December 2004 - Utah-Astronomy - mailman.xmission.com

Re: Dark-sky site
by Chuck Hards 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Before any money changes hands, this microwave site really should be investigated. Don't rush to buy. Accesability, darkness, potential area growth, etc. Lots of things to consider, care should be taken to find the RIGHT sight. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Dark-sky site
by Michael Carnes 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Not to mention that it could represent a partial redirection of SLAS funds, effort and focus. Pretty easy to get folks P.O.'d if we didn't talk it over. >Lots of things to consider, care should be taken to >find the RIGHT sight.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Sky site
by Michael Carnes 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Joe, you're not considering a new career in real-estate, are you? 8-) >The country around is desert, >complete with flies and and other bugs probably cattle. etc, etc

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Re: Tooele racetrack
by Chuck Hards 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Some people I've spoken to seem to feel that the racing itself shouldn't pose too much of a problem, most events will be over before midnight, but Guy made a good point about the traffic going home, also the facility will be used for concerts and other events on non-race nights and these events may cause the biggest problems from a light pollution standpoint because individually they are "one-time only" events and can more easily get a variance or waiver for the event. >From experience I've found that full-cut-off shielding has a marginal effect when the source is massive and very close. Also paved surfaces reflect much more than turf or planted ground. Perhaps a little activism might not be out-of-hand in this instance. > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > To: Utah Astronomy > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:29:43 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack > > I don't think the 'light pollution ordinance' will > have any effect on the > glare from all the traffic. Not to mention all the > dust in the atmosphere. > Maybe now would be a good time to drop him a note to > let him know that > there is an observatory in the area and what effect > the proposed plan might > have on it's operation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Sky site
by astrodeb＠charter.net 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Maybe I've been watching "The Apprentice" too much but could the club sell something like candybars or have a special fund raising dinner for a dark sky site? Debbie > > From: Joe Bauman <bau(a)desnews.com> > Date: 2004/12/14 Tue AM 08:43:10 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Sky site > > At just under $8,000, this does look like a really nice place to set > up. The building is substantial, looks like it is secure with plenty > of room inside to store things including a few cots, etc. Might be > worth serious consideration. If I threw in $1,000, could we get > enough others? Thanks, Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: Dark-sky site
by Chuck Hards 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Jo, this isn't the kind of thing one rushes-into within the timeframe of an on-line auction, but if the site is free of local light pollution and otherwise qualifies as a "dark" site, has power and we can get at least a porta-potty installed, count me in for a share of three or four hundred bucks. Find nineteen more folks at that level, and we're in! Caveats are lifetime access even if the club folds or changes complexion markedly. This does raise the question of going with either subdivided, individual ownership vs. a club-owned property (Isn't SPOC on leased land?); and remember that property taxes are due every year... > From: Josephine Grahn <bsi(a)xmission.com> > To: Utah Astronomy > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:07:26 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Sky site > > I know you all hoped I was kidding with the link I > posted, but... it has > concrete pads, secure storage, and power, plus a > working outhouse. Anyone > know anything about filing a new "Use Application" > with the BLM? 25 miles > SW of Delta, and we could branch out into ham radio > :) It is on Ebay, and > it is real. If you cannot follow the link, go to > Ebay and punch in item > number 4337701828. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1607&item=4337701828 > > additional pictures and a map are at: > http://home.rmci.net/ranse/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack
by astrodeb＠charter.net 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

They are notorious for lighting up the sky. That Walmart distribution center near St. George lights up the sky like a Christmas tree. I can see the glow from LaVerkin, UT Debbie > > From: Jim Gibson <jimgibson00(a)yahoo.com> > Date: 2004/12/13 Mon PM 02:43:51 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack > > > Wall*Mart is planning a big warehouse north west of Grantsville with an estimated 600 truchks coming and going per day at startup. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Geminid meteor shower
by astrodeb＠charter.net 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Joe, 2am according to Sky and Telescope. Debbie > From: Joe Bauman <bau(a)desnews.com> > Date: 2004/12/13 Mon AM 10:26:05 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Geminid meteor shower > > Deb, Do you recall when the peak should be? Thanks, Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: Geminids
by Chuck Hards 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Wow, now THREE digests in one day! The list is smoking! In over 35 years, I've never noticed the Geminids to have a sharp peak. In fact it's one of the longest-lasting showers that I can think of. Good views days before and after any predicted "peak", which must be fairly "soft" if there at all. Usually big and bright, colored yellow to green. Never fails to please even from the suburbs, as Joe Borgione noted. Last night I saw what I thought was shower member, it aligned perfectly with the radiant, but something was wrong...then it hit me that it was moving TOWARD the radiant, so it must have been a sporadic. Then it clouded up and I went to bed. Joe, my Brunton 20x70's are waterproof....maybe it's time to build the "spa-llelogram".... ;) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack
by Olhomorto＠aol.com 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Now, there's a comment I can get behind whole heartedly ! I, too, fully appreciate the importance of publicity for the society, and public support for our cause, but in my selfish way, I would like to enjoy an official dark site before I'm dead. Mike Bailey

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