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Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
by Pat Slade 03 May '02

03 May '02

Thanks for the clarification from some members re Wolfie's email address, told ya I was a newbie! ;-) pat >Well, though I don't approve of posting private e-mail to the list without >consent, that e-mail address has been mentioned here before -- back before >Dirk was even on the list. It was also posted on amazon.com for a while, by >Wolfgang himself! So it's not exactly top-secret... > > >A "Flur" (without umlaut) is a "meadow". > > > >Hilarious note: a "Flurhueter" is a "forester", not Mr. Huetter who > >takes care of Mr. Fluer. Unless in a Dominas sense, maybe. > >Perhaps I "take care of" the Flur, eh? > >-Eric Gartner > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Back to the plot.....
by John Shilcock 03 May '02

03 May '02

Hello all... isn't it such a lovely day... well it is here in old London Town as I look out of the window and gaze upon the Post Office Tower (or what ever it's called now) Any way.... I've not long uploaded a Japanese version of Showroom Dummies to my site for those who are interested in these things.. it's at http://www.keepwerking.co.uk/acoustic.php <now where's that bottle of larger......* Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
by Rob Evans 03 May '02

03 May '02

Oh Jay wrote: >anyway ... i simply CAN'T stand people like dirki or eduardo or their ilk >on the >same list as me & therefore one of us MUST_GO I think at first, Dirk was a very good source of information, and I think he still is. He is not the only person who has disagreements with other people. I think the whole thing is being a little bit over-dramatised and Dirk is merely expressing an opinion on Wolfgang, and now we get this dubious e-mail from Wolfgang, I am unsure if it is light-hearted or not, and I am also unsure if it is actually from Wolfgang himself. This e-mail medium is very confusing at times and as a result is a source of great entertainment. Think of Eduardo as a very annoying part of your life, like when you are watching a good film on TV and then we have a commercial break. I agree that he should sod off though. He never talks about Kraftwerk. Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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RE: e-mail adresses
by main event 03 May '02

03 May '02

Hi everyone, I have had Wolfgang Flur's e-mail address for a while now.. well Its in my head, and not written down on a piece of paper!! I have and will never send him an e-mail as I respect his privacy as A PERSON AND A MUSICIAN!!!! All im interested in is the great music that Kraftwerk have shared with us all in the past and in the future!! I have some news for several people on the list.. Ralf and Florian go to the toilet for a shit!!!!!!! ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source ' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent http://www.maineventmusik.co.uk http://www.stationmp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
by Pat Slade 03 May '02

03 May '02

Hey Dirk and all, Thank you for pointing me to a few more sites, Dirk. I trust you understood why I was a little concerned, not just for Wolfgang's privacy, but for everyone's privacy. And call me naive, but I still think it might be nice on this list if there was a moderator setting a tone here. One thing I've noticed with emails from people, even in personal emails from very close friends, is it is sometimes hard to tell if someone is joking or not, just by the reading of an email. There was alot of discussion here (and in the past I think) about taking issue with people's posts, replying to the list or privately when one had an issue with a post)...it all seems rather complicated for some reason. And I'm not sure why. Like I said previously, I'm new to this list, and new to Kraftwerk :-) Just my two cents. Thanks again for the links, I shall check them out! pat > > >Dear Pat, > >I wrote: at 02.05.02, 15:41 > > >______________________________ > >Dear Kraftwerk-list, > >in my posting some weeks ago I wrote about a photo an a gay-magazine in >germany and about Wolfgangs part as a drummer with Kraftwerk (as far as I >know from Ralf Huetter, Florian Schneider and Conny Plank). >... also about MY philosophy, what's it all about to be "mentally part of >someting". Childish? > >Some days ago I received this email signed by "Wolfgang Flür", but I dont't >know if this is the really one or someone else. > >______________________________ > >I still don't think that it was Wolfgang Flür himself who wrote this >(silly?) email, but it must be someone who as access to this list. Perhaps >Klaus Zaepke can verifiy if it was the Really_Wolfgang. >I don't believe that the Really_Wolfgang sees any problems if this - used - >email-adress was published here. >As far as I know him he is a very open minded person who offers direct >contact to all his fans, see his website www.yama.org: >kontakt und anregung: fluer(a)yamo.org >This is the right email-adress of Wolfgang! > >Best regrads > >Dirki > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
by Enrique Correa 03 May '02

03 May '02

I wrote: > Please let freedom flow at ease in here oh jay answered: > oh yeah ... "the freedom of LIBEL_&_DEFAMATION" !!! *grim* :-/ > i'm really sorry mate , but if u indeed support that kind of "freedom" > here [...] I support freedom period and saying what you think and believe in, is a big part of it. Wolfgang and Dirk have their own believes and they are entitled to express them freely, as long as they don't step into forbidden territory, everything should be OK. I know there's a fine line between what should be allowed or not, and since we are all mature people here, the right to decide what's legitimate to say or not should be left at the speakers will, agree? I feel extremely lucky to be in a position where I can read Wolfgang's and Dirk's believes. I might agree with them or not, but hey that's not the point here. The point is letting people express themselves, whether they are right or not, in fact Dirk even said here: "I got this from Ralf & Florian AND Conny Plank, perhaps these persons don't tell the truth. Sorry, if I was wrong ..." so you see, even he can admit the possibility of making a mistake. I know Dirk and Wolfgang are both thankful at having a chance to express themselves here. oh jay, please don't try to take away the very thing that makes a discussion list like this one a valuable one. > u better go & see a shrink ASAP & take your medication RIGHT_NOW_!!! [...] Boy, you sure know how to stir up people's nerves. If I keep reading your hostile posts, I might end up taking some sort of medication after all. Just kidding (...felt like I had to point that out :-) Enrique

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Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] A message from Wolfgang Fluer
by Dirk Matten 03 May '02

03 May '02

kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com schrieb am 03.05.02: > Hey fellow Kraftwerk fans, > > Yesterday was some sorta rollercoaster ride on this here list, oh my! > > Many issues came up that I, as a moderator on two other music groups, have > never had to face, thank god! :-) > > What has made me a little nervous is the fact that although it seems that > this list is a private entity and that it takes place in emails or a digest > format, it is in fact, very public. Anyone can go to the xmission website > and read the digests. I'm dismayed that Wolfgang's email address was shared > with basically the world, and I'm thinking without his knowledge or consent. Dear Pat, I wrote: at 02.05.02, 15:41 ______________________________ Dear Kraftwerk-list, in my posting some weeks ago I wrote about a photo an a gay-magazine in germany and about Wolfgangs part as a drummer with Kraftwerk (as far as I know from Ralf Huetter, Florian Schneider and Conny Plank). ... also about MY philosophy, what's it all about to be "mentally part of someting". Childish? Some days ago I received this email signed by "Wolfgang Flür", but I dont't know if this is the really one or someone else. ______________________________ I still don't think that it was Wolfgang Flür himself who wrote this (silly?) email, but it must be someone who as access to this list. Perhaps Klaus Zaepke can verifiy if it was the Really_Wolfgang. I don't believe that the Really_Wolfgang sees any problems if this - used - email-adress was published here. As far as I know him he is a very open minded person who offers direct contact to all his fans, see his website www.yama.org: kontakt und anregung: fluer(a)yamo.org This is the right email-adress of Wolfgang! Best regrads Dirki > > I want to learn all about Kraftwerk and to celebrate their music with other > fans, but in my opinion, this list desperately needs the moderator to > protect the interests of the group, and the privacy of its members, or at > the very least, those people whose email addresses are displayed without > their knowledge or consent. > > Just my two cents, that's all. > > pat > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk ______________________________________________________________________________ Sie wollen mehr? Mehr Speicher, mehr Mail, mehr Erlebnis, mehr Leistung, mehr Prämie unter http://club.web.de/?mc=021102

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Re: [Kraftwerk] The last one for today
by omegaChance 03 May '02

03 May '02

Try a group like alt.music.kraftwerk, and Yahoo! groups Its More Fun To Compute and Kraftwerk Fans ...other than that I havent found much. omegaChance _____________________________________ MAIL: Omega(a)herzeleid.net AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 MSN: IAMomegaChance(a)hotmail.com Y!M: IAMomegaChance(a)yahoo.com WEB: http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance --- "Nicolau Centola" <ncentola(a)terra.com.br> wrote: >Just a final question: > >I know there are several KW lists on the Web. Could anyone post the >addresses/e-mails of them? >It would be easy to try to find new kraftworlds... > > >peace > > >Nicolau >www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email(a)yourgroup.org by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag

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The last one for today
by Nicolau Centola 03 May '02

03 May '02

Just a final question: I know there are several KW lists on the Web. Could anyone post the addresses/e-mails of them? It would be easy to try to find new kraftworlds... peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br

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List statement
by Nicolau Centola 03 May '02

03 May '02

Hi fellows considering we will NEVER have a real moderator or a list owner, the only thing I would like to say to ALL the list is: if you are not happy here, please be quiet and just read the messages or leave the list! Simply like that. This would prevent all the other KW fans that are not interested in stressed messages with personal attacks. If you would like to fight with another list member, do it privately, please. Everyone has the right to have your own point of view. You can argue with a different opinion, but no one has the right to make personal attacks just because the other one have a different opinion. Or anyone don't believe in this statement? peace for all Nicolau "For my friends, I make my best. My enemies I just ignore" PS - if you would like to discuss this specific topic with me, please, private mail. No one has to hear about it again and again. Sorry guys for any answer to the list.

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