May 2006 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

M8 on Craigslist, SF
by Bobbie Mayer 07 May '06

07 May '06

http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/157125841.html and another 10, minus the mast http://www.craigslist.org/eby/boa/156228666.html (I might go look at this one if it is still available- BIL is looking for a boat for his son. I would rather find one with a trailer, though, don't really want to cartop one to Washington. Bobbie

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M10 on Craigslist, SF
by Bobbie Mayer 07 May '06

07 May '06

http://www.craigslist.org/eby/boa/157995485.html

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Re: M_Boats: bow pulpit
by chbenneck＠juno.com 06 May '06

06 May '06

Hi Fran, I installed a bow pulpit on LEPPO. We're back to the old problem. Do you have tools? Do you have experience doing these kinds of modifications? Basically, assuming a YES to both of the above questions, it's a relatively simple matter of picking a location for the pulpit. Then you have to drill the holes for the mounting bolts, and because of the angles of the legs of the pulpit this is where it gets tricky. You won't be able to get a drill lined up the way you want to drill the three mounting holes in each of the pads. I drilled one hole, inserted a bolt and finger tightened it. Now the bow pulpit was relatively fixed, but you could still rotate it a bit to get it where you want it - i.e., centered and with even spacing of pads to toe rails. Then I drilled the second hole in a pad on the opposite side from the first one, which now locked me firmly in place. Put a bolt in there as well so that the pulpit doesn't move. Now you can mark the holes in the remaining pads on the surface of the deck. Remove the bolts, remove the pulpit and check the hole locations you marked using the backup plates that Bob Eeg provided as a template. If you put a bolt through the already drilled hole and tighten the nut finger tight, you can use the backup plate as a drill jig for drilling the remaining holes at each location. Once all the holes were drilled, I removed about an 1/8th inch of the balsa core inside the deck at each hole. I used a dental tool for the operation but a bent, cut off nail in a drill will remove the balsa. Then I mixed epoxy with microballons, put some masking tape over the bottoms of the holes inside the cabin to keep the epoxy from dripping down, and filled the holes with the epoxy mixture. When the epoxy had hardened, I re drilled all the holes. The reason for doing this is to keep any water that may seep down a bolt out of the balsa deck core. At this point try an assembly of the pulpit again; You may find that you have a hard time fitting the bolts in the holes and you'll then have to use a rat tail file to ease the holes a bit till it all goes together, and the backing plates fit on the protruding bolts in the cabin ceiling. If it all fits properly, ..... Then put some bedding compound under the pads of the bow pulpit and - you'll need a helper for this - carefully place it in position on deck and put a bolt in one of the holes. You need the helper to hold the other side so that it doesn't slide around and leave bedding compound smeared on the deck. Now you put a bolt in a hole on the opposite side and the pulpit is located and can't slide anymore. Once it's located, then insert the bolts in the pad holes, climb inside the boat and with your helper holding a screwdriver in the bolt head on the outside, you can now put the backing plate in place and tighten the nuts. You'll have to tell him / her where you are screwing on the next nut: Outside aft: Inside aft; Forward. It requires a bit of coordination, but by the time you get to the 4th pad, you'll both be experts at it! "Gently" tighten the bolts. You don't want to apply a lot of pressure to them. What you are striving for is a gentle oozing of the bedding compound from under each pad on deck. Then have a beer and wait for a day or two till the bedding compound cures. Now you can re tighten the nuts on the mounting bolts, and you will have a good seal between pulpit pad and deck, and no chance of a leak either. The bedding compound will squeeze out a little more, and than can be trimmed off using any sort of sharp knife. ....and the job is done. ....and you did it. Have fun. Connie

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harbor guides
by Rick Langer 06 May '06

06 May '06

Nice find Tod, thanks. Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 20:34:35 -0400 > From: <htmills(a)bright.net> > Subject: M_Boats: harbor guides > To: "M-list" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <000001c66d80$31104870$899edb42@ACER> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Perhaps this will be of some interest: > > http://www.harborguides.com/index.php > > Tod > M17 #408 > BuscaBrisas (<= whose trailer is sporting new bunk boards now)

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Monty hat orders
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 06 May '06

06 May '06

To everyone that ordered a Monty hat to be customized with you own boat's name on it...hang in there...you haven't been forgetten. The hats are at the embroidery shop and I'm still waiting for the boat names to be completed. Thanks for your patience! Sean

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M15 cap
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 03 May '06

03 May '06

Glad you like Rich! Wear it proudly and have a great sail!

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M15 cap
by Richard Cottrell 03 May '06

03 May '06

Sean: My M15 hat arrived tonight. Just in time for my first trip of the year to Lake Don Pedro tomorrow morning. "Really" like it. Love the color and style. Thanks for all contributions to the Montgomery site. Rich Cottrell

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Fixed the over lap problem "For good"
by Bill Lamica 02 May '06

02 May '06

Hi All, How about a note "off line" from someone who has had wording overlap problems with any of the browsers on the Photo Site. I'm pretty sure I found the problem and corrected it (if there was one). Just a matter of going to the books (again). Please let me know if problems still exist. Bill www.MSOGPhotoSite.com

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RE: M_Boats: Boom Vang
by Hughston, Larry 02 May '06

02 May '06

On the boom vang, post those pics when you find them.....that will make it clear to a lysdexlick like me. ---Larry Hughston -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of Doug Kelch Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:32 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boom Vang Rick, I had taken some pictures of my set up but I can't find them. I used a pad eye through bolted though the sail slot about 2 inchs from the bottom of the mast. The diameter of the pad eye screw holes was large enought that the pad eye did not fit into the track is self. This may prevent your mast from leaning back to the mast carrier while steping your mast so it may not work for you. I already had to make a "launching" mast carrier that was tall enough to get the base of the mast in the mast step and still clear the compass I have mounted on the hatch. I added a small bail on the boom for the other attachment point. Thanks Doug --- Rick Langer <farreach(a)optonline.net> wrote: > Thanks George, > > That aluminum tubing is a good idea. I'll dig > through my junk to see if I > can't come up with something like that. Just > yesterday, I was thinking of > using the barrel of a sail stop (you know, like > Dwyer sells, with the thumb > nut) as a base to mount something to. It's still an > option. > > I also like that vang key assembly idea. I like the > clean look. But how > about the key? On the Dwyer site they state , > "Accepts ball swaged on 1/8" > wire.", but they don't show any balls or keys. Does > the vang key assembly > come with a key? Your suggestion seems to indicate > that it does. I wonder > if the vang key assembly would be a good solution > for the mast end? Again, > it's clean and bridges the sail slot gap nicely. > > Fair Tides, > > Rick > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:54:06 -0700 > > From: George Burmeyer <gburmeyer(a)mac.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boom Vang > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Message-ID: > <92F816C5-57D3-4AF7-AE66-A1F643143CA4(a)mac.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; > delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > Rick, > > > > I have had the same issue. I first tried putting a > SS eyebolt through > > an existing hole near the base of the mast, but > found that the eye > > interfered with getting the pin in the tabernacle. > Then the good > > folks at Svendson's in Alameda fixed me up with a > three or four > > inch length of aluminum tubing that just fit into > the bottom of the > > sailtrack extrusion. You then screw a small eye > strap to the tubing > > through the opening in the extrusion and it jams > in there good and > > tight. Works great and no holes in the mast. > > > > I have found that a Laser vang key assembly will > fit perfectly on the > > M15 boom. Dwyer sells a similar device and you can > see pictures of it > > on their web site, I think. It is a curved > fitting with a key shaped > > opening in the bottom that you rivet or tap and > screw to the boom. > > You shackle the key to the boom end of the vang > and it just slides > > into place. I haven't installed mine yet (have > been using an eye > > strap the PO put on the boom) because I don't know > the optimum angle > > for the vang. I read somewhere that it should be > more than forty- > > five degrees but I don't know how much or if it > matters on a boat > > this size. I haven't been able to find a lot of > info on the subject. > > Anybody know? > > > > > > George Burmeyer > > 1986 M15 #385 "Haiku" > > Santa Rosa, CA > > > > > > On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rick Langer wrote: > > > >> In an attempt to keep up with Doug and Abbey, on > our next cruise, I > >> bought a boom vang. Now the question is "How do > I rig it?". I > >> know bottom of the mast and somewhere out on the > boom (how far?) > >> What is the correct hardware for each end? > Anybody got pictures? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Rick Langer > >> M15 #337 > >> Bluebird > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Boom Vang
by Rick Langer 01 May '06

01 May '06

Thanks George, That aluminum tubing is a good idea. I'll dig through my junk to see if I can't come up with something like that. Just yesterday, I was thinking of using the barrel of a sail stop (you know, like Dwyer sells, with the thumb nut) as a base to mount something to. It's still an option. I also like that vang key assembly idea. I like the clean look. But how about the key? On the Dwyer site they state , "Accepts ball swaged on 1/8" wire.", but they don't show any balls or keys. Does the vang key assembly come with a key? Your suggestion seems to indicate that it does. I wonder if the vang key assembly would be a good solution for the mast end? Again, it's clean and bridges the sail slot gap nicely. Fair Tides, Rick > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:54:06 -0700 > From: George Burmeyer <gburmeyer(a)mac.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boom Vang > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <92F816C5-57D3-4AF7-AE66-A1F643143CA4(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Rick, > > I have had the same issue. I first tried putting a SS eyebolt through > an existing hole near the base of the mast, but found that the eye > interfered with getting the pin in the tabernacle. Then the good > folks at Svendson's in Alameda fixed me up with a three or four > inch length of aluminum tubing that just fit into the bottom of the > sailtrack extrusion. You then screw a small eye strap to the tubing > through the opening in the extrusion and it jams in there good and > tight. Works great and no holes in the mast. > > I have found that a Laser vang key assembly will fit perfectly on the > M15 boom. Dwyer sells a similar device and you can see pictures of it > on their web site, I think. It is a curved fitting with a key shaped > opening in the bottom that you rivet or tap and screw to the boom. > You shackle the key to the boom end of the vang and it just slides > into place. I haven't installed mine yet (have been using an eye > strap the PO put on the boom) because I don't know the optimum angle > for the vang. I read somewhere that it should be more than forty- > five degrees but I don't know how much or if it matters on a boat > this size. I haven't been able to find a lot of info on the subject. > Anybody know? > > > George Burmeyer > 1986 M15 #385 "Haiku" > Santa Rosa, CA > > > On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rick Langer wrote: > >> In an attempt to keep up with Doug and Abbey, on our next cruise, I >> bought a boom vang. Now the question is "How do I rig it?". I >> know bottom of the mast and somewhere out on the boom (how far?) >> What is the correct hardware for each end? Anybody got pictures? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rick Langer >> M15 #337 >> Bluebird

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