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Technopop Site
by Electram 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

Hello to all, Technopop site has news in tickets, posters and Musical Scores. Be our guest and visit it. Regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil

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(HD)CD vs vinyl
by richard.marston＠eurosport.com 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

I prefer vinyl -- because the covers are better at 7 and 12 inch size than reduced to 120 mm square and trapped inside a jewel case. The only creatively packaged Kraftwerk CD (i.e. which uses the format in an interesting way unique to the format) has been the German issue of EXPO2000, with the kinetik graphic effect. And sound? Well that depends as much on your hifi as what's been coded or pressed on the relevant disk, IMO. -------------------------------------------------------- You too can have your own email address from Eurosport. http://www.eurosport.com

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Komputer.Am i guilty?,sorry but i like Looking down on London. :P
by Jose 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

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rE:[Kraftwerk] various replies to various guys ... ;-)
by John Shilcock 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

OJ did say: >>well ... wasn't ( such kind of ) "irony" originally invented by monty python from the u. k. a long time ago !? *hehehe* ;-))) i may be wrong then , but ... *XLG* ;-))) I really do not know what you mean OJ??? *most curious... as I do a silly walk down the street with a dead parrot under my arm singing "I'm a lumber jack".... before being trod on by a giant foot* *he he* Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Picture
by John Shilcock 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

I have just "stumbled" across this *he he* http://www.vc-net.ne.jp/~kerorin/powerpuff/pic/kraftwerk.GIF Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Re: ( OT ) Re: what's "better" ??? can u define it ???
by Oh Jay 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

From: Soleil Lapierre <lapierrs(a)cuug.ab.ca> > Never mind. My memory is pretty hazy on that, and I may have made a > mistake. I remember you getting into a flame war with someone else on the > list a few months back, and talking about "plain facts" that were neither > plain nor facts. well ... i've tried to explained it as good as i could back then , why it were ( & still are !!! ) "plain facts" for me !!! anyway ... my personal experience has proven me right & i can ONLY rely on what i've personally experienced in the end !!! > So say all fanatics. :) fyi : without the smiley behind it , i would have taken it as another personal insult , but now ... i jus' see it as a snide remark , which doesn't make it any better then !!! :-/ > not just those who qualify as dedicated stereo equipment connoisseurs. fyi : i'm NOT one of those "dedicated stereo equipment connoisseurs" , as i use very average equipment @ home , so u're WRONG_AGAIN with one of your assumptions , mr. lapierre !!! :-/ > I also now think it's wrong to speak of one system being "better" unless > you're prepared to break out measuring equipment to scientifically compare > the two. Until that happens, you can only speak of one being better for a > particular person, ie vinyl is better for you and CD is better for me. WOW_!!! >:-O it really seems as if u've indeed learned somethin' from this debate ... finally !!! *BWG* ;-))) > You haven't demonstrated that it can. At this point you're only asserting. well ... as u live in canada & i live in germany , i could ONLY "demonstrate" it to u , if we would actually met in real life , which isn't very likely ... @ least not in the nearer future , as i suppose !? ;-) > Haha! I am the man-machine, of course. :) hm ... i was indeed thinkin' to make "the turner test" with u , to actually find out , if u're not jus' a computer program that wants to fool us all in the end !!! *LOL* ;-))) > And before you say that I also made personal attacks for saying things > like vinylists are living in a dream world: Yes, those were bad things to > say and I admit I went a bit overboard. They weren't exactly personal > attacks (at least not like yours) because they were directed at a group; > it then fell to sensitive members of that group (like yourself apparently) > to take it personally. it's even much more of "a bad thing" to say , when u DELIBERATELY_INSULT a whole group of people ( "vinylists" etc. ) , which is only A_MEAN_GENERALIZATION_!!! *sigh* :-o yes , i admit that i sometimes personally attack certain individuals , if i think that they are WRONG , like i did in your case ... but it's certainly not as bad as DELIBERATELY_INSULTIN' a whole group of people with such plain & indeed very mean & totally unjustified generalizations , like u did !!! *grumble* :-/ btw : this can very easily end in fascistic / rassist or similar ruthless remarks , as u would criticise a whole group of people then , of whom u only know a very few ... if @ all !!! *grim* :-/ so the next time u like to criticise "vinylists" in the way that u did this time , u should be aware of THE_PLAIN_FACT that i WON'T let u nor anybody else escape unpunished for utterin' such A_MEAN_GENERALIZATION here , mr. lapierre ( or whoever ) !!! *pretty_stern_look* > The same applies to you. You've done nothing to prove you're right either. > In the light of experience provided by others in this thread, it seems > that it may actually be impossible for either of us to prove ourselves > right. nope , but it doesn't seem to be possible in the "virtual" world a.k.a. the i-net , to prove it right ... ONLY with more or less plausible arguments , BUT in the real world , if we could actually put some equipment to the test ... right in front of the interested listeners , like u & me !!! *utmost_convinced_look* i suppose by now that this would be THE_ONLY_WAY to prove it ... finally !!! :-o > I have learned much from what they said, and admitted so. that's indeed really good to know , because otherwise this whole matter wasn't worth all the hassle , which would've been a real shame in the end !!! *phew* :-o > What's your first language, out of curiosity? well ... i really thought that u would know this already , mr. lapierre !? *somehow_puzzled_look* anyway ... what do u think does the .de endin' in my e-mail addy stands for , eh ??? *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx again , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - july 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show & playlist archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco for more info , send your request(s) to : oh_jay(a)kraftwerk.nu ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: Komputer
by Sergi G. Reniu 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

> > My beef with Komputer was that they had ripped off Kraftwerk > > and apparently denied any influence, thus commiting plagiarism > > - the bad kind of ripoff. > >well ... as komputer are from england ( or @ least from the u. k. ;-) , >they >have a certain kind of humor that some people jus' don't seem to understand >... >& that's also the main reason , why their comments about kw were totally >misinterpreted ... first by the journalist , who's interviewed them & later >by >the folx , who read his article !!! :-o Mmmmm... Komputer denying KW influence? Well its so obvious that they owe all they are to KW, but they say just the opposite thing... it must be something called er...I dont remember now...when literally something means exactly the opposite as it REALLY means...ooooh! Its called irony! But I dont think using irony has nothin to do with being from UK... See ya! _________________________________________________________________ Charle con sus amigos online usando MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: Komputer
by Oh Jay 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

From: Soleil Lapierre <lapierrs(a)cuug.ab.ca> > My beef with Komputer was that they had ripped off Kraftwerk > and apparently denied any influence, thus commiting plagiarism > - the bad kind of ripoff. well ... as komputer are from england ( or @ least from the u. k. ;-) , they have a certain kind of humor that some people jus' don't seem to understand ... & that's also the main reason , why their comments about kw were totally misinterpreted ... first by the journalist , who's interviewed them & later by the folx , who read his article !!! :-o anyway ... yes , komputer once were known as fortran 5 , but i liked that project more than i like komputer , albeit they've made a more or less decent album !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) jvr network program - july 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show & playlist archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco for more info , send your request(s) to : oh_jay(a)kraftwerk.nu ;-) *~\^/~*

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KW concert warm up music.
by Enrique Correa 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Ever wondered if you were picked to be a warm up DJ for a Kraftwerk concert? (Yes, daydreaming again...) My blend would probably include several tunes from the following artists: Autechre, Aphex Twin, Higher Intelligence Agency, William Orbit, Boards of Canada, Monolake and Anthony Rother among many many many others. I'd leave Elektric Music, Komputer and Yamo out for obvious reasons... don't want to piss Ralf and Florian off :-) Anyone knows if R&F actually bring their own DJ / warm up tape, or the venue provides them with one? E

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Komputer
by Oystein Moe 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

Can you verify that the members of Komputer were previously known as Fortran 5? This is another rumor I've heard. I highly enjoyed Fortran 5's album "Blues". >From what I heard, it's one guy from Fortran and one from I Start COunting? Inerestingly, especially regarding their Kraftwerk influence, they kind of knocked my feet away from underneath me during that interview, as they DENIED having been in other groups of interest before... ...so maybe they have said something about not being inf'ed by Kwk after all, and hoped the claim was so preposterous we'd know they were joking? It could be, I haven't seen this interview either, but for any band playing synths it would be either stupid or witty denying a Kraftwerk influence. Period. And now, even though it's late, I'm going to play Singapore rather loud and dance in my special Andy McCluskey'esque fashion. It's raining outside. Goodnight my brethren, Oystein _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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