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Re: Reefing an M15
by brad kurlancheek 02 Jul '21

02 Jul '21

Ernst, Ditto on welcome to the group. Dave Scobie, as he mentioned, put together an excellent description of reefing. I took the liberty of summarizing Dave's description, for my own use. Any errors are exclusively mine! - Brad REEFING an M15 SETUP 1. Steer the boat so the wind is blowing about 10 degrees off the starboard bow. 2. Loose the main sheet, lock the tiller so the boat stays pointed into the wind and go forward. 3. Sit on the starboard cabin top, as a sailboat’s reefing gear should be on the starboard side of the mast and boom, with legs hanging inside the companionway. METHOD ONE First, secure the topping lift, as you're about to lower the main sail and don't want the boom falling down. a. Lower the main using the halyard so the reef tack grommet is about four inches above the gooseneck. b. Retie the main halyard to the cleat. c. Reach aft long the boom and pull the clew reefing line so the clew grommet is secured tight to the boom. d. On the mast pull the reef tack line and pull the tack grommet tight to the gooseneck & secure. DONE. *METHOD TWO* (again, be sure topping lift is secured first) 4. Lower the MainSail, retie Halyard 5. Tighten Fore Tack Grommet to Boom by pulling Tack Grommet Reefing Line 6. Pull Main Halyard to Raise Sail to Full Length 7. Tighten Aft clew Grommet by pulling clew Reefing Line DONE. Now go aft, grab the tiller, pull in the sails and continue sailing. > >

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Re: My reefing setup, FYI
by bownez＠juno.com 01 Jul '21

01 Jul '21

Hi Ernie, Green Lake will be a fine lake to sail....as you become more comfortable with your boat and skills, you can certainly move to larger bodies of water. Minnesota has no shortage of fascinating sailing area. I slipped my M23 on Lake Pepin for 14 years. My favorite lake to trailer sail was definitely Vermilion. All the best.... Michael "Bones" Bowden Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm…

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Re: My reefing setup, FYI
by bownez＠juno.com 30 Jun '21

30 Jun '21

Ernst, Welcome to the group and congrats on scoring an M-15. Most folks need to travel long distances to purchase an M boat. What lake will you be sailing in Mn? I have sailed many, I live in Mpls. All the best.... Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_tag… Kim Jong Un Warns of 'Great Crisis' After COVID Lapses http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/60dc6528697eb65287d37st04vuc1 7 Years Later, Facebook Message Leads to Arrest Warrant http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/60dc65288e1f065287d37st04vuc2 New Alzheimer's Drug Spurs Big Concerns, an Investigation http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/60dc6528b360965287d37st04vuc3

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New owner announcement & questions
by Ernst van Gulijk 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Good morning all, As of last week, I am the proud new owner of a 2007 M-15. I live in central Minnesota, and have been on the lookout for a boat for a couple of years, and surprisingly located one on Craigslist 30 minutes down the road for me. As per the previous owner(s), the boat has seen little to no time on the water during the last 10 years. In learning about the rigging this past weekend, it appears that all is pretty generic - basically how she came from the factory 14 years ago. A couple questions for the group: - I am envisioning sailing the boat solo on most occasions, and as such was considering having all control hardware lead to the cockpit. I have read about this, but have not seen any clear instructions/tips how others have done this. Would anyone be able to share some pix as to how they have this set up in their boat? - Secondly, it appears that the main sail has never been reefed. I found a zip lock bag with (what I assume) are various bits and pieces of rope for this arrangement. Here too, I would like to be able to reef from the cockpit. Any suggestions as to what works best (pix would help here too). In ending, I am not new to sailing, having been the owner of a small 12 foot Kolibri (German) sailboat for a number of years. It's rather small, and its sail plan is pretty basic (main and jib, but no reefing option), but conceptually to same to the M-15. Used more or less as a fair weather boat. With the M-15 I was hoping to gradually work my way up to larger lakes, and potentially end up along the shores of Lake Superior at some point. I am looking forward to your replies. Ernst van Gulijk -----Original Message----- From: Cap Keith <orionkeith(a)msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:54 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16 Thank you to all regarding the cut-out for an outboard engine! I do appreciate all the insightful information. I enjoy this site... again, thank you Keith Get Outlook for iOS<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 7:56:10 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Motor mount (John Schinnerer) 2. Motor noise reduction - was Re: Re: Motor mount (John Schinnerer) 3. Re: Motor mount (Saltm17) 4. Re: Montgomery site? (Dave Scobie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:35:13 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <4d5a18b9-9a07-fede-c67d-6b06c1b187cb(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Ditto that, forgot to mention in my previous post. It's nice to be able to adjust motor height a bit to match conditions and boat loading if/as necessary. For me it's always one of two 'down' positions that are only a few inches different, but a few inches can make all the difference sometimes. for example bouncing in chop I can set it a bit deeper so it doesn't cavitate when the stern bounces up. I think Jerry has said that the notch was partly designed around a particular motor of that era, which was a 2-cycle, so smaller lighter power head, maybe could be turned while in the notch, and maybe it had reverse too? Anyhow the notch is not well suited to more recent 4-cycle motors with larger power heads...you'd have to enlarge the notch, which is not a minor DIY project. cheers, John On 6/27/21 2:01 PM, Michael Witkin via montgomery_boats wrote: > Keith,With the long shaft outboard motor in the cut out, the prop > wasn't low enough in the water for the cooling intake unless at least > one person was in the boat. When sailing alone, I couldn't start the > engine and step onto the dock. Now with a motor mount I can let the > engine warm up while I deal with dock lines and gear.Fair Winds,Mike > Faiand On Suay, June 27, 2021, 09:27:03 AM PDT, Cap Keith > <orionkeith(a)msn.com> wrote > > > Hello all, > > Just a quick question... I own a M17, 1980 model. Purchased with an attached, adjustable motor mount thru-bolted where the cut out for an outboard. Question: Why not use the existing, cut-out for say, a 4-5hp motor? (Wanting to re-power). > cKeith K > Ginger Snap > > Get Outlook for > iOS<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F > aka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=04%7C01%7CErnst%40nteglobal.com%7C1c0fe5b4a1d > a4b6d1c5508d93b163509%7Ca433be3d5ba04873a173a72aee7c225d%7C0%7C0%7C637 > 605788844434651%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2 > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ikfrV5ua1KXH4qpZ > 4oOgkqD95w5Cs87o2OMolF17VyI%3D&reserved=0> > > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feco-living… https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsociocracy… ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:44:43 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Motor noise reduction - was Re: Re: Motor mount To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <b00d25e9-12a6-c879-64df-a022c0e5d964(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Also forgot to mention - with the motor on a mount behind the notch, you can put a piece of foam insulation board in the notch, and it makes a significant reduction in motor noise. I'll post a picture when I get my boat back in action later this summer. I tried this out last year and it really helps cut motor noise. I started by just propping a throw cushion up where the notch is and that helped a bit. So I took some scrap XPS foam board (extruded polystyrene - the blue or pink stuff used by builders to insulate foundations etc.), 2" thick, and shaped it to fit in the notch and extend a bit above it. 2.5" would be even better for making a sturdier flange on both sides of the notch, but I happened to have some 2" at the time. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feco-living… https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsociocracy… ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <1147764317.1576490.1624844564785(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I've been trying to get on the Montgomery boats site but can't find it. Can you help? Thanks John Edwards -----Original Message----- From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 3:14 pm Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount I didn't try to use the motor to steer. My problem was that the motor head intruded in to the cockpit so far when tilted up that it blocked the tiller from swinging all the way over. Not a problem in normal sailing but a pain when approaching my mooring. Henry On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:55 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The reason people don't like the cutout is: can't use motor to steer > (easily), and many outboards do not fit. > > IMO use the rudder to steer ... just like boats with inboards do. > > A Suzuki 4/6 HP long (20") will fit. Do a www-search for 'Larry Yale > Montgomery 17 Corn Dog's and you will see pictures of his boat using a > Suzuki in the cutout. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 9:26 AM Cap Keith <orionkeith(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Just a quick question... I own a M17, 1980 model. Purchased with an > > attached, adjustable motor mount thru-bolted where the cut out for > > an outboard. Question: Why not use the existing, cut-out for say, > > a 4-5hp motor? (Wanting to re-power). > > > > Keith K > > Ginger Snap > > > > Get Outlook for > > iOS<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F% > > 2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=04%7C01%7CErnst%40nteglobal.com%7C1c0fe5b > > 4a1da4b6d1c5508d93b163509%7Ca433be3d5ba04873a173a72aee7c225d%7C0%7C0 > > %7C637605788844434651%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC > > JQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ikfrV5 > > ua1KXH4qpZ4oOgkqD95w5Cs87o2OMolF17VyI%3D&reserved=0> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:55:36 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Montgomery site? To: Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4+62u_N1jg3p_ZX-HS=s5Zai4Q9oDGCBabErwjQqPq0g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Which site are you referring to John? msogphotosite.com MSOG.org Facebook page Other :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 6:43 PM Saltm17 via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Hi, > I've been trying to get on the Montgomery boats site but can't find it. > Can you help? > Thanks > John Edwards > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16 *************************************************

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My reefing setup, FYI
by John Schinnerer 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Here's some pix (if attachments are allowed) of my re-done reefing setup, following the systems described in the article I just posted. This is on an M17 but would be similar for any boat...I have two reefs but you may only have one in your mainsail. I can send bigger versions directly if helpful, these are small because I'm not sure what the attachment limit is on this list. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16
by Cap Keith 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Thank you to all regarding the cut-out for an outboard engine! I do appreciate all the insightful information. I enjoy this site… again, thank you Keith Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 7:56:10 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Motor mount (John Schinnerer) 2. Motor noise reduction - was Re: Re: Motor mount (John Schinnerer) 3. Re: Motor mount (Saltm17) 4. Re: Montgomery site? (Dave Scobie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:35:13 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <4d5a18b9-9a07-fede-c67d-6b06c1b187cb(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Ditto that, forgot to mention in my previous post. It's nice to be able to adjust motor height a bit to match conditions and boat loading if/as necessary. For me it's always one of two 'down' positions that are only a few inches different, but a few inches can make all the difference sometimes. for example bouncing in chop I can set it a bit deeper so it doesn't cavitate when the stern bounces up. I think Jerry has said that the notch was partly designed around a particular motor of that era, which was a 2-cycle, so smaller lighter power head, maybe could be turned while in the notch, and maybe it had reverse too? Anyhow the notch is not well suited to more recent 4-cycle motors with larger power heads...you'd have to enlarge the notch, which is not a minor DIY project. cheers, John On 6/27/21 2:01 PM, Michael Witkin via montgomery_boats wrote: > Keith,With the long shaft outboard motor in the cut out, the prop wasn't low enough in the water for the cooling intake unless at least one person was in the boat. When sailing alone, I couldn't start the engine and step onto the dock. Now with a motor mount I can let the engine warm up while I deal with dock lines and gear.Fair Winds,Mike > Faiand On Suay, June 27, 2021, 09:27:03 AM PDT, Cap Keith <orionkeith(a)msn.com> wrote > > > Hello all, > > Just a quick question… I own a M17, 1980 model. Purchased with an attached, adjustable motor mount thru-bolted where the cut out for an outboard. Question: Why not use the existing, cut-out for say, a 4-5hp motor? (Wanting to re-power). > cKeith K > Ginger Snap > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo…> > > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feco-living.… https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsociocracyc… ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:44:43 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Motor noise reduction - was Re: Re: Motor mount To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <b00d25e9-12a6-c879-64df-a022c0e5d964(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Also forgot to mention - with the motor on a mount behind the notch, you can put a piece of foam insulation board in the notch, and it makes a significant reduction in motor noise. I'll post a picture when I get my boat back in action later this summer. I tried this out last year and it really helps cut motor noise. I started by just propping a throw cushion up where the notch is and that helped a bit. So I took some scrap XPS foam board (extruded polystyrene - the blue or pink stuff used by builders to insulate foundations etc.), 2" thick, and shaped it to fit in the notch and extend a bit above it. 2.5" would be even better for making a sturdier flange on both sides of the notch, but I happened to have some 2" at the time. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feco-living.… https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsociocracyc… ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <1147764317.1576490.1624844564785(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I've been trying to get on the Montgomery boats site but can't find it. Can you help? Thanks John Edwards -----Original Message----- From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 3:14 pm Subject: M_Boats: Re: Motor mount I didn't try to use the motor to steer. My problem was that the motor head intruded in to the cockpit so far when tilted up that it blocked the tiller from swinging all the way over. Not a problem in normal sailing but a pain when approaching my mooring. Henry On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 10:55 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The reason people don't like the cutout is: can't use motor to steer > (easily), and many outboards do not fit. > > IMO use the rudder to steer ... just like boats with inboards do. > > A Suzuki 4/6 HP long (20") will fit. Do a www-search for 'Larry Yale > Montgomery 17 Corn Dog's and you will see pictures of his boat using a > Suzuki in the cutout. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 9:26 AM Cap Keith <orionkeith(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Just a quick question… I own a M17, 1980 model. Purchased with an > > attached, adjustable motor mount thru-bolted where the cut out for an > > outboard. Question: Why not use the existing, cut-out for say, a 4-5hp > > motor? (Wanting to re-power). > > > > Keith K > > Ginger Snap > > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo…> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:55:36 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Montgomery site? To: Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4+62u_N1jg3p_ZX-HS=s5Zai4Q9oDGCBabErwjQqPq0g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Which site are you referring to John? msogphotosite.com MSOG.org Facebook page Other :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 6:43 PM Saltm17 via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Hi, > I've been trying to get on the Montgomery boats site but can't find it. > Can you help? > Thanks > John Edwards > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 220, Issue 16 *************************************************

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Re: Montgomery site?
by Dave Scobie 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

John: When looking for a Mboat I recommend the following - Set up a search keyword alert on Craigslist for areas the boats are more-ish common: greater Seattle, greater Portland, central and southern California, Minneapolis/St.Paul. Boats are listed on the MSOG.org site - look at the navigation menu for 'for sail/to buy'. Note: the list isn't maintained so once a boat is listed it isn't removed when sold ... so look at boats recently listed. Also check www.sailingtexas.com/cboats.html. This site, like MSOG.org, requires careful review as sold boats are often times not removed. Boats also are listed on the MSOG Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/groups/330782353662726/?ref=share. (an excellent classic M17 owned by Gary Oberbeck was just listed) And, obviously, some boats do get listed in this listproc. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 12:54 PM Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com> wrote: > Dave, > I'm looking for some early m17 sailboats for sale preferably on the east > coast. I think they use to be listed on Montgomery owners group (or > something like that). > > Thanks > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > To: Saltm17 <saltm17(a)aol.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 10:55 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: Montgomery site? > > Which site are you referring to John? > > msogphotosite.com > MSOG.org > Facebook page > Other > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 6:43 PM Saltm17 via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I've been trying to get on the Montgomery boats site but can't find it. > Can you help? > Thanks > John Edwards > >

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Motor mount
by Cap Keith 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

Hello all, Just a quick question… I own a M17, 1980 model. Purchased with an attached, adjustable motor mount thru-bolted where the cut out for an outboard. Question: Why not use the existing, cut-out for say, a 4-5hp motor? (Wanting to re-power). Keith K Ginger Snap Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Garboard Drain
by Sailing Spark 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

Like I am sure many of you do, my M17 spends the winter on her trailer (she's actually been on her trailer for over a year now thanks to the pandemic) and I was considering a garboard drain to keep water from pooling inside while she is stored. I had one in my old SeaSprite 23 with it's long and deep keel, it did a good job of keeping any water that got past the companionway from filling up the bilge and I was considering doing this to the Monty as well. Has anybody done so? Art M17 #406

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M15 forestay
by Peter Zimowsky 26 Jun '21

26 Jun '21

Hi: What is the measurement of the M15 forestay? Want to check with others before I order a new one. And, where do most of you get shroulds and forestays? Thanks, Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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