April 2011 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 14 Jul '13

14 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Rebedding deck hardware
by Daniel Rich 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

Montypals: Just got #208 from Bob Becker. Nice craft. Just did the driveway sail today in preparation for a real sail soon! A couple of the through deck fittings are leaking a bit. These may be leaking through the section of wood core on the deck. There is no weakness there that I can feel. I noted a bit of water in the cabin after the big rain we had even with the boat covered. I can see the fitting that is leaking. What is the best way to deal with this, and what products do I need? I read somewhere that I should remove the fitting, use a bent nail or something on a drill bit to get out some of the core, and epoxy it first. Then redrill and seat with polyurethane sealer? Have I got the right idea here? What products to use? Daniel

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M-17 for sale
by Arnold Sharpe 03 May '11

03 May '11

My Monty Friends, I am selling My M-17, "Little Breeze",,,,Hull #265. Next week I will place an Ad on Craigslist Portland, Oregon but wish to alert you folks first. She is an olde but a goode and has given us 4 years of sailing fun but we have moved up to a Dolphin 24 and I can't afford two boats. Regards...Arnold Sharpe

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M17 373 New electrical panel
by Earl Landers 03 May '11

03 May '11

Hi, Because the old fuse panel on my boat was showing some corrosion, I wanted to do an upgrade. I like the new location above the seat back, because it is much easier to read the labels. Not having to stand on my head to see which switch is the running lights is a good thing. Picture at link; #373 New Panels <http://www.facebook.com/media/set/fbx/?set=a.178563832181472.37636.10000083 5691253&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=198311686873353&set=a.178563832181472.37636.1 00000835691253&type=1&theater> And, here is a preview of my next mod. Overhead console <http://www.facebook.com/media/set/fbx/?set=a.178563832181472.37636.10000083 5691253&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=198311713540017&set=a.178563832181472.37636.1 00000835691253&type=1&theater> Earl Landers

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Depth Finder suggestions?
by Earl Landers 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

Hello, First, please pardon me for filling your mailboxes, but I have another question. I am looking for a depth indicator for my M17. I am leaning toward the Uniden QT206 because of its low current requirement. Does anyone have experience with the in hull transducer? Where did you mount the transducer? Thanks, Earl Landers

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Re: M_Boats: Tack of the jib and main M15
by Doug Kelch 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

For the jib tack you use a shackle through the tack and the hole in the deck fiting just in back of the forestay. For the main there should be a casting at the forward end of the boom with two opposing tabs with a pin between them. Move the pin to the side and pit the tack grommet between the tabs and slide the pin through the grommet and the opposite tab. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone Karen and Smiley <magoo252(a)comcast.net> wrote: >How do you attach the tack of the jib and main for the M15. I see no hook >for the jib tack and I assume I will use a down haul of sorts for the main >sail? Advise and Thanks Smiley > > > >Smiley > >magoo252(a)comcast.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Jib sheets
by Kevin Lynch 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

Thanks Judy, the picture looked like plastic coated lifelines and I guess my hunch about the whisker pole was correct. I'll keep your safety precautions in mind. Kevin M15 #200 Wee Fun

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Are we stupid ?
by Karen and Smiley 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

My wife and I are thinking of sleeping in our new to us Monty 15 to figure out its logistics for camping in the cockpit. Yeah thinking to make this as authentic as possible to move the boat to the parking lot at the school yard and do the camping thing. This may show use things we need to prepare for when we are actually going to do it and test the lighting Stan installed. How did you guys do a dry run for your first night sleep over? Thanks Another Wrinkle #616 Smiley and Karen magoo252(a)comcast.net

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Info on M15 and M17 Sailplans
by Judith Blumhorst, DC 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

Hello all, Some Mboat owners are asking me to order Hyde sails for them and I'm writing to you to see if I can get the right specs somewhere. Can someone confirm the correct I J P and E dimensions for both boats? If somebody could, I'd be very grateful. For example, I have measured a used M15 mainsail that measures 7.25' on the foot, but the specs on on the MSOG website and the Harken Data Base say it should be 7.83'. I'd love to have sailplan drawings or dimensions for all the sails as originally designed for both boats (not Sailrite dimensions!)? I'd love to see a drawing telling me what the Luff, leach and foot dimensions are. Thanks so much in advance, Kind regards, Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails USA, Northern California judyb(a)hydesailsUSA.com cell: 925.997.0786 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails USA, Northern California judyb(a)hydesailsUSA.com cell: 925.997.0786 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica

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