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Montgomery 17 rudders
by Tom Smith 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

I figured out a good way to make pics available to you M viewers without choking you with data. When you go to the link below, you'll will see my collection of M17 rudders and a brief description of each. The '75 undershot rudder was just repaired--you can see the light colored mahagony strip that was added because of damage caused by hard grounding. www.openboatt.blogspot.com All rudders are oriented with trailing edge facing right side of photo. Tom Smith Next IT 509-242-0767 ext. 1035

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That one didn't work either... just me ranting
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

I was attempting to make my post easier on the eyes as it is so long. Well, that did not work - Bill

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New Photos Site Post .... Easier to read
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

Hi All, The first post I made announcing the photo site is hard to read as there are no paragraph stops. Hope this post comes out better. This is the same post. If you managed to read the last one. Dont read on: You will recall I promised a new Photo Site by Christmas: Learning how to build a web site from scratch is a lot like learning to sail… All those words and phrases that make little or no sense anywhere else in the world except to those who are in the same boat. Here are the statistics: There are well over 600 photos that I turned into thumbnails that measure 175 X 131 pixels and are created at 75 DPI. Those same photos are in a finished size of 1024 X 768 at 150 DPI ready for you to download and use as you wish. That means there were about 1300 photos to manipulate. These photos are placed in albums on over 100 custom (did not use any templates) designed and created, easy to use web pages. Then there is the Copy (words – text) I redid many of the albums to get rid of the cutesy stuff that could possibly make the MSOG look unprofessional. I spell checked every document and all text to be certain I wasn’t to far off (you may find errors – report them please). The site design with the small thumbnails, same background and header/title on every page and no flash and not too many mouse over moves has made a site that can be viewed with a dial up. As you will recall I couldn’t view some recent stuff and it’s nice to have high speed but, I’m told the households on dialup are better than 60 % of the internet users. I hope the simplicity of the design will help the dial up users. Our site is designed and should look okay and possibly excellent with all of the popular browsers. 90% of computers sold in the US are delivered with Internet Explorer as the primary Browser. Some of the problems are due to HTML Coding which is how a site is designed and is often read differently by various browsers (again if you spot problems – report them please). The other variable is monitor size. I’ve designed the site to show properly at a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 and I’ve optimized it to scroll out and view properly with wide screen monitors all the way out to 1280 X 1024 or larger. If your monitor is adjusted to 800 X 600 so the icons on the front page of your site are larger, the Photo Site will not show maximized on your screen. Our web address is secure and is registered for the next five years. The web space is paid on a yearly basis and it is shall we say - large. We can go up to 11 Gigabytes of storage space (we are less than 400 megabytes right now) and our bandwidth is set at a whopping 400 Gigabytes per month! The MSOG Photo Site shines because many of you care enough to send me some great photos. Without your help it doesn’t exist. We have plenty of room. By my best guess I figure we can get well over 10,000 pictures of good quality on the site. There is still time to ask Mrs. / Mr. Santa for that digital camera you’ve been wanting. There are small changes to be made and I expect to do updates to add material once a month. But, for the most part with exception of a few scattered sentences that don’t make much sense, the site is ready for public viewing. Happy Holidays and here’s your Christmas present (open it right away) I do hope you like it. _www.MSOGPhotoSite.com_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/)

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New Photo Site...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

You will recall I promised a new Photo Site by Christmas: Learning how to build a web site from scratch is a lot like learning to sail… All those words and phrases that make little or no sense anywhere else in the world except to those who are in the same boat. Here are the statistics: There are well over 600 photos that I turned into thumbnails that measure 175 X 131 pixels and are created at 75 DPI. Those same photos are in a finished size of 1024 X 768 at 150 DPI ready for you to download and use as you wish. That means there were about 1300 photos to manipulate. These photos are placed in albums on over 100 custom (did not use any templates) designed and created, easy to use web pages. Then there is the Copy (words – text) I redid many of the albums to get rid of the cutesy stuff that could possibly make the MSOG look unprofessional. I spell checked every document and all text to be certain I was not to far off (you may find errors – report them please). The site design with the small thumbnails, same background and header/title on every page and no flash and not too many mouse over moves has made a site that can be viewed with a dial up. As you will recall I could not view some recent sites. And, it is nice to have high speed but, I am told the households on dialup are better than 60% of the Internet users. I hope the simplicity of the design will help the dial up users. Our site is designed and should look okay and possibly excellent with all of the popular browsers. 90% of computers sold in the US are delivered with Internet Explorer as the primary Browser. Some of the problems are due to HTML Coding which is how a site is designed and is often read differently by various browsers (again if you spot problems – report them please). The other variable is monitor size. I have designed the site to show properly at a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 and I have optimized it to scroll out and view properly with wide screen monitors all the way out to 1280 X 1024 or larger. If your monitor is adjusted to 800 X 600 so the icons on the front page of your site are larger, the Photo Site will not show maximized on your screen. Our web address is secure and is registered for the next five years. The web space is paid on a yearly basis and it is shall we say -- large. We can go up to 11 Gigabytes of storage space (we are less than 400 megabytes right now) and our bandwidth is set at a whopping 400 Gigabytes per month! The MSOG Photo Site shines because many of you care enough to send me some great photos. Without your help it does not exist. We have plenty of room. By my best guess I figure we can get well over 10,000 pictures of good quality on the site. There is still time to ask Mrs. / Mr. Santa for that digital camera you have been wanting. There are small changes to be made and I expect to do updates to add material once a month. But, for the most part with exception of a few scattered sentences that do not make much sense, the site is ready for public viewing. Happy Holidays and here is your Christmas present (Open it right away) I do hope you like it. Bill _www.MSOGPhotoSite.com_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/)

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RE: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 rudders
by Tom Smith 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

I suspect the fasteners are the result of the past damage from grounding as well Bill. Whatever is there is covered by a filler of some kind and faired. If I had to guess, I'd say the leading edge was reattached sometime in the past and that those are lag bolts of some kind. Whatever, the repair has held up. t /)) Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed Good photos of the rudders. The 1975 rudder. What type of fasteners ( 3 0f them) are those on the foot of the rudder. My 1975 rudder is stating to delaminate at the foot and I propose waterproof glue supplemented with long screws or other fasteners. Would appreciate firsthand advice. Bill K Half Monty M-17 (#55) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 rudders
by Woodsybill＠aol.com 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

Good photos of the rudders. The 1975 rudder. What type of fasteners ( 3 0f them) are those on the foot of the rudder. My 1975 rudder is stating to delaminate at the foot and I propose waterproof glue supplemented with long screws or other fasteners. Would appreciate firsthand advice. Bill K Half Monty M-17 (#55)

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RE: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 rudders
by Hughston, Larry 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

Nice page design Tom. ---Larry M-15 #189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of Tom Smith Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:46 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 rudders I figured out a good way to make pics available to you M viewers without choking you with data. When you go to the link below, you'll will see my collection of M17 rudders and a brief description of each. The '75 undershot rudder was just repaired--you can see the light colored mahagony strip that was added because of damage caused by hard grounding. www.openboatt.blogspot.com All rudders are oriented with trailing edge facing right side of photo. Tom Smith Next IT 509-242-0767 ext. 1035 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: sliding outboard motor mount
by DCLewis1＠aol.com 11 Dec '05

11 Dec '05

>From the General Boats summary blurb @ _www.rhodes22.com_ (http://www.rhodes22.com) "Outboard motor brackets are generally ugly, awkward, ill tempered. The Rhodes Motor Lift is good looking (for a bracket), slides up and down with a mere pull of a cockpit pendant, setting depth to match your shoal; all with no macho strong-back acrobatics required." You can get the mechanical pendant arrangement, but their newer system is electrical, just hit a switch and it deploys. I believe older Rhodes have a more conventional system. For an image of the outboard motor mount see _http://www.rhodes22.org/pics/DOCK2.jpg_ (http://www.rhodes22.org/pics/DOCK2.jpg) Dave

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re: sliding outboard motor mount
by Steve R. 11 Dec '05

11 Dec '05

Mike, I think Garhauer Marine made a mount like that, but I do not see it on the web site now. www.garhauermarine.com I understand that the Rhodes 22 has a sliding mount, although it may be a little bigger than what you want. www.rhodes22.com or www.rhodes22.org for the owner’s site. I have a Garelick aluminum mount. I choose the one with the max adjustment range. As the mounting pad was too thick for my 2hp Honda, I used a 2x8. My pad is a little taller than the factory mount, in case I needed to trim it down a bit. When I have the mount in the top position, the mounting pad is just an inch or two aft of the transom. The swing arms are almost vertical. If I tilt the Honda up, the top end of the motor is inside the cockpit. It hangs several inches over the transom,. It is very easy to access if I had to work on it. (Never have.) I normally sail with it a notch or two down, so as to prevent interference with the traveler bridal. It is not far from the transom. I really like the adjustable range of the mount, and can drop it to the lowest position if I need to go to the bow and keep the prop in the water. However I think Jerry had the best idea. Just use the old fixed mount and a piece of wood as a spacer to move the OB back a little. I wish he had posted it before I installed the adjustable mount. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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sliding outboard motor mount
by Mike 11 Dec '05

11 Dec '05

I can only find one type of outboard motor mount that slides up and down instead of the older style of hinged back and then down. These older style puts the motor even further away where as the sliding type keeps the weight close to stern. does anyone know where any of these motor mounts can be seen on the web, I can not find any place. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

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