December 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: New Photo Site
by JRo6238104＠aol.com 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

You will recall I promised a new Photo Site by Christmas:... Bill, stumbled onto the new Photo site while browsing the MSOG. In a word WOW!! It all works and I love the way you've organized it. I can actiually find things and view them in full resolution! A great Christmas present. Thanks John Roland M-15/194 WOKINI

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re: Interested in buying a new M-15
by Steve R. 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi Sands, Welcome to the group. You will enjoy your new Montgomery. I vaguely recall "The Marshes of Glynn" from high school lit. Do you normally sail an inland lake or the Georgia coast? I think the opening ports would be a big help. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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M-15 Depth Sounder Install
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi All, In case you had not noticed. I have Norm Bundek's M-15 Depth Sounder installation on site - good description and pictures at: _http://www.msogphotosite.com/M15Sndr.html_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/M15Sndr.html) Also if you've not seen M-23 Dhana we have two pages of great photos supplied by "Bones": _http://www.msogphotosite.com/M23Dha1.html_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/M23Dha1.html) And if you missed the Turtled P-15. Great story and photos of a good ending: _http://www.msogphotosite.com/P15Turtle.html_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/P15Turtle.html) And as you may guess I'm all done with the changes and the server (great company) has already made all of the changes on site. Let me know if anything is screwed up. It all works for me. Bill "Gatekeeper" _www.MSOGPhotoSite.com_ (http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com)

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Re: M_Boats: Interested in buying a new M-15, what additions
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

In a message dated 12/16/2005 9:57:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, sandsh(a)glynn.k12.ga.us writes: I'm am selling my Catalina 22 and planning on buying a new M-15. I have loved my C-22, but I want to be able to trailer easier and have the seaworthiness of the M-15. Hi Sands, Nice Boat the Catalina 22, I learned to sail on one. You'll miss the room you've enjoyed in the past - However, you wont miss the hummmmm if it's a swing keel and if it's a fin keel, you wont miss the slings or the 20 foot tongue extension, nor will you miss stepping the mast, or the 30 pound boom, or the spray in rough waters, etc... I too will have a new M-15 in the Spring. I started out with visions of grandeur with what I wanted and I've toned it down substantially. It is bad enough trying to get a stock Montgomery in the water without being to rude to the folks who want to ask questions at the ramp. Imagine what it must be like for those who have all the custom bronze touches. Not that the attention is a bad thing... I found the best way was to create a "boat card" with hull number, my name (no phone number) and the MSOG Photo Site web address on it and give it to folks to have them check out everything online. Other stuff - electrical system. Maybe, but not for me. I considered the maintenance, upkeep and cost and found I could live with a few AAA batteries for anything I wanted to light up and keep the rest of the money in the pocket. Or even a portable and lightweight Snowmobile battery if I was to have Nav lights. Or maybe one of those batteries sold as a back-up to jump start, that have a 110v recharger plug in - built in. For me, I want to keep the M-15 simple and be able to do a few hour afternoon sail without to much effort. The Stainless Steel mast crutch for the stern is an excellent choice (may be standard equipment - ask Bob at M Boats) and I like the stern rail, but I doubt that I order one. If you are to overnight or use the cabin to get out of the weather the opening ports are useful. At least a Mushroom vent to get the moisture out. I think the roller furler CDI with a Genoa may be a great addition after you buy her to keep you balanced should the wind really kick up. I think Bob will be able to get you a great price on a new CDI furler, but expect to put it on yourself - that's not really a Boat Shop job (ask Bob at M-Boats to be sure). I'll also ask for a second reef point in the main sail as I will sail in San Francisco Bay. Most of the really big boats have three. It gets really windy here. Colored hulls very pretty. Bronze very, very nice. colored sails nice also. It's all a matter of choice. It's fun to ponder the possibilities. If you have not yet visited the Photo Site, please do and you'll get an idea of how a couple of new ones look - - "Bella" is very custom and very pretty. "Sirius" is just plain stock and is nice also. You'll also see a few others that still look great a bunch of years after they were made. Have fun, you are choosing wisely with an M-15. One of only a few Mini-Cruisers that retain value very well and sail as a real sailboat should. Bill _www.MSOGPhotoSite.com_ (http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com) P.s. Get the pretty one with all the trimmings. Why not?

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Re: New P15 additions
by Brian Gilbert 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Man, if I were getting a factory M15, I'd DEFINATELY want those opening ports! It's really hard to retrofit those... I've thought about it for my M17, and it's been done after-the factory on at least one M17 that I know of. The opening ports would add quite a bit of ventilation, though you'd want bug screens, and that'd cut down on the breeze a bit. And they sure are purty. Pulpit/lifelines COULD be done later, but it'd be WAY easier to have it done now. I have heard of one M15 owner removing the lifelines, though. I'm assuming they got in the way. (if anybody has a set that they've removed and would like to sell, give me a note!) Be sure to take good care of that nice, new trailer. Wash it down after each launch, and spray it with silicone to keep the corrosion way. Wire dryer works good and doesn't leave it slippery, though I'm not sure how long it'll last. I don't know about the roller furler, but you might want to get at least a genoa to go with the working jib. The factory electrical system/nav lights would save you a bunch of work, though you might be able to do a better job yourself. The Blue Sea panels are really nice (though very pricey) Congrats on your new boat!!! Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media Author, Fix It and Sail (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 12/16/05 12:56 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Hello everybody, > I'm am selling my Catalina 22 and planning on buying a new M-15. I > have loved my C-22, but I want to be able to trailer easier and have the > seaworthiness of the M-15. > My question to all you M-owners is what kind of factory additions > would you recogmend getting? I like the idea of being able to customize > my M-15 just the way I like. I just wonder what others have determined > are nice additions. What about the bronze, opening ports? What about > the stern pulpit? What about a roller furler jib, anybody using one? > > Thanks for any advise you guys have, > Sands

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Interested in buying a new M-15, what additions
by Sands Herrin 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hello everybody, I'm am selling my Catalina 22 and planning on buying a new M-15. I have loved my C-22, but I want to be able to trailer easier and have the seaworthiness of the M-15. My question to all you M-owners is what kind of factory additions would you recogmend getting? I like the idea of being able to customize my M-15 just the way I like. I just wonder what others have determined are nice additions. What about the bronze, opening ports? What about the stern pulpit? What about a roller furler jib, anybody using one? Thanks for any advise you guys have, Sands

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Photo Site Closed
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi All, I made an error when I published the MSOG Photo Site. Probably my fault and if there are any Webmasters out there - I ended up with duplicate "/public_.html files" and that's not good. Well, it's not all that bad, but change it now and it wont be a problem in the future. So, there is a chance you may be able to use the site from the servers archives, but it may not work or be proper. Thanks for the patience and understanding - I'll have it repaired by tomorrow Bill www.MSOGPhotoSite.com

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Re: M_Boats: mods for m 17
by Grove777＠aol.com 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

thanks for the input yes the tabernacle will go thru the cabin top and be mounted on the base of the cabin floor fiberglassed in place appreciate the tip on using a high torque drill met some one doing the same thing to start their outboard i plan to modify my outboard so that i can use a drill to start it i failed to say that i want to do a travel as much as possible the next 3-5 years i have an older dodge diesal[cummins]truck w/ a popup camper mounted in the bed of the truck and will be towing the m17...i just prefer the balaced lug, free standing mast in a tabernacle for simplicity and ease of utilizing same thanks for the comments hope for more g

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re: mods for m 17
by Steve R. 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

The Potter people on the Trailer Sailor site who have converted to Lateen sails include: Harry Gordon - "Manatee" John Madill - "Mackinac Dreamer" Bill Nolen, former owner of "Piglet" The new owner of "Piglet" is Jim McWilliams in Castell, Texas. I have communicated with the first three and they are all nice people. Bill has a Yahoo group with some lateen information. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WWPotter_Owners/ I think you can automatically join it. Go to "Files" then select folder "D: Potter Articles - Technical" There are three files in the folder of interest. * Harry Gordon's New Lateen Sail * P-15 Conversion to Lateen Rig * Piglet's Lateen Rig Conversion The last file does not have a ".html" extension on it. You will need to save it on your hard disk and type in the ".html" extension. Then click on the saved file and it should open in your browser and load the pictures. The e-mail addresses are in the files but if you do not spot them shot me an e-mail back. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: mods for m 17
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

In a message dated 12/15/2005 5:23:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, htmills(a)bright.net writes: Harry Gordon, perhaps? Yep... I believe you are right. I looked for past Potter posts by Harry and there are some. However, there is no Email link after his name.

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