RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15
"Love him or hate him, nobody wants to hear me spam the list bitching about RMS and his FTP spam. Well instead, I'm just simply going to respond with a rapidshare link of the subject matter available for download by anyone of any class, creed, race or computer ability." YES!!! at least you can acknowledge that even IF RMS was a real problem that YOU and the people that bitch about him doesn't help at all....if anything it makes it worse! look - i'm not looking for a pissing match here - it just bothers me when i see people adding posts to this list for the soul purpose of complaining......complaining about someone offering music no less! you can offer up whatever you wish and i commend you for that. nothing wrong with having more than one available source for the goodies this list holds. "Now I did the same thing for Pomme Fritz, but only Ken and RMS seemed to be unhappy about it. I wonder why? The same person maybe? Hmmm. " the only thing i was unhappy about was your bitching about someone that is posting with open arms. same person??? dude...get a grip! "We did our own lil research on the KLF list and there we discovered precisely 18% of our posts were not just RMS, but RMS on the topic of his FTP." really though?? that's pretty obsessive - should rms be flattered?? 101!!! i'm stepping away from this whole issue as i need not be involved. i would just like to say that if you really have a problem with RMS that perhaps you should keep it to yourself because i don't think this stuff is beneficial to the community at all - and RMS's server IS beneficial - no matter which angle you look at it. Give the guy some credit for taking his time to help us all get the music we are looking for. If you don't wish to give him credit - then deal with it. There are plenty here that are thankful for what he has to offer and this whole "ego trip" thing i just don't get at all. it almost reaks of jealousy or something. but either way - we're all here for one reason and we all have a common bond. no need to muck it all up with shittalk. sorry to piss you off matt - but hopefully you're adult enough to understand where i'm coming from and perhaps you can real eyes that people like RMS do not deserve your disrespect. cheers peeps - orb is coming to the USA in no time let's keep focused ;)
Dear Ken, You didn't piss me off at all. Actually I thought it funny while everyone else was thanking me for the Pomme Fritz video you saw it fit to admonish me for "non contribution." Simply put, RMS has stopped his annoying posts on the KLF list because A) He can't keep up with the flurry of activity and B) Each post is accomponied by its own link to the file in question. My goal is to render his FTP obsolete and thus the responsorials from you and him alike. Many people have trouble getting onto that ancient machine, and the same amount have trouble configuring routers for bittorent.. etc etc. Lets make this music more accessable to the hoi polloi. On 2/28/06, Ken Erxleben <seedybrick@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Love him or hate him, nobody wants to hear me spam the list bitching about RMS and his FTP spam. Well instead, I'm just simply going to respond with a rapidshare link of the subject matter available for download by anyone of any class, creed, race or computer ability."
YES!!! at least you can acknowledge that even IF RMS was a real problem that YOU and the people that bitch about him doesn't help at all....if anything it makes it worse!
look - i'm not looking for a pissing match here - it just bothers me when i see people adding posts to this list for the soul purpose of complaining......complaining about someone offering music no less!
you can offer up whatever you wish and i commend you for that. nothing wrong with having more than one available source for the goodies this list holds.
"Now I did the same thing for Pomme Fritz, but only Ken and RMS seemed to be unhappy about it. I wonder why? The same person maybe? Hmmm. "
the only thing i was unhappy about was your bitching about someone that is posting with open arms. same person??? dude...get a grip!
"We did our own lil research on the KLF list and there we discovered precisely 18% of our posts were not just RMS, but RMS on the topic of his FTP." really though?? that's pretty obsessive - should rms be flattered?? 101!!!
i'm stepping away from this whole issue as i need not be involved. i would just like to say that if you really have a problem with RMS that perhaps you should keep it to yourself because i don't think this stuff is beneficial to the community at all - and RMS's server IS beneficial - no matter which angle you look at it.
Give the guy some credit for taking his time to help us all get the music we are looking for. If you don't wish to give him credit - then deal with it. There are plenty here that are thankful for what he has to offer and this whole "ego trip" thing i just don't get at all. it almost reaks of jealousy or something.
but either way - we're all here for one reason and we all have a common bond. no need to muck it all up with shittalk.
sorry to piss you off matt - but hopefully you're adult enough to understand where i'm coming from and perhaps you can real eyes that people like RMS do not deserve your disrespect.
cheers peeps - orb is coming to the USA in no time let's keep focused ;)
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Sorry guys, but I'm gonna have to put in my 2 penneth. Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS's ftp, I can't say that I find it annoying or offensive. Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this. With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net. What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST! PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language. Chris _____ From: orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt S Sent: 28 February 2006 23:42 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15 Dear Ken, You didn't piss me off at all. Actually I thought it funny while everyone else was thanking me for the Pomme Fritz video you saw it fit to admonish me for "non contribution." Simply put, RMS has stopped his annoying posts on the KLF list because A) He can't keep up with the flurry of activity and B) Each post is accomponied by its own link to the file in question. My goal is to render his FTP obsolete and thus the responsorials from you and him alike. Many people have trouble getting onto that ancient machine, and the same amount have trouble configuring routers for bittorent.. etc etc. Lets make this music more accessable to the hoi polloi. On 2/28/06, Ken Erxleben <seedybrick@hotmail.com> wrote: "Love him or hate him, nobody wants to hear me spam the list bitching about RMS and his FTP spam. Well instead, I'm just simply going to respond with a rapidshare link of the subject matter available for download by anyone of any class, creed, race or computer ability." YES!!! at least you can acknowledge that even IF RMS was a real problem that YOU and the people that bitch about him doesn't help at all....if anything it makes it worse! look - i'm not looking for a pissing match here - it just bothers me when i see people adding posts to this list for the soul purpose of complaining......complaining about someone offering music no less! you can offer up whatever you wish and i commend you for that. nothing wrong with having more than one available source for the goodies this list holds. "Now I did the same thing for Pomme Fritz, but only Ken and RMS seemed to be unhappy about it. I wonder why? The same person maybe? Hmmm. " the only thing i was unhappy about was your bitching about someone that is posting with open arms. same person??? dude...get a grip! "We did our own lil research on the KLF list and there we discovered precisely 18% of our posts were not just RMS, but RMS on the topic of his FTP." really though?? that's pretty obsessive - should rms be flattered?? 101!!! i'm stepping away from this whole issue as i need not be involved. i would just like to say that if you really have a problem with RMS that perhaps you should keep it to yourself because i don't think this stuff is beneficial to the community at all - and RMS's server IS beneficial - no matter which angle you look at it. Give the guy some credit for taking his time to help us all get the music we are looking for. If you don't wish to give him credit - then deal with it. There are plenty here that are thankful for what he has to offer and this whole "ego trip" thing i just don't get at all. it almost reaks of jealousy or something. but either way - we're all here for one reason and we all have a common bond. no need to muck it all up with shittalk. sorry to piss you off matt - but hopefully you're adult enough to understand where i'm coming from and perhaps you can real eyes that people like RMS do not deserve your disrespect. cheers peeps - orb is coming to the USA in no time let's keep focused ;) _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:Orb@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com -- --
Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS’s ftp, I can’t say that I find it annoying or offensive.
Speak for yourself. He's an annoying git.
Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this.
Sure there is. 1) He uses that language (and worse) himself in his off-list abusive posts to anyone who says anything about him that isn't kissing his ass. 2) He doesn't respond to being nice. Believe me, *many* people have tried to nicely ask him to change his ways; he's either ignored it, or responded with abuse.
With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net.
He's an annoying git, and has been for a number of years. He only goes away when firmly and repeatedly told to STFU. He doesn't understand mailing list etiquette, and seems to be under the impression that we all owe him obeisance for "running" his shitty little ftp. And announcing it ad nauseous. The KLF list is nearly 20% RMS going on repetitively about his amazing ftp site; excuse the hell out of those of us who don't want this list to go down that path. However, at least we don't get the regular wildly off-topic "I'm too dim to properly work my computer myself, please help me" cries for attention that he blesses the KLF list with.
What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST!
Why? As long as RMS spams and abuses this list, why can't we talk about that?
PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language.
Uhhh, and the fact that you are at *work*. If you can't take the heat, don't come in the kitchen. It's not anyone else's responsibility to change their behaviour because you want to read this list at work. Chris (and RMS, all responses on-list please, any private email will be reposted)
LMMFAO!!!!!!WeLL PUT OLD BOI. RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:22 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15
Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS's ftp, I can't say that I find it annoying or offensive.
Speak for yourself. He's an annoying git.
Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this.
Sure there is. 1) He uses that language (and worse) himself in his off-list abusive posts to anyone who says anything about him that isn't kissing his ass. 2) He doesn't respond to being nice. Believe me, *many* people have tried to nicely ask him to change his ways; he's either ignored it, or responded with abuse.
With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net.
He's an annoying git, and has been for a number of years. He only goes away when firmly and repeatedly told to STFU. He doesn't understand mailing list etiquette, and seems to be under the impression that we all owe him obeisance for "running" his shitty little ftp. And announcing it ad nauseous. The KLF list is nearly 20% RMS going on repetitively about his amazing ftp site; excuse the hell out of those of us who don't want this list to go down that path. However, at least we don't get the regular wildly off-topic "I'm too dim to properly work my computer myself, please help me" cries for attention that he blesses the KLF list with.
What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST!
Why? As long as RMS spams and abuses this list, why can't we talk about that?
PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language.
Uhhh, and the fact that you are at *work*. If you can't take the heat, don't come in the kitchen. It's not anyone else's responsibility to change their behaviour because you want to read this list at work. Chris (and RMS, all responses on-list please, any private email will be reposted) _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
I have to leave this list. I've been on here for about a week and most of what you guys do is fill up my inbox with your posts bitching at each other back and forth. well, thanks for the good time. bryan
We need Thrash to save us from ourselves!! -matt
Dirty Word... Web Police get him... LOL RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RMStringer Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:18 PM To: 'What were the skies like when you were young?' Subject: RE: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15 LMMFAO!!!!!!WeLL PUT OLD BOI. RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:22 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15
Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS's ftp, I can't say that I find it annoying or offensive.
Speak for yourself. He's an annoying git.
Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this.
Sure there is. 1) He uses that language (and worse) himself in his off-list abusive posts to anyone who says anything about him that isn't kissing his ass. 2) He doesn't respond to being nice. Believe me, *many* people have tried to nicely ask him to change his ways; he's either ignored it, or responded with abuse.
With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net.
He's an annoying git, and has been for a number of years. He only goes away when firmly and repeatedly told to STFU. He doesn't understand mailing list etiquette, and seems to be under the impression that we all owe him obeisance for "running" his shitty little ftp. And announcing it ad nauseous. The KLF list is nearly 20% RMS going on repetitively about his amazing ftp site; excuse the hell out of those of us who don't want this list to go down that path. However, at least we don't get the regular wildly off-topic "I'm too dim to properly work my computer myself, please help me" cries for attention that he blesses the KLF list with.
What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST!
Why? As long as RMS spams and abuses this list, why can't we talk about that?
PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language.
Uhhh, and the fact that you are at *work*. If you can't take the heat, don't come in the kitchen. It's not anyone else's responsibility to change their behaviour because you want to read this list at work. Chris (and RMS, all responses on-list please, any private email will be reposted) _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
Well let's see, what do you have to offer free and clear to this list? DO you Chris and Matt run a server on your computer to let people have access to your ORB files? IF so, never seen it of tried to use. That might be because you don't or can't or won't set one up. I have had one for years for people to use as "they" wish. IT is on my main workstation and it gets slow because of that fact. IT is a nice box and very fast, not an old dilapidated 486 or something like that. But enjoy your trivial lives and try to have fun off list. I know that I do. Oh and what is a GIT for us Americans not privy to European slang? TRANSLATE... RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN
haha, you are quoting a message from me below with absolutely no swearing. yes i've used swears in the past, they can be seen easily.. but make sure you realize who is the one cussing here. and in case you forgot about RMS's choice of language, read this: On 2/25/06, RMStringer <RMStringer1971@comcast.net> wrote:FUCK YOU you fucking asshole. I was only being nice. You suck dick you fucking cunt. On 2/28/06, Chris Wallace <interax@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry guys, but I'm gonna have to put in my 2 penneth.
Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS's ftp, I can't say that I find it annoying or offensive.
Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this.
With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net.
What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST!
PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language.
Chris
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*From:* orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com] * On Behalf Of *Matt S *Sent:* 28 February 2006 23:42 *To:* What were the skies like when you were young? *Subject:* Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15
Dear Ken,
You didn't piss me off at all. Actually I thought it funny while everyone else was thanking me for the Pomme Fritz video you saw it fit to admonish me for "non contribution."
Simply put, RMS has stopped his annoying posts on the KLF list because A) He can't keep up with the flurry of activity and B) Each post is accomponied by its own link to the file in question.
My goal is to render his FTP obsolete and thus the responsorials from you and him alike. Many people have trouble getting onto that ancient machine, and the same amount have trouble configuring routers for bittorent.. etc etc.
Lets make this music more accessable to the hoi polloi.
On 2/28/06, *Ken Erxleben* <seedybrick@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Love him or hate him, nobody wants to hear me spam the list bitching about RMS and his FTP spam. Well instead, I'm just simply going to respond with a rapidshare link of the subject matter available for download by anyone of any class, creed, race or computer ability."
YES!!! at least you can acknowledge that even IF RMS was a real problem that YOU and the people that bitch about him doesn't help at all....if anything
it makes it worse!
look - i'm not looking for a pissing match here - it just bothers me when i see people adding posts to this list for the soul purpose of complaining......complaining about someone offering music no less!
you can offer up whatever you wish and i commend you for that. nothing wrong with having more than one available source for the goodies this list holds.
"Now I did the same thing for Pomme Fritz, but only Ken and RMS seemed to be unhappy about it. I wonder why? The same person maybe? Hmmm. "
the only thing i was unhappy about was your bitching about someone that is posting with open arms. same person??? dude...get a grip!
"We did our own lil research on the KLF list and there we discovered precisely 18% of our posts were not just RMS, but RMS on the topic of his FTP." really though?? that's pretty obsessive - should rms be flattered?? 101!!!
i'm stepping away from this whole issue as i need not be involved. i would just like to say that if you really have a problem with RMS that perhaps you should keep it to yourself because i don't think this stuff is beneficial to the community at all - and RMS's server IS beneficial - no matter which angle you look at it.
Give the guy some credit for taking his time to help us all get the music we are looking for. If you don't wish to give him credit - then deal with it. There are plenty here that are thankful for what he has to offer and this whole "ego trip" thing i just don't get at all. it almost reaks of jealousy or something.
but either way - we're all here for one reason and we all have a common bond. no need to muck it all up with shittalk.
sorry to piss you off matt - but hopefully you're adult enough to understand where i'm coming from and perhaps you can real eyes that people like RMS do not deserve your disrespect.
cheers peeps - orb is coming to the USA in no time let's keep focused ;)
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It will not be obsolete. But you can try all you want. All that rapid share shit will pass. FTP has been around a long time and it is still a viable technology. If people can't figure out how to open port 21, they don't need to have access in the 1st place. I do not need to keep up with the "furry" of activity. I have most of the files to begin with. SO enjoy you personal crusade. It will fail like most do. RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN _____ From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt S Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:42 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15 Dear Ken, You didn't piss me off at all. Actually I thought it funny while everyone else was thanking me for the Pomme Fritz video you saw it fit to admonish me for "non contribution." Simply put, RMS has stopped his annoying posts on the KLF list because A) He can't keep up with the flurry of activity and B) Each post is accomponied by its own link to the file in question. My goal is to render his FTP obsolete and thus the responsorials from you and him alike. Many people have trouble getting onto that ancient machine, and the same amount have trouble configuring routers for bittorent.. etc etc. Lets make this music more accessable to the hoi polloi.
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