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Re: Comet Macholtz
by Chuck Hards 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Zero. It's about as good as it's going to get. Just from memory, I think the moon will ruin the view during peak brightness; the next couple of weeks. BTW, I don't consider Hale-Bopp a "great" comet. Close, but no cigar (or cigarette); it was a "really good" comet. It pales in comparison to comet West, which was about 20 times larger and a magnitude or two brighter. Coincidentally, both appeared in the same part of the morning sky. I think what made West so great, aside from apparent size, was that it was visible in a fully dark sky; while Hyakutake was at least twice as long, West was much, much brighter. Patrick, I think the comet you saw in the late '50's was probably Arend-Roland. If yours had a prominent anti-tail, it was probably Arend-Roland. > From: Joe Bauman <bau(a)desnews.com> > To: Utah Astronomy > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:32:50 -0700 > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Comet Macholtz > > So, what are the chances the Macholtz will be a > great one? Thanks, Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Comet Macholtz
by astrodeb＠charter.net 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Chuck, When I said the comet was big I was talking about the head of the comet and not the tail. I saw it last night in 15 X 70 binoculars and it looks like a bright unresolved globular cluster. I still can't see a tail. I have seen brighter and better comets but Machholtz is still fun to observe. Debbie > > From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards(a)yahoo.com> > Date: 2004/12/16 Thu AM 08:53:28 MST > To: Utah-Astro <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Comet Macholtz > > I saw it last night from my yard in the middle of the > SL valley, in 9x63mm binos when it was very close to > the meridian. I was surprised that it was visible at > all through the light pollution and ground fog. It > appeared about the size and brightness of M13, maybe a > tad larger. No sign of a tail. > The good news is that the track is taking it higher so > the views should get better in coming days. > As with most faint fuzzies, dark skies are a > requirement to get the most out of this comet. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: Comet Macholtz
by Chuck Hards 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

I saw it last night from my yard in the middle of the SL valley, in 9x63mm binos when it was very close to the meridian. I was surprised that it was visible at all through the light pollution and ground fog. It appeared about the size and brightness of M13, maybe a tad larger. No sign of a tail. The good news is that the track is taking it higher so the views should get better in coming days. As with most faint fuzzies, dark skies are a requirement to get the most out of this comet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: Comet Macholtz
by Chuck Hards 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Those big ones really do spoil one, don't they? A 3rd, 4th magnitude comet only a few degrees across? Yawn.... What are your favorites of the last 30 years, Patrick? I'd rank mine as West, Hyakutake, Hale-Bopp, in that order. Biggest disappointments were Halley and Kohoutek. Oh, Austin was a yawner too. People may not believe it, but you could read a newspaper by the light of comet West. Ziggy and Brent remember a couple even earlier...but then I don't QUITE qualify for the "senior" discount at the movies...not quite yet... ;) > From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)trilobyte.net> > To: Utah Astronomy > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:51:24 -0700 > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Comet Macholtz > > Ah, memories of that magical night when the tail > stretched almost all > the way across the sky. > > Sigh... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day
by astrodeb＠charter.net 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Guy, I'm just joking around. I didn't get my Starbucks coffee this morning. I hope I didn't offend anybody on my last post. Debbie > > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > Date: 2004/12/15 Wed PM 01:30:35 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day > > Deb, > > I once felt that way, but as I begin to age, I view Wal*Mart as a future > potential employer. Besides, they sell telescopes there... > > > > Quoting astrodeb(a)charter.net: > > > Ba Humbug Walmart! I still have freedom of speech and I hate their cheap > > Chinese made merchandise. If I had an airplane I'd drop some of Rich's > > horse manure on Walmart. Make it stink real good. > > > > My 2 cents with salt and pepper, > > > > Debbie > > > > > > From: Joe Bauman <bau(a)desnews.com> > > > Date: 2004/12/15 Wed PM 12:29:59 MST > > > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day > > > > > > Well, one local media guy, at least, carries around a great big ol' > > > salt shaker .... No fears. Joe > > > > > > >Not to be a wet blanket, but everyone needs to know that we are > > kidding > > > >when we talk about stuff like this. Remember that this list is > > > >monitored by local media. > > > > > > > >Carpe Noctum, > > > > > > > >Patrick :-) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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by Jim Gibson 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day
by astrodeb＠charter.net 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Ba Humbug Walmart! I still have freedom of speech and I hate their cheap Chinese made merchandise. If I had an airplane I'd drop some of Rich's horse manure on Walmart. Make it stink real good. My 2 cents with salt and pepper, Debbie > > From: Joe Bauman <bau(a)desnews.com> > Date: 2004/12/15 Wed PM 12:29:59 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day > > Well, one local media guy, at least, carries around a great big ol' > salt shaker .... No fears. Joe > > >Not to be a wet blanket, but everyone needs to know that we are kidding > >when we talk about stuff like this. Remember that this list is > >monitored by local media. > > > >Carpe Noctum, > > > >Patrick :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Paramount for sale
by Patrick Wiggins 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

I want to give myself a new mount for a solstice present. But first I need to sell my old one. I'm selling my 4 year old Paramount GT-1100. When new the 1100s were selling for ~$10k. I'll consider offers for considerably less than that. Before I put it on Astromart I thought I'd give the locals a chance. Any takers? Patrick :-)

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Re: Comet Macholtz
by Chuck Hards 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Debbie, you poor thing, you gotta see more big comets. If you can't see the whole thing without moving your head, its not big. ;) > astrodeb(a)charter.net wrote: > ...Anyway, I found this big, bright round > fuzzy > object about > the size of Omega Centauri. I'm not kidding, > this thing is big. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day
by astrodeb＠charter.net 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Guy, You could paint all the lights red as part of your dark sky program. That would be a sight to see. Debbie > > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > Date: 2004/12/14 Tue PM 10:42:16 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wal Mart / Dark Sky Security / Bad Day > > Who you kidding. That's the same aerial photo the 'National Inquirer' has > been passing off as an Iranian Nuclear Weapons plant. ;) Check out the berm > surrounding the facility. > > Patrick, take a picture of the facility at night. show us what it looks like > from several locations including the bat cave. If you can, move in close > and include some shots of the light fixtures and their apparent locations > from any nearby cover. Maybe you could estimate the distance and potential > wind hazzard to each light. You can do that on paper. This info could come > in handy if we ever decide to enact a 'dark sky' program. Don't forget to > paint your face. ;) Just kidding... > > > > > > Qoting Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)trilobyte.net>: > > > The new Wal Mart distribution center was mentioned here earlier. FYI, > > here's what it looks like (through today's haze). FWIW it's located on > > the far west side of the Tooele valley. > > > > http://www.trilobyte.net/paw/temp/TEMP001.JPG > > > > As for Dark Sky site security, one could do like this guy near > > Grantsville and put in a mote. :-) > > > > http://www.trilobyte.net/paw/temp/TEMP002.JPG > > > > And as long as I'm showing pictures, here's one showing someone's bad > > day (result of the pilot getting the flap thingie mixed up with the gear > > thingie). > > > > http://www.trilobyte.net/paw/temp/TEMP003.JPG > > > > Patrick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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