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Re: montgomery_boats digest, Vol 1 #299 - 15 msgs
by JERRYGMAY＠aol.com 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

I talked to CDI in Ma. they sent me to Cameron Sale maker in Seabrook, they said the FF 1 would be the unit to install but the man at CDI said I might install the FF-2 because of the off shore capabilities of our little boats might be considered. Thanks for all of your help, Jerry and Sue May M-17 #231

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Short shaft vs. Long shaft for M15?
by Stan Froseth 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

At the risk of duplicating old discussion--does anyone have experience/opinion on long-vs-short shaft outboard motor for the M15? I'm in process of buying a new M15 (!) and am thinking about getting a honda 2 HP 4-stroke. Thanks for any comments. Stan Froseth Duluth, MN _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
by BobandJudy＠attbi.com 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

Don, I have had problems with my M15 centerboard sticking too. If I do not fully retract the cb when recovery, the trailer rollers push the board up and it jams stuck with the knot on the pendant. On the next launch, the cb will not drop and I either have to dive under and pull it out, or take it home and jack the boat up a couple of inches until it drops. The best solution is to have the cb fully up and secured when loading the boat onto the trailer. I do not have any holes like you describes so it would be interesting to see them on the MSOG site. Bob Becker M15 #208 > Recently there were several postings about m-17 centerboards getting > stuck and how to free them up. > > Has anyone had similar problems with their M-15? > > My M-15 has a 5/16" hole drilled through the bridge plate (?) and the > wood piece on the bottom of the boat. The holes are about 1" aft of the > pennant. When the cb occasionally sticks in the up position, I shove a > 1/4" rod down through the holes until it hits the cb, then give it a > little push and the CB has always dropped. > > I saw two other M-15s last weekend and neither had the same set up, so > now I'm curious if a previous owner set it up or if it is standard on > most boats. If this set up isn't normal and anyone is interested, > I'll take a picture and send it to Doug to post on the ever great and > always improving MSOG site. > Don Haas M-15 248 > Dream Catcher > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Short shaft vs. Long shaft for M15?
by Morris, Giles 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

>long-vs-short shaft outboard motor for the M15 No experience in long vs standard, but a datapoint: I've used three ss motors on my M-15 (old Johnson 4HP, Honda 5HP and Honda 2HP). They all pop the exhaust out of the water when I go forward, but otherwise work just fine. The Honda 2HP has an air-cooled engine -- only the exhaust is water cooled, so this lifting from the water isn't a problem. A standard shaft is better if you plan on ever using it as a dinghy motor (the other use for my Honda 2HP). Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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Re: M_Boats: Racing
by Saltm17＠aol.com 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Tod, That's another area where I could use some "expert" advice. I keep the rig tensioned so that when hard on the wind the leward shrouds are lose but not floppy. I set that tension after looking up the mast while sailing hard. I'm not sure if it is precisely where it should be, but I wanted it so it held the mast in column without too much pressure on the deck and compression post. It's a guess, but it seems to be working. John Miss T M17 # 372

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Racing
by Saltm17＠aol.com 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Jerry, I've been racing my M17 for a few years and have finally got it going the way it should, or least close to it, and now I'm passing boats that I know aren't as fast. I have a PHRF of 295 on the M17, but I am begining to suspect that that is too much. I've seen some nunbers passed around on the site from time to time, but there still is some uncertainty about what is the correct number. It seems that after building and racing the boats you would know what is an accurate (or appropriate) rating for the boat. I am frustrated that my trip around the USA with my M17 has come to a halt. I was particularly looking forward to that race in Monterey, with the hope that I could get some tips from you on fine tuning the rig. The leg is healing up steadily but slowly, and now the plan is to do the trip next year. I am writing some articles for the Small Craft Advisor about the trip, and then I plan to write a book about it. I hope you will be at the 2003 race! Thanks for any help you can give, John Edwards M17 # 372 Miss T

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Re: M_Boats: Racing
by Saltm17＠aol.com 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Tod, I sure didn't see it that way, you had Busca going very well indeed. I'm not certain the rake in Miss T's mast is where it should be, (that's one reason I really wanted to talk with Jerry in Monterey) but once it was increased, it made a significant difference in speed, especially to windward. I keep it that way just about all the time, although I ease the backstays a lot when going down wind which is one reason you need an adjustable backstay to get the boat going well both upwind and downwind. John Miss T M17 # 372

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M17 PHRF?
by ron and cathryn goodspeed 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

good morning, cat and i are thinking of entering "hula pie" in next sundays local race at scotts flat lake here in the sierra foothills. the boats are handicapped using the PHRF ratings. does anyone know the rating for a 1974 M17 with standard main and working jib? we don't really expect to be in the hunt but thought it would be fun to participate since we will be out there anyway. how about some of you other norcal folks show up...we'll sail as the Montgomery Team! if bob and jerry would showup they would put a scare into those capri 22's! thanks, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025

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WTB M15 in Upper Midwest
by Stan Froseth 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Hi, I am looking to buy a Montgomery 15, preferably in Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin or UP Michigan--i.e. within a day or so drive of Duluth, MN. I currently sail a 14 foot dinghy in Duluth Harbor, and other spots on Lake Superior when docile. Thanks for any leads you might supply. Stan Froseth stanfroseth(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: M_Boats: rudder
by dik lang 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Thank you! I'll try the extra ummph tomorrow, along with a few other new boat chores. >From: "htmills(a)bright.net" <htmills(a)bright.net> >Reply-To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: ">Mboats<" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: rudder >Date: (No, or invalid, date.) > >Hi, Dik > >On BuscaBrisas, there are three gudgeons on the transom and three >gudgeons on the rudder with a single pin(tle) running through them >all. The lower end of the pintle has a slight turn-down to a smaller >diameter to match a smaller diameter hole on the bottom transom >gudgeon. Then there is a small hole for a retaining pin/ring. The >three rudder gudgeons are all on top of the transom gudgeons >and the rudder can slide up the pintle until the lower and middle >rudder gudgeons strike the middle and upper transom gudgeons. >There is a line that runs from the transom gunwale down through >a hole in the rudder and then back up to a cleat on the transom. > >If there is some misalignment, then the rudder takes some "umph" >to slide. > >Misalignment is sometimes a result of running aground hard. The >pintle can get a minute bend in it and/or the lower transom gudgeon >can deform some too. On my boat, the bolts holding the lower >transom gudgeon in place are actually bent a little bit. A prior owner >had run full tilt (5 kts) into a submerged tree that was hanging out from >under a log boom and since I've owned the boat I've had a couple >of lesser groundings. In the near future I'm going to be replacing both >the bolts and the transom gudgeon. BuscaBrisas has a wet locker and >I'll probably cut out the bottom of the locker to gain access to the bolts >and then glass it shut again. > >Hope this helps, > >Tod Mills >M17 #408 >"BuscaBrisas" > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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