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Re: M_Boats: MSOG site
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Works fine here with the oft slammed A oH hell. GO M-17 #316a ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: "Advice and Consent"
by John R. Butler 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

As a Newbie, I don't know all the protocol of this fine venue. I have three like-new sails and a good outboard surplus to my needs. Can I advertise them for sale here? .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - Sailing again. Praise the Lord!

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North Channel Cruise getting closer
by Doug Kelch 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

It's getting closer :-) I just wanted to remind you that the North Channel Montgomery cruise is still on for starting June 10th for up to two weeks. A couple of boats are only staying 1 week and a number of us are staying for two. It is a beautiful area to cruise so if you can join us please let me know off line. Thanks Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day" doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Trailer Tires-Plies or Radial's for an M15?
by Peter Deffenbacher 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hello All, I need some advice from all of you guy's and gal's. I will be dropping my wheel size from 13" to 12" to better fit in the garage and for the boat ramps that I use. Now, I will be able to make a fresh choise of tires. I currently have the cheaper trailer tires that don't balance too well. I won't name the brand but they are 2 Ply Tread/2 Ply Sidewall. I know Plies are stiffer but do the Radial's let the trailer move around too much? Thanks in advance, Peter D Peanut M15 #618 PS. Building of an M17. If you have an have a M17 I would recomemend viewing Scott Simpson's new boat being built. After our boats are built you will never have the same view again. Thank you Scott! And a big thanks to you Connie, you give us 50+ guys a great hope for the future (we're just kids}! Also I think it is almost donation time again, how do we donate to this board?

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Re: M_Boats: RE: Topping lift for M15
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

In a message dated 4/27/2007 3:42:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, nbundek(a)earthlink.net writes: http://msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b15norm/b15norm1.jpg I have a Boomkicker on my 17 and think it is the bee's knee's - NO weight aloft and adjustable with an existing bit of rigging - the boom vang. Follows my attempts at the K.I.S.S. credo, the Boomkickers are beautiful in their simplicity. Just saw them advertised in APS catalog that arrived yesterday to tempt my wallet with shiny cool things for the boat! NFIW. G.O. M-17 # 316a PS. If I want my halyard higher than the Boomkicker will carry it at mooring for cockpit cruising headroom - I just tie my Main haly to the outhaul and hoist away - No shackles at the haly ends either, main or headsail - less stuff - less weight - less money spent on 'redundant' things - they didn't use them in the "old" days. I use the figure 8 knot with an overhand thru the headboard or grommet. Gotta love it! Next time I sail with you I will give you a halyard shackle! ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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RE: Topping lift for M15
by Norm 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

I added a boom kicker on my M15 to hold my boom up while the main is down. You can see a picture of it on the Montgomery site: http://msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b15norm/b15norm1.jpg The boom kicker consists of two black fiber glass rods attached just forward of the boom vang. The boom kicker is holding up the mast in the photo without a topping lift. My M15 is in the foreground. Sean's buddy Scott brought his M17 ( Sean's old boat) to Ventura for an Anacapa Island sail last year. The white bag on my cabin top just below the boom kicker is a asymmetrical spinnaker. Norm M15 #172 Ventura, CA

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Naked photos of a M17 now online (#644 prior to hull/deck bond)
by Scott Simpson 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hey All, If anyone is interested in viewing photographs of a "naked" M17 (recently popped from the mold), they are available on my website www.westofone.com <http://www.westofone.com/> . Once you're there, click on "Gallery Area (+ one sailboat)". A fast internet connection is recommended. Over the next 4 weeks, I plan to add/delete images of #644 as she slowly progresses out the factory door. Cheers! Scott Simpson West of One 300 3rd Street, # 903 San Francisco, CA 94107 415. 328.2668 scott(a)westofone.com www.westofone.com

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Re: M_Boats: filling the cabin with the main & boom
by chbenneck＠juno.com 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Hi Skip, After raising the main sail, you have to slack off on the topping lift, so that the sail can achieve it's proper shape. How much to slack off....? Just enough so that the topping lift isn't carrying any of the weight of the boom and the main; i.e., the main is holding the boom, and the main has it's proper shape. If you don't slack off on the topping lift, you'll see that your main will be very "baggy", and the boat won't sail well. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: looking at a Montgomery 15
by chbenneck＠juno.com 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hi Bones, I tried sailing the lapstrakes off our M15 in all sorts of weather, but found that Jerry had built them so well that sailing them off was an impossibility. They didn't even show any signs of wear after their experience. Sailing our M15 LEPPO was an absolutely delightful experience - in any kind of weather - (been there: done that before) and my only regret is that Father Neptune was right when he tapped me on the shoulder two years ago to tell me that I wasn't getting any younger and it was about time for me to give up sailing "big" boats. Damn, I keep drinking good, proper Martinis - the type you build with 2/3 gin and 1/3 dry vermouth - with pearl onions as vitamins - but instead of growing younger I just keep getting older. Sheesh....! I may no longer be pointing the bow and heading for distant horizons, but at least the Martinis still are enjoyed every evening when the sun is below the yard arm. My sailing life has been a blast, starting when I sailing my schooner model at the Conservatory Lake in Central Park, New York as boy; through all the various nautical adventures I've encountered and mastered after that; on Long Island Sound; the Rhine; Scandinavia; Dutch / Belgian / and French Canals from Rotterdam to Paris; sailing the Isselmeer; down the English Channel to Le Havre; the Mediterranean; the Adriatic; the New England Coast .... what a ball; what fun (and some times of not so much fun - like sitting out a three day Nor'easter in Oak Bluffs Harbor, MA in 50 degree weather with green water coming over the bow from the waves rolling in through the harbor entrance ). For all you new sailors, forget all the bar talk - "there I was, lee rail under.... the wind was blowing 30 knots, ....the seas were building..... Reality is, 95% of your sailing experience is in very pleasant conditions (if you can't tell sea stories at the bar, then you don't belong to the gang... so everyone is exaggerating the horrendous conditions they experienced... my story is better than yours..) If you sail from Block Island to Cuttyhunk and the sun is shining; you have a SW wind of 10 - 12 knots; it's a beautiful sail; you have nothing to talk about; nothing you can boast about; no heroic conditions; just a 30 NM gentle sail under ideal conditions. That's what sailing is really all about. May you all enjoy broad reaches, good anchorages, and as much enjoyment as our family has had sailing for over 50 years. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO

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Connie and Lepo
by bownez＠juno.com 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hello Connie, Thank you for the wonderful post. I have enjoyed your contributions to the Monty List for years and I can only hope to have as rich of sailing life as you have had. I have a great boat, lots of water around me, and am winding down my work life, thus I an looking forward to many, many new anchorages and sailing experiences. Please stay in touch with all of us, even though Lepo is gone, you are still a valued member of the M-group. (loved the quip about Martini's, however my happy hour drink of choice is a Bloody Mary). Bones

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