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Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler
by Jared Prindle 04 May '18

04 May '18

Thanks guys…I think it’s all good advice and stories. I do have some great sails made my HP (with luff tape) and I suppose I should learn how to remove the 150 and install the 135 and try that one out even before I go any further. I guess in my mind I was used to running something large in the morning and then being able to switch to a 90 later in the day. I’ll learn my CDI better and see what I can do with it. Oh and I never really race but I’m always trying to keep good speed and to some degree, I’m "racing" myself. > On May 4, 2018, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. second stay with roller furler (Jared Prindle) > 2. second stay with roller furler (Thomas Buzzi) > 3. Re: second stay with roller furler (Larry Yake) > 4. Re: second stay with roller furler (swwheatley(a)comcast.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 20:15:42 -0700 > From: Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: <9E093774-CF3D-48F1-85E2-98FB5E05E8D1(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 22:42:21 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWdO+9F6gSuWBhHA+zW1LFun32SmN7hnjG2ds6GtRx+2Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > These are FUN boats to fool around with. I was considering an inner stay > and then be able to use a stasail and a yankee with the main. Then I > realized, with such a tiny "J" measurement where is all that stuff going to > fit on the foredeck? A 17 foot boat on a 15' foot waterline. Displacing, > what 1600#'s? > I am guilty as anybody of "sailboatitice". Imflammation and swelling of how > big I think my 17' Monty is. When redoing mine I wanted to get rid of the > "bleach bottle" look inside so I installed "beadboard" paneling. I was > concerned that once I cut holes in the athwartship bulkhead by the mast > step that bulkhead would buckle. I did see that happen on a friend's Monty. > So I installed a 3/4 inch plywood bulkhead attached to the existing one, > which I then paneled. Because I had trouble with an older boat (and a > larger one) running out of electricity I installed a series 27 battery in > my Monty instead of the Series 24. When I saw that the hatchboards were > what I thought too thin to take a boarding sea (like I was going to cross > the Atlantic in my 17) I remade them out of very dense Mahogany 3/4 inch > thick. Then added a five pound porthole in the top board so I could stay > below and watch those boarding seas. I replaced a 20# stock mahogany rudder > with a "bluewater" level kickup one by Ruddercraft ( a thing of beauty) > which weighs 43 pounds. To make a long story interminable, when I finally > launched the boat the boot stripe never again saw the light of day. The > next time I informally race another boat I probably will end up jettisoning > all the extra anchors, lifejackets, lines, whisker poles and an 11' "poling > pole" to push myself off the sandbars I can no longer float over. > Next project is to run all the lines from the mast around the main hatch > (which I beefed up just in case a large person stepped on it) to another > winch and various turning blocks and jam cleats to I won't have to make the > LONG trek up to the mast to adjust any lines. > Walter Mittey is my hero. I do get to read a lot of names on other boats' > transoms too. These are fun boats to use though. When I recently paid a > small fortune to Seabrook Marine Service to do a "proper" bottom job on my > Monty it ended up looking like they let someone's child have at it with a > swab mop. When I queried the manager about it he demurely said " I wouldn't > take that racing". So who races anyway? I just load up my dream boat and > imagine far flung sandy shores that will forever remain in my mind's eye > only. > Gee these are fun boats!!! > Fair winds, > Tom B, Monty 17, #258, "AS-IS" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:14:44 -0700 > From: Larry Yake <larryyake(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: > <CANjZbonYRigoMrYrgOsaojjDznz_Rsvusp9rMfexVpB3ZA0Mdg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Does your genoa have a luff tape to help take the fullness out of the sail > as it is furled? I have a 150 on a CDI and I never change it out, but then > I sail in the PNW where we have lighter winds most of the time than some > areas of the country. With the luff tape it will keep a "decent" shape down > to about a 90, but you wouldn't want to race with it. For cruising it's > fine and I've sailed with it like that in 40 knot gusts. > > On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many >> questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I >> believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like >> it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of >> you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller >> upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing >> the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do >> while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner >> stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? >> dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up >> beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your >> headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 13:14:29 -0400 > From: <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: <00f501d3e3cb$60e6efd0$22b4cf70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would just convert back to hank-on sails before I started messing around with an inner forestay. > > Have you used the 135 much? That is what most roller-furler owners end up with and if it was designed and built by someone who knows what they're doing (look for a padded luff and a raised clew) you might be pleasantly surprised with how versatile it is. Unless you do most of your sailing in light winds (say under 10 kts) you won't miss the 150 much and a 135 with a padded luff can furl down to the equivalent of about a 90 and still maintain decent sail shape, provided you also move the jib sheet lead blocks forward to maintain correct sail twist. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Jared Prindle > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 11:16 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > > Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 3 > ************************************************

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second stay with roller furler
by Jared Prindle 04 May '18

04 May '18

Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I’ll probably have many questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I believe is a 150% headsail. It’s in really good condition and it feels like it’s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But…what do all of you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do while sailing…just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same “I” dimension so that doesn’t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your headsail, what are you CDI owners doing?

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second stay with roller furler
by Thomas Buzzi 03 May '18

03 May '18

These are FUN boats to fool around with. I was considering an inner stay and then be able to use a stasail and a yankee with the main. Then I realized, with such a tiny "J" measurement where is all that stuff going to fit on the foredeck? A 17 foot boat on a 15' foot waterline. Displacing, what 1600#'s? I am guilty as anybody of "sailboatitice". Imflammation and swelling of how big I think my 17' Monty is. When redoing mine I wanted to get rid of the "bleach bottle" look inside so I installed "beadboard" paneling. I was concerned that once I cut holes in the athwartship bulkhead by the mast step that bulkhead would buckle. I did see that happen on a friend's Monty. So I installed a 3/4 inch plywood bulkhead attached to the existing one, which I then paneled. Because I had trouble with an older boat (and a larger one) running out of electricity I installed a series 27 battery in my Monty instead of the Series 24. When I saw that the hatchboards were what I thought too thin to take a boarding sea (like I was going to cross the Atlantic in my 17) I remade them out of very dense Mahogany 3/4 inch thick. Then added a five pound porthole in the top board so I could stay below and watch those boarding seas. I replaced a 20# stock mahogany rudder with a "bluewater" level kickup one by Ruddercraft ( a thing of beauty) which weighs 43 pounds. To make a long story interminable, when I finally launched the boat the boot stripe never again saw the light of day. The next time I informally race another boat I probably will end up jettisoning all the extra anchors, lifejackets, lines, whisker poles and an 11' "poling pole" to push myself off the sandbars I can no longer float over. Next project is to run all the lines from the mast around the main hatch (which I beefed up just in case a large person stepped on it) to another winch and various turning blocks and jam cleats to I won't have to make the LONG trek up to the mast to adjust any lines. Walter Mittey is my hero. I do get to read a lot of names on other boats' transoms too. These are fun boats to use though. When I recently paid a small fortune to Seabrook Marine Service to do a "proper" bottom job on my Monty it ended up looking like they let someone's child have at it with a swab mop. When I queried the manager about it he demurely said " I wouldn't take that racing". So who races anyway? I just load up my dream boat and imagine far flung sandy shores that will forever remain in my mind's eye only. Gee these are fun boats!!! Fair winds, Tom B, Monty 17, #258, "AS-IS"

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M17 Compression Post
by Jared Prindle 01 May '18

01 May '18

I’ve picked up a “new to me” M17 #645. I noticed that there’s a short little compression post underneath the liner but that this little compression post doesn’t line up with main chrome compression post. Is this unusual? It seems strange to me as I can’t see why they don’t line up and support each other better but maybe I’ll need to take a second look. jared

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 1
by Jared Prindle 01 May '18

01 May '18

Ok great. Thanks for the info Bob. We took her out over the weekend and had a lot of fun. Unfortunately I haven’t wired the shrouds to the spreaders so I was afraid to push her much thinking loosing a mast would be a bad start. Next weekend… > On May 1, 2018, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jib furling line routing on M17 (GARY M HYDE) > 2. M17 Compression Post (Jared Prindle) > 3. Re: M17 Compression Post (Bob Eeg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:41:17 -0700 > From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jib furling line routing on M17 > Message-ID: <B77878C7-5FE7-44E0-AC4C-7A0F6575ACA7(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Have a great time Larry! > GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ > Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. > Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere. > >> On Apr 27, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Larry Yake <larryyake(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Gary, >> >> Yes, same as the trip to Desolation Sound, but driving a lot further up >> Vancouver Island. Good to hear from you. >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:20 PM, GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> wrote: >> >>> Larry: >>> Sounds like a fun trip. Do you ferry to Duke point and trailer up from >>> there? >>> GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ >>> Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad >>> judgment. >>> Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere. >>> >>>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Larry Yake <larryyake(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are launching clear up at Port McNeil. Actually, Telegraph Cove >>> Marina, >>>> just south of the town, where we will also leave our trailers and tow >>>> vehicles for three weeks. That puts you right into the archipelago >>> without >>>> the long passages non-trailerables have to make to get there. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 6:16 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Where do you launch, to go to the Broughton islands? >>>>> That is, how far do you actually sail to get there, or do you launch >>> close >>>>> by at N. end of Sunshine coast or up near N. end of Vancover island? >>>>> >>>>> Contemplating a couple trips up that way, maybe not quite so far north >>> but >>>>> who knows...later this season. One probably with my kayak, but another >>> at >>>>> some point with my Monty. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/25/2018 04:38 PM, Larry Yake wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Deer Park, in the northeastern part of the state, but I do a lot of my >>>>>> cruising over on your side. Usually hit the San Juans and Gulf Islands >>> a >>>>>> couple times a year with a small group of friends. This year we're >>> heading >>>>>> up to the Broughton's in mid July. Over here I sail the north Idaho >>> lakes >>>>>> - Priest and Pend Oreille being my favorites. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I notice that your registration is Washington State. What part of >>>>>>> Washington? >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> M-15 # 335 >>>>>>> South Puget Sound >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Larry Yake >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:41 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jib furling line routing on M17 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a picture of my layout on CornDog. I routed it tight along the >>> toe >>>>>>> rail so it's not underfoot. Works very well. Perhaps not clear in the >>>>>>> picture is that there is a fairlead on the pulpit which guides the >>> line >>>>>>> directly into the furler. Small blocks guide it along the toe rail, >>> and >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> is cleated in a cam cleat on top of the coaming. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 5:05 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mine is outboard on the edge of the cabin top where there is a slight >>>>>>>> crease. for the line to lay in.> >>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>> "We Can Not Control the Wind >>>>>>>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 4:31 PM, John Schinnerer < >>> john(a)eco-living.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks George & others who replied...I was contemplating a similar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> routing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think. Quick question, in absence of pics: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do your furling lines run outboard, or inboard, of the cabin-top > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> handrail >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (assuming you have one)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> John S. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 04/24/2018 02:19 PM, George Iemmolo wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just pulled my M15 out of the garage to get it ready for splash mid >>>>>>>>>> May >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> noticed that I had used 4 eye straps to lead the furling line aft. >>> I >>>>>>>>>> forgot >>>>>>>>>> the one just ahead of the jam cleat on the starboard side cabin >>> roof?. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>>>> 96 M15 #602 >>>>>>>>>> Merry Helen II >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>>>> "We Can Not Control the Wind >>>>>>>>>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Randy Sommerfeld < >>>>>>>>>> sommerfeldrandy(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe I should explain that I have had 2 two M17, first one was a >>> 1979 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> which did not have a roller furling. My current M17 which I >>>>>>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> from Bob in 2010 and put on the roller furling. Both boats were >>>>>>>>>>> named >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Worries, I am not very creative. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I bought my first M17 from Crows Nest yachts in Woodbury MN in the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1990?s, sailed on Lake Menomin, Lake Pepin and once on Lake >>> Superior. >>>>>>>>>>> Moved on to bigger boats, but missed it, so told myself that if >>> I >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>>>> afford to buy a nother one I would. So in 2009 I ordered it and >>>>>>>>>>> drove >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> to California and pulled it back to Wisconsin in August of 2010, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pictured >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That would be awesome to see my first M17 again, a of lot fond >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> memories >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sailing with the family. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Dan Farrell >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 8:38 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Msog List >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jib furling line routing on M17 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Randy, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you since sold no worries, I probably own her now; that's still >>>>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>>>> name and the fairleads are mostly still in place, though the >>> roller >>>>>>>>>>> furling >>>>>>>>>>> has since been removed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If that was your boat, I'd love to hear any history you may be >>> able >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> share. I'm curious about her history. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe just a coincidence? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dan Farrell >>>>>>>>>>> M17 #301 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Randy Sommerfeld <sommerfeldrandy(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On my M17, I did it just like George did, except I did it on the >>> port >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> side, using eye straps to keep things going in the right >>>>>>>>>>> direction. I >>>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>>> a small pulley, (block) by the furling unit so the line would not >>>>>>>>>>> bind >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> anything. No problems. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Randy Sommerfeld >>>>>>>>>>>> No Worries >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: George Iemmolo >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 4:53 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Jib furling line routing on M17 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> On my M15 I routed the furling line down the starboard side of >>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> deck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>> along the edge of the cabin and along its top in the cabin >>> crease to >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> jam >>>>>>>>>>>> cleat at the end of the cabin top. I used 3 small eye straps to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> line in it's journey. Be sure to place the first one so that the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> furling >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> line is perpendicular to the forestay to prevent it jamming in the >>>>>>>>>>>> fuller This keeps it out of the way ?of the main halyard that is >>> led >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> aft >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> also. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>>>>>> "We Can Not Control the Wind >>>>>>>>>>>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:43 PM, John Schinnerer < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> john(a)eco-living.net> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Those of you with a furling jib on your M17 - where/how did you >>>>>>>>>>>>> route >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> furling line? Pictures appreciate if available. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And, how happy are you with it, would you change anything that >>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it better (more convenient, simpler, less likely to foul/snag/trip >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> over, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> etc.). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Eco-Living - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>>>>>>>>>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>>>>>>>>>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://eco-living.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> - Eco-Living - >>>>>>>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>>>>>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>>>>>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>>>>>>> http://eco-living.net >>>>>>>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> - Eco-Living - >>>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>>> http://eco-living.net >>>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:04:17 -0700 > From: Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post > Message-ID: <37A53CA8-3509-4DB1-BF98-AD1028F1D090(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I?ve picked up a ?new to me? M17 #645. I noticed that there?s a short little compression post underneath the liner but that this little compression post doesn?t line up with main chrome compression post. Is this unusual? It seems strange to me as I can?t see why they don?t line up and support each other better but maybe I?ll need to take a second look. > jared > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 00:40:17 +0000 > From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats(a)hotmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post > Message-ID: > <CY4PR17MB1975DB7F6C697370B471F5CCB7810(a)CY4PR17MB1975.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Normal. The lower post supports a bridge to the forward bulkhead of the liner. > Congrats on the new 17 > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 30, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I?ve picked up a ?new to me? M17 #645. I noticed that there?s a short little compression post underneath the liner but that this little compression post doesn?t line up with main chrome compression post. Is this unusual? It seems strange to me as I can?t see why they don?t line up and support each other better but maybe I?ll need to take a second look. >> jared > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 1 > ************************************************

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Two M17's FOR SALE
by hgro＠windstream.net 01 May '18

01 May '18

Must thin out the fleet. I have two 1977's of which one is the FD model, hull #105 (red). Both are complete, some assembly required, with trailers, & probably original sails (except hull #242's are Reggie Armstrong. FD has spinnaker & pole. Both keels are "free". Asking $2500 for cabin model & $4000 for the FD. Would take $5500 for both. Thanks for any interest. Harry G. Rowe, 14900 N. Orleans Trail, Stockton, MISSOURI, 65785, hgro(a)windstream.net, or (417) 276-7794.

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