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My M15 centerboard pin almost fell out!
by Donglai Gong 24 Aug '07

24 Aug '07

Hello all, I took my M15 "Shaolin" out for first sail of the season in the Sandy Hook bay area (by NJ). We had a great time on the water and did some beach hopping. I encountered two major issues. 1) My Honda 2hp is burning oil and start to smoke badly when I ramp up the RPM. We had to shut it off to let it cool before turning it back on again. It worked fine afterwards in speed just above idle, we cruised at 2 knots or so with the motor all afternoon. Any ideas on what could be causing the oil burn? Oil also leaks out of the exhaust pipe if I ramp up the engine. 2) My centerboard pin almost fell out. After I towed the boat out of the water, I saw that the centerboard pin is stuck out way on one side. I could push it mostly back in with just hand force. I don't want is to sail along and have my centerboard fall out on me next time we go out. I'd appreciate any idea or suggestions on these two problems. Thanks! Donglai "Shaolin" M15 #612

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Re: M_Boats: San Juan rendezvous
by bownez＠juno.com 31 May '07

31 May '07

HI Larry and the San Juan Sailors! You folks are going to have a tremendous time, I wish you the best of conditions and I would love to be there to join you. Don't let Dick Lane tell too many stories, and see if Sean can keep his jaw from being agape beholding the beauty of the San Juans...... Hope you get to witness pods of Orca again. Take lots of pics. Later, Bones in Mpls North Channel for me NEXT week.

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re: mystery smell
by Steve R. 31 May '07

31 May '07

If you can not smell the odor with the cushions in place that makes me second guess myself. The only time I recall opening the forward hatch was when I initially cleaned the boat out. I used at least a pint of acetone in the process, maybe a quart. The overhead was pretty grimy and there were stains in the cabin locker compartments as well as below the cockpit. If there was uncured resin anywhere I think I would have eliminated it with the acetone, and with all that acetone I may never have smelled the resin. I was shocked when I cut the opening for my cockpit seat hatches at how intense the aroma of resin was. I will try to remember to check if my forward compartment has a resin odor. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ********************************************************************** bill - if you want i can take a picture of my M15 that has the original bow foam pieces in place. the space is also not filled ... and does still smell like the boat factory when the forward hatch is open (when the hatch and v-berth cushions in place i'm sure the smell is contained as i've never 'got that smell' unless i'm digging in the forward locker). david scobie M15 #288 (not yet named)

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San Juan rendezvous
by Larry E Yake 30 May '07

30 May '07

The 4th annual San Juan Island rendezvous will kick off this weekend in Anacortes, Wa. Boats will be arriving Friday and Saturday to get launched and take care of all the last minute preparations. We'll have 4 M17's (ranging from a 1976 to a 2005 model, including a rare full keel version coming clear up from Texas), 3 classic M23's from Washington, Oregon, and Arizona, 1 or 2 M15's, and a former M23 owner in his Nonsuch 26 joining in. The opening weekend will be like a car show, with skippers checking out each others boats, polishing the "chrome", and just lots of messing about in boats. Great time to drop in for a visit. We'd love to see you. If you want to come see us off, talk to the skippers, or just check out the Monty's, come on down to the Cap Sante Boat Haven at the Port of Anacortes anytime from Friday evening through Sunday morning. We shouldn't be hard to find, or just ask for the Monty group at the Port office. Sunday morning we'll sail into the islands. We might come back a week later. (Ha!) If you ever get a chance to sail the San Juans, you'll know what I mean. Larry Yake

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Re: M_Boats: mystery smell
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 30 May '07

30 May '07

In all seriousness, Catalina Yachts (////) was using plastic gallon jugs with the caps glued and taped on to the bottle filled with the best floatation AIR, these would be attached, albeit loosely, to the interior underdecks with additional tape in a daisy chain manner. Worked well - does not absorb water, or emit fumes, cheapest floation, and easily serviced. Worth considering kind of a green version - why involve formaldehyde and urea??? Just locally acquired AIR! GO pushin enuf for this month- back to lurk mode. Go Sean and Jo! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: M_Boats: mystery smell
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 30 May '07

30 May '07

Tom, Tecate cans have been show to NOT generate that pesky and bothersome static electricity. FYI. GO M-17 #316a ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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mystery smell
by dmostue＠comcast.net 30 May '07

30 May '07

I have been cleaning up my M15 and when I opened the storage area under the V-berth it really smelled. I pulled out all the styrofoam and began scrubing but it still stinks. I wonder now if it is coming from the styrofoam under the cockpit. I don't see how to remove that foam. Has anyone else had this problem. How do I deodorize the area below? I want to be able to sleep in there and I don't think I can. Thanks. Dan Mostue M15 #500

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mystery smell
by Rick Langer 30 May '07

30 May '07

Sorry to all for the previous post. I was trying to cut and hit send in error. Steve, I haven't cut any holes up there and I don't see any evidence that anyone else has either. I'm sure the smell is polyester resin, but not that clear on why, after 22 years it can still be smelt. When I got the boat (4 years ago) the forward locker was screwed down, so maybe it was never opened in 18 years. I have noticed the smell has decrease a little, but I don't open that locker all that much either. That locker was never painted. Maybe the smell would go away if it were painted. Now that I think of it, Frank Durant's new M15 didn't have a painted forward locker either. I think it smelled of polyester, but after all it was a new boat. Rick > From: "Steve R." <stever707(a)mail.saabnet.com> > Subject: M_Boats: re: mystery smell > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <20070528172313.C98B107C(a)resin13.mta.everyone.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Rick there is something wrong if you smell a strong resin odor. I have > smelled it in my boat when I sawed or drilled a opening, but when I coated > the edges with epoxy for waterproofing that took care of the odor. Have > you or a PO possibly cut a hole somewhere and not sealed it? > > steve > > Steve R. > M-15 #119 > Lexington, KY

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mystery smell
by Rick Langer 30 May '07

30 May '07

> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 17:23:13 -0700 > From: "Steve R." <stever707(a)mail.saabnet.com> > Subject: M_Boats: re: mystery smell > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <20070528172313.C98B107C(a)resin13.mta.everyone.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Rick there is something wrong if you smell a strong resin odor. I have > smelled it in my boat when I sawed or drilled a opening, but when I coated > the edges with epoxy for waterproofing that took care of the odor. Have > you or a PO possibly cut a hole somewhere and not sealed it? > > steve > > Steve R. > M-15 #119 > Lexington, KY > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 01:44:01 EDT > From: Nebwest2(a)aol.com > Subject: M_Boats: Honda 5 hp > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <ca3.105b69b7.338d17a1(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I agree with the previous posters that a bad connection in the fuel line > will lead to the problems you are having. I just learned a new glitch that > can > also cuase the same problems. My Yamaha kept losing power then dying > after > running for a few minutes at low rpm. When I would check the bulb it would > be > soft and if I kept pumping it occasionaly the motor would continue to run > fine. > I changed every fitting, tightened every clamp, even changed complete fuel > lines and still had the same problem. A knowledgeable friend figured it > out in > a bout 2 seconds. He told me I probably had a very small pinhole in one > of > the fuel pump diaphragms. As long as the motor was revved up the pump > was > still strong enough to draw fuel through the primer bulb's check valve. > As soon > as I idled down it wasn't strong enough to draw through the check valve. > As > soon as it exausted the available fuel on the engine side of the primer > bulb > it would crap out. Pump the bulb a few times and it would fire right back > up. > I bought a diaphragm from boats.net for about $15.00, put it in which was > a > piece of cake, and whamo! she's running like a top again. > > Heading out tomorrow morning for the 1300+ mile drive to meet up with > Larry > and the gang in the San Juans. It's gonna be a long trip to get up there > but > we are really excited..and believe it or not there are folks coming from > a > lot further away then we are.....all the way from Texas in fact! We > should > arrive in Anacortes Friday, early afternoon. The group will be having > dinner > together Saturday night in Anacortes and then heading out Sunday morning. > If your > a Monty owner/fan but can't make the trip (and live up that way) come on > down and say hi, we'd love to meet you. > > Sean and Jo > M23 Dauntless > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:59:54 EDT > From: TOMMYVAL(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda 5 hp > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <bde.13ffe5ca.338d61aa(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Tod, Clarence and Sean, > > Thanks for the helpful tips, I will be back to the boat on Saturday and I > will see if I can get her fixed. > Sean, sounds like a great trip If you get some good pictures please send > them along. > > Thanks > > Gary > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:47:32 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 first sail > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <20070529.054748.808.2371527(a)webmail07.lax.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Well said Gary, > > I had great sailing on my M23 over the weekend as well. > There are two Hess boats in my marina, mine and a Norsea 27. They seem > to turn the most heads and generate the most questions. > Kudos galore to Lyle, Jerry and Bob. > > Bones > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:22:57 EDT > From: Eeeisen(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda 5 hp > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <c6a.10d6413f.338dad61(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Just wanted to let y'all know that we have arrived in the Northwest from > Texas. We are currently in Everett, WA and will be heading up to Ancortes > Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning. We are so excited! The weather > has been > beautiful! Hope it stays this way. > > Eldor and Dorothy > Motu iti M-17 > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:52:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: M_Boats: M12 for sale west of tacoma, WA, on craigslist > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <703678.49319.qm(a)web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > for those 'rare find' montgomery fans i saw on the seattle-tacoma > craigslist an M12 (miss-described as an M13 in the ad) - > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/340464867.html > > > no rigging, but i'm sure great for those that love projects. > > (for those wanting to know, Belfair (WA) is at the 'end' of hood canal. > > > david scobie > M15 #288 (not yet named) > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:47:42 -0700 > From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > Subject: M_Boats: M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <ECEOJHJPPOBOKFDMDFFCMEFGDDAA.jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair > > Ok > > It has been almost 3 mo. 4 days 2 hrs 5 min since my last taste of rum. > After 3 days of chiseling out epoxy steel punching I am starting to think > about that jug I have stashed in the bilge how good a little sip would > taste. My mouth feels like dry rot. > > I will hold off at least until the sun dips below the yard arm. > > The steel is out!! > > Now what do I do? pellets or ingots? > > I really appreciate all the help and suggestions and moral support from > this > form. How I am able to help some one else. > > Captain Jim > > Sailing Vessel Pelican > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:00:22 -0700 > From: "jerry" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <008901c7a2dc$03aa0f50$80255142@jerrym> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It's a scientifically proven fact that enough rum will float all those > resin > particles right out of your pores. Go for it- you owe it to your body! > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:47 AM > Subject: M_Boats: M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican > > >> http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair >> >> Ok >> >> It has been almost 3 mo. 4 days 2 hrs 5 min since my last taste of rum. >> After 3 days of chiseling out epoxy steel punching I am starting to think >> about that jug I have stashed in the bilge how good a little sip would >> taste. My mouth feels like dry rot. >> >> I will hold off at least until the sun dips below the yard arm. >> >> The steel is out!! >> >> Now what do I do? pellets or ingots? >> >> I really appreciate all the help and suggestions and moral support from > this >> form. How I am able to help some one else. >> >> Captain Jim >> >> Sailing Vessel Pelican >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 > 1:01 PM >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:09:51 EDT > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <bdd.1344c74d.338f09df(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Ingots is a more manly soundin solution. > Goes better with the Rum too. > GO > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 51, Issue 18 > ************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Keel Surgery Sailing Vessel Pelican
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 30 May '07

30 May '07

Ingots is a more manly soundin solution. Goes better with the Rum too. GO ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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