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Re: M_Boats: Hull Cleaner
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 07 May '07

07 May '07

Skip, I had a similar experience last year when I parked my Flicka/trailer under a redwood tree. It was the time of the year these trees drop their tiny little tannin bombs everywhere. I went to West and purchased all the recommended acid cleaners (Mary Kate, Boat Life, etc.) and none of them even touched the thousands of red/brown stains on my deck. I tried virtually every solvent and cleaner know to man before I eyed a bottle of household bleach across the workshop. I poured a little (full strength) on one of the stains and it vanished instantly. The entire deck cleaned up perfectly within an hour. I wouldn't be surprised if the stains you are experiencing would respond similarly. Apparently many waterborne stains are tannins from tree leaves, etc., that concentrate in certain bodies of water. Sincerely, Scott G. 1991 M15 #478 (the other #478) 'bebe' 1990 Pacific Seacraft Flicka In a message dated 5/7/07 10:41:30 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com writes: > Does anyone know of any special cleaners that will remove the film from the > hull of my boat. My boat was nice and clean when the season started, but > now after I have sailed in the Baltimore Harbor a few times my boat has a > brownish film along the water line. I have tried to clean it, but nothing seems > to help. I have tried power washing, Simply Green, Acetone, Componding, Black > Steak Remover & CLR. Is there something I'm missing?? I'm beginning to > think my only solution is to wet sand the hull. Any ideas would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Skip > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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RE: M_Boats: M17 for sale
by bill safford 07 May '07

07 May '07

At $17K, I'd say that's pretty ambitious or optimistic. A 2005 model will have depreciated about 30%. $14.5K to $14.7K is the going rate for a clean boat, motor and trailer.> From: Thebaldyone2(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:37:03 -0400> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M17 for sale> > This months latitude 38 lists a Montgomery 17. 2005 model outboard, > galvanized trailer. Call Dan 951-678-4696. Listed in the ad at $17,400.> I saw this and thought maybe one of us might give him a call. > Good luck, Ken Dado, _thebaldyone2(a)aol.com_ (mailto:thebaldyone2@aol.com) > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Try PC Magazine隆炉s 2007 editors隆炉 choice for best Web mail, award-winning Windows Live Hotmail! http://get.live.com/mail/features

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M17 for sale
by Thebaldyone2＠aol.com 07 May '07

07 May '07

This months latitude 38 lists a Montgomery 17. 2005 model outboard, galvanized trailer. Call Dan 951-678-4696. Listed in the ad at $17,400. I saw this and thought maybe one of us might give him a call. Good luck, Ken Dado, _thebaldyone2(a)aol.com_ (mailto:thebaldyone2@aol.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Hull Cleaner
by Rick Langer 07 May '07

07 May '07

I'd try a pressure washer with one of those cleaners. A good practice is to pressure wash before the gunk dries on the hull. Abbey Gura has a 20+ year old M15 that really looks new. He always stops at a car wash on the way home. I don't, but I think it's a good idea. Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird

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Hull cleaner
by Dick Straubel 07 May '07

07 May '07

Try "Barkeeper's Friend" -- available at Walmart. Comes in a tall, gold, cardboard cylinder like the old cleansers. Very fine polishing material with oxalic acid to eliminate stains. Works great, hasn't scratched yet (think it is a descendant of the old Bon Ami -- they just added oxalic acid). --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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hull cleaner/ waterline stain
by brian gilbert 07 May '07

07 May '07

Hi Skip: What you have is a case of "waterway smile," as we called it in Charleston, SC. It's caused by tannic acid from oak leaves that fall into the water. You can use fancy cleaners if you want, but if you can find it, you can use a mild solution of straight oxalic acid. I bought a bag at Ross Marine in Charleston when I last hauled out... I believe it was a few bucks for a big plastic bag of crystals... but this was probably fifteen years ago. I dissolved about a quarter cup of crystals in a gallon of water, brushed on, and the stain faded before I had a chance to scrub. I understand it work well on rust stains and blood, too. Try the boatyards near the harbor (if there are any left) or a janitorial service company that services the industry. It's possible that oxalic is the main ingredient in "oxy-clean" and other household cleaners, but then you're paying for labels and packaging. Good luck. If you try to find it, let me know what you discover. Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor Marine Media 3404 Hartford Dr Chattanooga, TN 37415 From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 11:41:16 -0600 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 51, Issue 4 David, It is definitely a stain. It reminds me of tea stains inside your favorite morning mug. I'll give your suggestions a try later this week. It's tough getting to West Marine on a week night after work. Thanks, Skip

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Re: Hull Cleaner
by Scott Simpson 07 May '07

07 May '07

I have always used Soft Scrub (with bleach) with great success to remove stubborn stains and oxidation on fiberglass hulls & non-skid decks. From my experience, Soft Scrub even bleaches the black dingy stuff off untreated teak, giving it that golden, new look. The smooth fiberglass areas should then be followed with a wash and polish to regain and protect the gel coat's shine. I buy the stuff by the case. Use caution on painted surfaces. Scott Simpson West of One 300 3rd Street, # 903 San Francisco, CA 94107 415. 328.2668 scott(a)westofone.com www.westofone.com

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Hull Cleaner
by wcampion＠aol.com 07 May '07

07 May '07

Does anyone know of any special cleaners that will remove the film from the hull of my boat. My boat was nice and clean when the season started, but now after I have sailed in the Baltimore Harbor a few times my boat has a brownish film along the water line. I have tried to clean it, but nothing seems to help. I have tried power washing, Simply Green, Acetone, Componding, Black Steak Remover & CLR. Is there something I'm missing?? I'm beginning to think my only solution is to wet sand the hull. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Skip "Wild Guppy" 1982 M-15 #201 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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Hull Cleaner
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 07 May '07

07 May '07

Skip, Before you sand, you might try going to your local West Marine or chandlery and purchase a bottle of "On and Off" by the Mary Kate company. It is a very strong bottom cleaner. It wont hurt the fiberglass.Don't get it on your trailer paint, though. I use rubber gloves and a diaper rag. I pour some of the stuff onto the rag and wipe it on the boat. So far I haven't seen any bottom grunge that it won't wipe off. Immediately follow the wipe with a hose off. If it works like I think it will it'll be a lot easier than sanding. Hope that helps. Sean M23 Dauntless www.havasumontgomeys.funtigo.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Memorial Day weekend cruise on the Chesapeake
by Doug Kelch 03 May '07

03 May '07

I am starting to plan a 3 or 4 day cruise on the Chesapeake over Memorial Day weekend. The cruise can be arranged so you can join us for 2,3 or 4days. The likely area is the Coptank river on the Eastern Shore. Please respond off list with your dates of interest and boat type. If you are on my Midwest/Eastern US list you will get a duplicate of this message. If you are not on my private list let me know and I will add you for future opportunities. Thanks Doug Kelch doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com M15 #310 "Seas the Day" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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