club member. > > There are numerous reasons for the different policies for borrowing club > > equipment that we have in acted over the years as way of addressing a > > myriad of issues and problems that seem to crop up, We have made changes > > or revisions as they were appropriate. > > Often what may seem like a good idea on the surface ends up creating > > bigger problems in the long run. > > I used to do a Lot of School star parties myself when I lived in the > salt > > lake valley, and personally have rebuilt or retrofitted dozens of small > > 2ND hand telescopes and given them to kids or schools over the years, I > am > > working on 2 right now, so I am of like mind that any chance to inspire > a > > child to think of something other than text messaging is always a good > > thing , however as slas curator I see loaning slas scopes to kids, > > schools, or teachers to be used in a school program as a nightmare on > > every level. Damage, Tracking, Liability and Theft to name a few off the > > top of my head. and such a policy opens a revolving door that in my > > opinion would create many many headaches for slas and its curator. > > Free loaner scopes to schools or school kids? where would it end ? A > > hundred scopes would soon not be enough, it would spread like opening > the > > observatory up to private boy scout Merritt badge projects. Having them > > come to a public star party takes care of a lot of these needs, we do > > dozens a year for this reason. > > The SLAS Loaner scope program is set up as a benefit for SLAS members.A > > loaner program for the county or private school systems should be funded > > and run by the county. Just the repair and replacement of scopes and > parts > > would become a full time job very quickly. Any project like this might > be > > better handled separately from slas, similarly to the NASA ambassador > > program or the like. > > Any way as you can tell I am once again with out an opinion. > > Respectfully, Roger the Dodger > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.56/2058 - Release Date: > 4/14/2009 6:17 AM > No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Re: [Utah-astronomy] member loaner scope vs school subsidy
by JayLEads 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Still off topic but at this link http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4654062 are four recordings similar to Patrick's. One is where a controller interacts with an airliner that is about to land at Newark with its landing gear up. Another is of a controller helping a pilot who is losing control of her plane within 100 feet of the ground. Another controller helps a daughter of a pilot who is incapacitated land the Piper Malibu they are in. Finally a controller helps to avert a collision of two planes over Southern California. Fun times . . . well interesting to be sure. Jay On 2009-04-15 07:07, Patrick Wiggins wrote: > I think I'll chime in here and agree with Roger. While I've no > problem with teachers or students joining SLAS and borrowing > telescopes I'm not sure we should really push the program with the > schools. Having served as the telescope custodian in the past I know > how much work there is involved with the program as it is and fear > Roger could easily become overwhelmed were he suddenly to be > confronted with a bunch of new requests. > > I could see us (SLAS) maybe holding classes which SLAS members could > attend to be come familiar with simple scopes which could lead to > those taking the class buying scopes of their own. Maybe SLAS could > even work a deal whereby those taking the class could get some sort of > discount on the purchase. > > Perhaps this could be discussed at tomorrow's SLAS board meeting? > > Cheers, > > patrick > > p.s. As long as I have your attention, here's an audio clip some of > you may enjoy. Off topic to be sure but you might enjoy it anyway, > especially if you've ever wondered what might happen if the pilot of > the plane you're riding in suddenly became "unavailable": http:// tinyurl.com/deb23a > > >

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List of objects in RA sequence
by Jim Gibson 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Here is a list of objects sorted by RA which means it is also ordered by month or time of year. Currently at sunset our meridian is about RA 8. If you look on the list you will find M48 (as well as others) as a possible object of interest right after sun down. http://www.astropix.com/HTML/L_STORY/STARLIST/starlist.php Jim

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Colorful Doubles - Hya to Crt - Candidate List
by Jim Gibson 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Kurt, I don't think there has been but 1 or 2 nights clear enough for observing since your last list. Maybe that is why you have time to put together such a monster list…lol. Jim --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Canopus56 <canopus56(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: Canopus56 <canopus56(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Colorful Doubles - Hya to Crt - Candidate List To: "Utah Astronomy List Serv" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 11:56 PM The following is a provisional observing list with respect to my continuing color-contrast-doubles urban-astronomy interest. These are potential targets that need review for confirmation whether they are visible from urban locations. There is a paucity of bright color contrast pairs in this region crossing the north galactic pole and local chimney. Therefore, this potential target list is fainter than my previous Mon to Cnc contrast double list and may be more appropriate for suburban locations. This observing list was developed by reviewing color contrast double lists such as Mullaney, Haas and Belmont and then preparing a list of candidate targets. The candidate list will be reviewed using a 4 1/4 inch short GOTO reflector from an urban light polluted site to determine the practicality of seeing the objects from an urban setting. This list was also expanded to include prominent carbon stars in this observing frame. Any testing and corrections by interested double star observers would be welcomed and appreciated. The raw list is also available as an autostar tour: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/tours/Hya_to_Crt_AutoStar_… This post is a continuation of my posts that concerning on my current observing focus: "after-work urban-astronomy". Urban astronomy focuses on using easily set up GOTO scopes across for seasons to view astronomical objects from urban light-polluted skies. As opposed to deep sky object emphasis, urban astronomy concerns bright objects visible with small apetures e.g. - open clusters, double stars, planetary and solar system objects. Having family, friend and work obligations like the rest of you, I will try to limit referenced targets to those observable prior to local midnight. Clear Skies - Kurt =============== ID SAO116552 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1210, HIP40473 Comments 7.3v, 9.5v,15.8sep,113pa,2002,Haas:optical white-bluegreen,B9.5IV RA 081549 Dec +024758 Observing Notes ID SAO117001 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1255, HIP42491 Comments 7.3v,8.6v,26.2sep,30pa,2004,Haas: azure-white_pearly-white,-,G1V RA 083945 Dec +054612 Observing Notes ID SAO136221 Constellation Hya AltNames F Hya, HIP42835, HD74395 Comments 4.7v,8.2v,79.0.sep,311pa,2002,Haas: showcase superwide pair sun-yellow-aquamarine,-,G1I RA 084340 Dec -071401 Observing Notes ID SAO117112 Constellation Hya AltNames eps Hya, HIP43109, HD74874 Comments 3.5v,6.7v,3.0sep,299pa,2004,Smyth: yellow-purple,-,F8V RA 084647 Dec +062508 Observing Notes ID SAO136345 Constellation Hya AltNames 15 Hya, HIP43496, HD75737 Comments 5.5v,9.7v,45.7sep,5sep,1998,Smyth: white-purplish Haas: quad,-,A4 RA 085134 Dec -071038 Observing Notes ID SAO14788 Constellation UMa AltNames omi2 STF1306, HIP45038, HD78154 Comments 4.9v,8.9v,4sep,352pa,2004,Webb:Greenish...,-,F7V RA 091023 Dec +670805 Observing Notes ID SAO14809 Constellation UMa AltNames STF1315, HIP45208, HD78766 Comments 7.3v,7.7v,24.7sep,27pa,2000,Optical Haas:wide white-green;-,A3IV RA 091247 Dec +614054 Observing Notes Optical ID SAO117527 Constellation Hya AltNames the Hya, HIP45336, HD79469 Comments 4.6v,7.3v,66.2sep,-,2002,Haas:yellow-red,-,F6V RA 091422 Dec +021851 Observing Notes ID SAO136768 Constellation Hya AltNames 27 Hya, HIP45811, HD80586 Comments 4.9v,7.0v,229.1sep,212pa,2002,Haas:grapefruit-orange_plum-red,-,F6V RA 092029 Dec -093321 Observing Notes ID SAO42825 Constellation UMa AltNames STF1340, HIP45974, HD80608 Comments 7.1v,9.0v,6.2sep,319pa,1998,Haas:white_artic-blue,-,B9.5V RA 092232 Dec +493242 Observing Notes ID SAO117640 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1347, HIP46028 Comments 7.3v,8.3v,21.2sep,312pa,2002,Haas:White-blue optical,-,F0 RA 092315 Dec +033019 Observing Notes ID SAO117661 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1348, HIP46134, HD81212 Comments 7.5v,7.6v,1.9sep,317pa,2004,Haas: Part of quad - two identical white pairs,-,F7V RA 092428 Dec +062100 Observing Notes STF1355 is second twin ID SAO117704 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1355, HIP46367, HD81670 Comments 7.7v,7.8,1.9sec,352pa,2004,Haas: Part of quad - two indentical white pairs,-,F7V RA 092717 Dec +061359 Observing Notes STF1348 is first twin ID SAO42876 Constellation UMa AltNames HD81688, HIP46471 Comments 5.5v,7.8v,71.8sep,161pa,1999,Mislabeled in Haas as 41 UMa lemon-yellow_bluish_turqoise,-,K0III-IV RA 092840 Dec +453606 Observing Notes ID SAO117751 Constellation Leo AltNames 6 Leo, HIP46774, HD82381 Comments 5.2v,9.3v,37.4sep,2000,Haas:red-faintsecond,-,K3III RA 093158 Dec +094257 Observing Notes ID SAO117792 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1371, HIP47058, HD82994 Comments 7.9v, 10.2v,8.1sep,275pa,2000,Haas:yellow Herschel:sec red,-,G0 RA 093525 Dec +035418 Observing Notes ID SAO98662 Constellation Leo AltNames 7 Leo, HIP47096, HD83023 Comments 6.3v,9.4v,41.0sep,80pa,2003,Haas: bluish-whitewithblue-green,-,A1VI RA 093553 Dec +142247 Observing Notes ID SAO117871 Constellation Sex AltNames STF1377, HIP47693, HD84184 Comments 7.5v,10.5v,4.2sep,137pa,2000,Smyth:yellowish-white_blue,-,F7V RA 094327 Dec +023739 Observing Notes ID SAO98769 Constellation Leo AltNames R Leo, HIP48036, HD84748 Comments 4.4vto10.5v,-,-,-,Mullaney: Strong red variable star,-,M7III-M9III RA 094734 Dec +112544 Observing Notes ID HD85752 Constellation Hya AltNames Comments 7.8v,9.4v,8.3sep,82pa,1999,Haas:yellow-blue,-,G8-KOIII RA 095330 Dec -192916 Observing Notes ID SAO117980 Constellation Sex AltNames 9 Sex, HIP48552, HD85762 Comments 6.9v,8.4v,52.5sep,287pa,2004,Haas:tangerine-blue,superwide,-,M0_K0 RA 095407 Dec +045644 Observing Notes ID SAO98859 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1399, HIP48786 Comments 7.6v,8.4v,41sep,80pa,2003,Haas:blue-white_blue-green,-,A1V RA 095702 Dec +194514 Observing Notes ID SAO98967 Constellation Leo AltNames alf Leo, HIP49669 Comments 1.4v,8.2v,176sep,308pa,2000,Haas:white-smokeball,superwide,-,B7V RA 100822 Dec +115802 Observing Notes ID SAO81299 Constellation Leo AltNames gam01 Leo, HIP50583 Comments 2.4v,3.6v,4.6sep,127sep,2004,Haas:Showcase pair,Smyth:orange-greenish-yellow,-,K0III RA 101959 Dec +195026 Observing Notes ID SAO62021 Constellation LMi AltNames STF1374, HIP47527, HD90068 Comments 7.3v, 8.7v,3sep,309pa,2003,Haas:lemon-yellow-w-powder-blue,-,G3IV RA 102422 Dec +341034 Observing Notes ID SAO118292 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1431, HIP51036, HD90303 Comments 7.8v,9.1v,3.3sep,73pa,2003,Webb:white-blue,-,A8III RA 102535 Dec +084635 Observing Notes w/i 30 arcsec 44 Leo ID SAO81415 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1447, HIP51699, HD91427 Comments 7.5v,8.9v,4.4sep,124pa,2001,Haas:lemon-white_smokeball,-,A2 RA 103347 Dec +232101 Observing Notes ID SAO156110 Constellation Hya AltNames U Hya, HIP52009, HD92055 Comments 4.9v,Mullaney: very red carbon star,0.160parsecs,C* RA 103733 Dec -132304 Observing Notes ID SAO118449 Constellation Sex AltNames 35 Sex, HIP52452, HD92841 Comments 6.2v,7.1v,6.7sep,241pa,2004,Smyth:topaz-yellow_smalt-blue,-,K3III_K0III RA 104321 Dec +044452 Observing Notes ID SAO15274 Constellation UMa AltNames VY UMa, HIP52577, HD92839 Comments 5.9v,,,,,Mullaney: orange carbon star,0.34kpc,C* RA 104504 Dec +672441 Observing Notes ID SAO62236 Constellation LMi AltNames 42 LMi, HIP52638, HD93152 Comments 5.3v,7.8v,198.1sep,196.5pa,2002,Haas:white-green-white-superwide,-,A1V RA 104552 Dec +304056 Observing Notes ID SAO179278 Constellation Hya AltNames V Hya, HIP53085 Comments 6.5v-9.5v,-,-,-,French:variable carbon star,-,- RA 105137 Dec -211502 Observing Notes ID SAO81583 Constellation Leo AltNames 54 Leo, HIP53417, HD94601 Comments 4.5v,6.3v,6.3sep,111pa,2003,Haas:showcase banana-yellow_sapphire_blue,-,A1V A2V RA 105537 Dec +244459 Observing Notes ID SAO15384 Constellation UMa AltNames alf Uma, HIP54061 Comments 2.0v,7.0v,318sep,204pa,1991,Haas:wide orange_w_almondbrown,-,G9III-F8 RA 110344 Dec +614503 Observing Notes ID SAO81727 Constellation Leo AltNames del Leo, HIP54872 Comments 2.6v,8.6v,203.9sep,342pa,1999,Haas:banana-yellow_silver,-,A4V RA 111406 Dec +203125 Observing Notes ID SAO138106 Constellation Crt AltNames B 600, HD98088 Comments 6.2v, 8.2v, 54.3sep, 99pa, 2002, yellow-green,-,A8IV RA 111658 Dec -070806 Observing Notes ID SAO62484 Constellation UMa AltNames ksi UMa, STF1523 Comments 4.3v, 4.8v,1.7sep,245pa,2004,Mullaney:two yellow,-,F9V-G0V RA 111811 Dec +313145 Observing Notes ID SAO99587 Constellation Leo AltNames iot Leo, HIP55642, HD99028 Comments 2.4v,3.6v,4.6sep,127pa,2004,Haaas:Showcase,grapefruit-orange,-,K0III RA 112355 Dec +103145 Observing Notes ID SAO156661 Constellation Crt AltNames gam Crt, HIP55705, HD99211 Comments 4.1v, 7.9v, 5.3sep, 93pa, 1968, Haas: showcase white-grey,-,A0V RA 112453 Dec -174102 Observing Notes ID SAO99601 Constellation Leo AltNames 81 Leo, HIP55765, HD99285 Comments 5.6v,10.8v,55.1sep,2pa,1998,Haas: yellow-red,-,F2V RA 112536 Dec +162723 Observing Notes ID SAO118864 Constellation Leo AltNames 83 Leo, HIP55846, HD99491 Comments 6.6v,7.5v,28.6sep,150pa,2004,Haas:Splendid double-double,yellow-white_grey,-,G7V RA 112645 Dec +030047 Observing Notes optical, w/i 1 deg field with tau Leo ID SAO118875 Constellation Leo AltNames tau Leo, HIP55945, HD99648 Comments 5.1v,7.5v,88.9sep,181pa,2004,Haas:Splendid double-double,lemon-grey,-,G8II-III RA 112756 Dec +025122 Observing Notes w/i 1 deg field with 83 Leo ID SAO179935 Constellation Crt AltNames jc 16 Crt, HD99922 Comments 5.8v, 8.6v,8.2sep,82pa,2000,Haas: yellow-sliver,-,A0V RA 112939 Dec -242748 Observing Notes ID SAO99648 Constellation Leo AltNames 88 Leo, HIP56242, HD100180 Comments 6.3v,9.1v,15.4sep,331pa,2004,Smyth:yellow-lilac,-,G0IV RA 113145 Dec +142152 Observing Notes ID SAO179968 Constellation Hya AltNames 17 Crt, N Hya, HIP56280, HD100287 Comments 5.8v, 6.7v, 9.4sep,200pa,2003,Haas: showcase orange-orange,-,F8V F8V RA 113216 Dec -291540 Observing Notes ID SAO202717 Constellation Hya AltNames h 4465, HD101666 Comments 5.4v,8.3v,66.1sep,44pa,1999,Gould: red-gold_yellow,-,K5III RA 114144 Dec -322959 Observing Notes ID SAO81998 Constellation Leo AltNames 93 Leo, HIP57565, HD102509 Comments 4.6v,9.0v,71.4sep,357sep,2002,Haas: Grand sight. Webb:yellow-white,-,A7 RA 114759 Dec +201308 Observing Notes ID SAO156896 Constellation Crt AltNames H VI 115, HD102574 Comments 6.3v, 9.2v, 89.9sep, 82pa,2000,Haas: pale peach with nebulous secondary,-,-,F2V RA 114824 Dec -101848 Observing Notes ID SAO43945 Constellation UMa AltNames 65 UMa, STF1579, HIP58112, HD103483 Comments 6.7v,7.0v,63.2sep,114pa,2002,Haas:white-yellow part of quad,-,- RA 115506 Dec +462837 Observing Notes ID SAO44002 Constellation UMa AltNames 67 UMa, HD104513, HIP58684 Comments 5.2v,6.7v,278.5sep,62pa,2002,Haas:sun-yellow_lemon-yellow Part of Quad WDS,-,A7 RA 120207 Dec +430245 Observing Notes ID SAO28737 Constellation UMa AltNames zet01 UMa, STF1744, HIP65378 Comments 2.2v,4.0,708.5sep,71pa,1991,Haas:showcase, Smyth:white-emerald,0.024kpc,AV-A5V RA 132356 Dec +545531 Observing Notes ID SAO182855 Constellation Hya AltNames 54 Hya, HIP72197, HD129926 Comments 5.1v7.3v,8.1sep,124pa,1998,Haas:grapefruit-orange_nebulous-sec,-,F2V RA 144600 Dec -252635 Observing Notes ============================== _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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NEO FJ30
by Jim Gibson 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

On April 23, 2009 FJ30 is expected to approach Earth at 0.0249 AU (2.3 million miles), close than previously estimated. It measures between 269 and 590 feet in diameter, and is traveling at about 31809 miles per hour. Will be about mag 22. http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2009%20FJ30;orb=1 Jim

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Colorful Doubles - Hya to Crt - Candidate List
by Canopus56 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

The following is a provisional observing list with respect to my continuing color-contrast-doubles urban-astronomy interest. These are potential targets that need review for confirmation whether they are visible from urban locations. There is a paucity of bright color contrast pairs in this region crossing the north galactic pole and local chimney. Therefore, this potential target list is fainter than my previous Mon to Cnc contrast double list and may be more appropriate for suburban locations. This observing list was developed by reviewing color contrast double lists such as Mullaney, Haas and Belmont and then preparing a list of candidate targets. The candidate list will be reviewed using a 4 1/4 inch short GOTO reflector from an urban light polluted site to determine the practicality of seeing the objects from an urban setting. This list was also expanded to include prominent carbon stars in this observing frame. Any testing and corrections by interested double star observers would be welcomed and appreciated. The raw list is also available as an autostar tour: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/tours/Hya_to_Crt_AutoStar_… This post is a continuation of my posts that concerning on my current observing focus: "after-work urban-astronomy". Urban astronomy focuses on using easily set up GOTO scopes across for seasons to view astronomical objects from urban light-polluted skies. As opposed to deep sky object emphasis, urban astronomy concerns bright objects visible with small apetures e.g. - open clusters, double stars, planetary and solar system objects. Having family, friend and work obligations like the rest of you, I will try to limit referenced targets to those observable prior to local midnight. Clear Skies - Kurt =============== ID SAO116552 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1210, HIP40473 Comments 7.3v, 9.5v,15.8sep,113pa,2002,Haas:optical white-bluegreen,B9.5IV RA 081549 Dec +024758 Observing Notes ID SAO117001 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1255, HIP42491 Comments 7.3v,8.6v,26.2sep,30pa,2004,Haas: azure-white_pearly-white,-,G1V RA 083945 Dec +054612 Observing Notes ID SAO136221 Constellation Hya AltNames F Hya, HIP42835, HD74395 Comments 4.7v,8.2v,79.0.sep,311pa,2002,Haas: showcase superwide pair sun-yellow-aquamarine,-,G1I RA 084340 Dec -071401 Observing Notes ID SAO117112 Constellation Hya AltNames eps Hya, HIP43109, HD74874 Comments 3.5v,6.7v,3.0sep,299pa,2004,Smyth: yellow-purple,-,F8V RA 084647 Dec +062508 Observing Notes ID SAO136345 Constellation Hya AltNames 15 Hya, HIP43496, HD75737 Comments 5.5v,9.7v,45.7sep,5sep,1998,Smyth: white-purplish Haas: quad,-,A4 RA 085134 Dec -071038 Observing Notes ID SAO14788 Constellation UMa AltNames omi2 STF1306, HIP45038, HD78154 Comments 4.9v,8.9v,4sep,352pa,2004,Webb:Greenish...,-,F7V RA 091023 Dec +670805 Observing Notes ID SAO14809 Constellation UMa AltNames STF1315, HIP45208, HD78766 Comments 7.3v,7.7v,24.7sep,27pa,2000,Optical Haas:wide white-green;-,A3IV RA 091247 Dec +614054 Observing Notes Optical ID SAO117527 Constellation Hya AltNames the Hya, HIP45336, HD79469 Comments 4.6v,7.3v,66.2sep,-,2002,Haas:yellow-red,-,F6V RA 091422 Dec +021851 Observing Notes ID SAO136768 Constellation Hya AltNames 27 Hya, HIP45811, HD80586 Comments 4.9v,7.0v,229.1sep,212pa,2002,Haas:grapefruit-orange_plum-red,-,F6V RA 092029 Dec -093321 Observing Notes ID SAO42825 Constellation UMa AltNames STF1340, HIP45974, HD80608 Comments 7.1v,9.0v,6.2sep,319pa,1998,Haas:white_artic-blue,-,B9.5V RA 092232 Dec +493242 Observing Notes ID SAO117640 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1347, HIP46028 Comments 7.3v,8.3v,21.2sep,312pa,2002,Haas:White-blue optical,-,F0 RA 092315 Dec +033019 Observing Notes ID SAO117661 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1348, HIP46134, HD81212 Comments 7.5v,7.6v,1.9sep,317pa,2004,Haas: Part of quad - two identical white pairs,-,F7V RA 092428 Dec +062100 Observing Notes STF1355 is second twin ID SAO117704 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1355, HIP46367, HD81670 Comments 7.7v,7.8,1.9sec,352pa,2004,Haas: Part of quad - two indentical white pairs,-,F7V RA 092717 Dec +061359 Observing Notes STF1348 is first twin ID SAO42876 Constellation UMa AltNames HD81688, HIP46471 Comments 5.5v,7.8v,71.8sep,161pa,1999,Mislabeled in Haas as 41 UMa lemon-yellow_bluish_turqoise,-,K0III-IV RA 092840 Dec +453606 Observing Notes ID SAO117751 Constellation Leo AltNames 6 Leo, HIP46774, HD82381 Comments 5.2v,9.3v,37.4sep,2000,Haas:red-faintsecond,-,K3III RA 093158 Dec +094257 Observing Notes ID SAO117792 Constellation Hya AltNames STF1371, HIP47058, HD82994 Comments 7.9v, 10.2v,8.1sep,275pa,2000,Haas:yellow Herschel:sec red,-,G0 RA 093525 Dec +035418 Observing Notes ID SAO98662 Constellation Leo AltNames 7 Leo, HIP47096, HD83023 Comments 6.3v,9.4v,41.0sep,80pa,2003,Haas: bluish-whitewithblue-green,-,A1VI RA 093553 Dec +142247 Observing Notes ID SAO117871 Constellation Sex AltNames STF1377, HIP47693, HD84184 Comments 7.5v,10.5v,4.2sep,137pa,2000,Smyth:yellowish-white_blue,-,F7V RA 094327 Dec +023739 Observing Notes ID SAO98769 Constellation Leo AltNames R Leo, HIP48036, HD84748 Comments 4.4vto10.5v,-,-,-,Mullaney: Strong red variable star,-,M7III-M9III RA 094734 Dec +112544 Observing Notes ID HD85752 Constellation Hya AltNames Comments 7.8v,9.4v,8.3sep,82pa,1999,Haas:yellow-blue,-,G8-KOIII RA 095330 Dec -192916 Observing Notes ID SAO117980 Constellation Sex AltNames 9 Sex, HIP48552, HD85762 Comments 6.9v,8.4v,52.5sep,287pa,2004,Haas:tangerine-blue,superwide,-,M0_K0 RA 095407 Dec +045644 Observing Notes ID SAO98859 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1399, HIP48786 Comments 7.6v,8.4v,41sep,80pa,2003,Haas:blue-white_blue-green,-,A1V RA 095702 Dec +194514 Observing Notes ID SAO98967 Constellation Leo AltNames alf Leo, HIP49669 Comments 1.4v,8.2v,176sep,308pa,2000,Haas:white-smokeball,superwide,-,B7V RA 100822 Dec +115802 Observing Notes ID SAO81299 Constellation Leo AltNames gam01 Leo, HIP50583 Comments 2.4v,3.6v,4.6sep,127sep,2004,Haas:Showcase pair,Smyth:orange-greenish-yellow,-,K0III RA 101959 Dec +195026 Observing Notes ID SAO62021 Constellation LMi AltNames STF1374, HIP47527, HD90068 Comments 7.3v, 8.7v,3sep,309pa,2003,Haas:lemon-yellow-w-powder-blue,-,G3IV RA 102422 Dec +341034 Observing Notes ID SAO118292 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1431, HIP51036, HD90303 Comments 7.8v,9.1v,3.3sep,73pa,2003,Webb:white-blue,-,A8III RA 102535 Dec +084635 Observing Notes w/i 30 arcsec 44 Leo ID SAO81415 Constellation Leo AltNames STF1447, HIP51699, HD91427 Comments 7.5v,8.9v,4.4sep,124pa,2001,Haas:lemon-white_smokeball,-,A2 RA 103347 Dec +232101 Observing Notes ID SAO156110 Constellation Hya AltNames U Hya, HIP52009, HD92055 Comments 4.9v,Mullaney: very red carbon star,0.160parsecs,C* RA 103733 Dec -132304 Observing Notes ID SAO118449 Constellation Sex AltNames 35 Sex, HIP52452, HD92841 Comments 6.2v,7.1v,6.7sep,241pa,2004,Smyth:topaz-yellow_smalt-blue,-,K3III_K0III RA 104321 Dec +044452 Observing Notes ID SAO15274 Constellation UMa AltNames VY UMa, HIP52577, HD92839 Comments 5.9v,,,,,Mullaney: orange carbon star,0.34kpc,C* RA 104504 Dec +672441 Observing Notes ID SAO62236 Constellation LMi AltNames 42 LMi, HIP52638, HD93152 Comments 5.3v,7.8v,198.1sep,196.5pa,2002,Haas:white-green-white-superwide,-,A1V RA 104552 Dec +304056 Observing Notes ID SAO179278 Constellation Hya AltNames V Hya, HIP53085 Comments 6.5v-9.5v,-,-,-,French:variable carbon star,-,- RA 105137 Dec -211502 Observing Notes ID SAO81583 Constellation Leo AltNames 54 Leo, HIP53417, HD94601 Comments 4.5v,6.3v,6.3sep,111pa,2003,Haas:showcase banana-yellow_sapphire_blue,-,A1V A2V RA 105537 Dec +244459 Observing Notes ID SAO15384 Constellation UMa AltNames alf Uma, HIP54061 Comments 2.0v,7.0v,318sep,204pa,1991,Haas:wide orange_w_almondbrown,-,G9III-F8 RA 110344 Dec +614503 Observing Notes ID SAO81727 Constellation Leo AltNames del Leo, HIP54872 Comments 2.6v,8.6v,203.9sep,342pa,1999,Haas:banana-yellow_silver,-,A4V RA 111406 Dec +203125 Observing Notes ID SAO138106 Constellation Crt AltNames B 600, HD98088 Comments 6.2v, 8.2v, 54.3sep, 99pa, 2002, yellow-green,-,A8IV RA 111658 Dec -070806 Observing Notes ID SAO62484 Constellation UMa AltNames ksi UMa, STF1523 Comments 4.3v, 4.8v,1.7sep,245pa,2004,Mullaney:two yellow,-,F9V-G0V RA 111811 Dec +313145 Observing Notes ID SAO99587 Constellation Leo AltNames iot Leo, HIP55642, HD99028 Comments 2.4v,3.6v,4.6sep,127pa,2004,Haaas:Showcase,grapefruit-orange,-,K0III RA 112355 Dec +103145 Observing Notes ID SAO156661 Constellation Crt AltNames gam Crt, HIP55705, HD99211 Comments 4.1v, 7.9v, 5.3sep, 93pa, 1968, Haas: showcase white-grey,-,A0V RA 112453 Dec -174102 Observing Notes ID SAO99601 Constellation Leo AltNames 81 Leo, HIP55765, HD99285 Comments 5.6v,10.8v,55.1sep,2pa,1998,Haas: yellow-red,-,F2V RA 112536 Dec +162723 Observing Notes ID SAO118864 Constellation Leo AltNames 83 Leo, HIP55846, HD99491 Comments 6.6v,7.5v,28.6sep,150pa,2004,Haas:Splendid double-double,yellow-white_grey,-,G7V RA 112645 Dec +030047 Observing Notes optical, w/i 1 deg field with tau Leo ID SAO118875 Constellation Leo AltNames tau Leo, HIP55945, HD99648 Comments 5.1v,7.5v,88.9sep,181pa,2004,Haas:Splendid double-double,lemon-grey,-,G8II-III RA 112756 Dec +025122 Observing Notes w/i 1 deg field with 83 Leo ID SAO179935 Constellation Crt AltNames jc 16 Crt, HD99922 Comments 5.8v, 8.6v,8.2sep,82pa,2000,Haas: yellow-sliver,-,A0V RA 112939 Dec -242748 Observing Notes ID SAO99648 Constellation Leo AltNames 88 Leo, HIP56242, HD100180 Comments 6.3v,9.1v,15.4sep,331pa,2004,Smyth:yellow-lilac,-,G0IV RA 113145 Dec +142152 Observing Notes ID SAO179968 Constellation Hya AltNames 17 Crt, N Hya, HIP56280, HD100287 Comments 5.8v, 6.7v, 9.4sep,200pa,2003,Haas: showcase orange-orange,-,F8V F8V RA 113216 Dec -291540 Observing Notes ID SAO202717 Constellation Hya AltNames h 4465, HD101666 Comments 5.4v,8.3v,66.1sep,44pa,1999,Gould: red-gold_yellow,-,K5III RA 114144 Dec -322959 Observing Notes ID SAO81998 Constellation Leo AltNames 93 Leo, HIP57565, HD102509 Comments 4.6v,9.0v,71.4sep,357sep,2002,Haas: Grand sight. Webb:yellow-white,-,A7 RA 114759 Dec +201308 Observing Notes ID SAO156896 Constellation Crt AltNames H VI 115, HD102574 Comments 6.3v, 9.2v, 89.9sep, 82pa,2000,Haas: pale peach with nebulous secondary,-,-,F2V RA 114824 Dec -101848 Observing Notes ID SAO43945 Constellation UMa AltNames 65 UMa, STF1579, HIP58112, HD103483 Comments 6.7v,7.0v,63.2sep,114pa,2002,Haas:white-yellow part of quad,-,- RA 115506 Dec +462837 Observing Notes ID SAO44002 Constellation UMa AltNames 67 UMa, HD104513, HIP58684 Comments 5.2v,6.7v,278.5sep,62pa,2002,Haas:sun-yellow_lemon-yellow Part of Quad WDS,-,A7 RA 120207 Dec +430245 Observing Notes ID SAO28737 Constellation UMa AltNames zet01 UMa, STF1744, HIP65378 Comments 2.2v,4.0,708.5sep,71pa,1991,Haas:showcase, Smyth:white-emerald,0.024kpc,AV-A5V RA 132356 Dec +545531 Observing Notes ID SAO182855 Constellation Hya AltNames 54 Hya, HIP72197, HD129926 Comments 5.1v7.3v,8.1sep,124pa,1998,Haas:grapefruit-orange_nebulous-sec,-,F2V RA 144600 Dec -252635 Observing Notes ==============================

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Fw: Re: Telescope donation
by Roger Butz 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com On 14 Apr 2009, at 10:57, Roger Butz wrote: > Hi all, > Patrick mentioned a discussion about loaning club equipment to schools and school kids and has asked me to comment , I've only seen one comment from Chuck re guarding loaning club scopes to students so I am not privy to any other discussion on the subject. > The slas policy is : a person must be a slas member, at least 18 years old and cannot transfer club equipment to any other individual ,even another club member. > There are numerous reasons for the different policies for borrowing club equipment that we have in acted over the years as way of addressing a myriad of issues and problems that seem to crop up, We have made changes or revisions as they were appropriate. > Often what may seem like a good idea on the surface ends up creating bigger problems in the long run. > I used to do a Lot of School star parties myself when I lived in the salt lake valley, and personally have rebuilt or retrofitted dozens of small 2ND hand telescopes and given them to kids or schools over the years, I am working on 2 right now, so I am of like mind that any chance to inspire a child to think of something other than text messaging is always a good thing , however as slas curator I see loaning slas scopes to kids, schools, or teachers to be used in a school program as a nightmare on every level. Damage, Tracking, Liability and Theft to name a few off the top of my head. and such a policy opens a revolving door that in my opinion would create many many headaches for slas and its curator. > Free loaner scopes to schools or school kids? where would it end ? A hundred scopes would soon not be enough, it would spread like opening the observatory up to private boy scout Merritt badge projects. Having them come to a public star party takes care of a lot of these needs, we do dozens a year for this reason. > The SLAS Loaner scope program is set up as a benefit for SLAS members.A loaner program for the county or private school systems should be funded and run by the county. Just the repair and replacement of scopes and parts would become a full time job very quickly. Any project like this might be better handled separately from slas, similarly to the NASA ambassador program or the like. > Any way as you can tell I am once again with out an opinion. > Respectfully, Roger the Dodger

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