March 2003 - KLF - mailman.xmission.com

RE: [KLF] Mancentral Demise
by Don Gagen 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

Was this your site? "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: Rockman Mike [mailto:trancentral_uk@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:26 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Mancentral Demise Hi Everyone I'm sad to see that the Mancentral KLF site is closing down around 7 March. This was the first KLF site I came across some years ago and was how I was introduced to the list. I remember being in KLF heaven when I found it,images, mp3s,message board etc, now it seems it is disappearing for ever due to committments ie getting married and having a baby. So if anyone wants to visit it before it goes and download and share KLF files here is web site klf.life.eu.org without the www for those who haven't visited it before. The klf.de site is doing a great job and I hope it carries on flying the KLF flag long after Mancentral ends. A Tearful Mike __________________________________________________ Do

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Re: Video: TIWTKLF Are About
by Christopher Gegax 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

I bought the "This is what Klf are about" PAL format video off eBay a couple months back for a pile of money. Finally got around to renting an International VCR recently and transferred the whole thing to NTSC format DVC. Now that I've transferred the tape to NTSC format I'll probably put the PAL version of "This is what Klf are about" back up for sale on eBay to recoup. Even with fair to middling quality, "This is what Klf are about" makes for delightful viewing. As an American fan, my only opportunities to watch Klf have been in an Ireland hotel room back in 1992 (a brief glimpse on Mtv Europe of WTIL played over a long shot of Ford Timelord driving down a lonely stretch of highway) and the mediocre Stadium House Trilogy. My two favorite videos included on the tape are "Doctorin' the Tardis" and "It's Grim Up North." "Doctorin' the Tardis" is a fitting tribute to Dr. Who. I had a good laugh seeing a puppeteers feet scooting the faux Dalek across the pavement as Ford Timelord bears down in the distance. Looking at all the videos, I believe "It's Grim Up North" best renders the mysterious, bold and gritty nature of the Jamm's, et al. The rest of the videos mostly are ridiculous, dated affairs. Most interesting are a number of clips nicked from television, including interviews with Bill and Jim. It was funny to see a clip of them constructing Sample City for the Stadium House Trilogy videos, from Rapido maybe. The Omnibus program at the end of the tape is probably the most fascinating glimpse into what motivates Bill and Jim, but it cuts off about 3/4 through the program. --Chris On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 09:56:57 +0000, bouwes(a)hotmail.com writes: The KLF: This Is What The KLF Are About [1992] bootleg video compilation What's the overall quality of this video? And can I get a copy from some one (except from our beloved friend Mike Dutton) Is there a possibility to copy it onto DVD? Maarten

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KLF Kovers/Chris Morris (OT)
by John Milne 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

The "Bushwacked 2" mp3 from www.smokehammer.com has been available for a few weeks (but I think the dance version is a new edition to the site). Just after September 11th, Chris Morris did his first "Bushmacked" mp3, but I have yet to find that. Does anyone know where it can be found? Since 2001, and a huge media fuss over his last British TV show, Morris has been keeping a relatively low profile, apart from the Bushwacked mp3s (which are similar to the work he did with Greater London Radio in the early 1990s) and a short movie called "My Wrongs #8245-8249 & 117". "My Wrongs" - which is based on the famous "Rothco" monologue from Morris' "Blue Jam" radio show - won a BAFTA recently, and was also issued on DVD (on new Warp Records subsiduary Warp Films). The DVD features an otherwise unavailable dance track, based on samples of the famous 1980s British dog-trainer Barbara Woodhouse (it makes sense if you see the film!) For tons of Morris mps, info, etc., go to: http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/ (which also features the work of the only man in the world who really shouldn't be dead, Peter Cook). John Not Scots, just cake - it's a made up drug. PS - To try and get this post back to the KLF (even slightly!) did you know that Chris Morris once used Bill and Jimmy in his work? His radio show "Blue Jam" used to have music (selected by ex-DJ Morris) running through each sketch. One particular item with Kevin Eldon - with the catchy title of "Penis Doctor" - was broadcast with the original "Madrugada Eterna" steel-guitaring underneath. Sadly, when "Blue Jam" was editted and released as a CD, the sketch was there, but the KLF track was not. The sketch also reappeared on the "Jam" TV series, but again sans the KLF.

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Re: 3 AM Eternal: Live at S.S.L.
by John Milne 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

>> Since it wasn't a "live" recording None of the "Stadium House" records are "live" (in the same way that the first side of "The White Room" isn't "live" either). I sometimes wonder if "What Time is Love (Live at the Land of Oz)" is actually a studio recording too ... The back sleeve of "Chill Out" says it was recorded "live" at Trancentral, although I think that means all the samples, keyboard-playing etc. was recorded straight to the DAT in Jimmy's squat in one forty-five minute session. An impressive feat nonetheless! On the other hand, I did read somewhere (I think it was the magazine that came free with the Orb-featuring 1993 "Trance Europe Express" compilation CD) that "What Time is Love (Live at Trancentral)" was actually based on a live performance the KLF had done at a party in the summer of 1990, and elements of that - real - live performance appear in the finished single. Curiouser and curiouser ... John Not Scots, just Scott-ish

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Re: [KLF] 3am eternal: live at S.S.L
by KLF- gyerek 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

>Very simple question - what does the S.S.L mean? Where is it? The video has >them driving around London - not very 'live'. Since it wasn't a "live" recording, the SSL may refer to the program/equipment used in making the track (Solid State Logic, also mentioned in The Manual). a Gyerek _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: [KLF] KLF Kovers?
by B4574rd＠aol.com 09 Mar '03

09 Mar '03

In a message dated 09/03/2003 12:04:50 GMT Standard Time, Highlandland(a)btopenworld.com writes: > John > > Not Scots, not Scott-ish > > PS - Completely off-topic, but this website: > http://www.thesmokehammer.com/ > has a great anti-war mp3 by British satirist (and KLF sampler) Chris Morris > for free downloading. Enjoy! - - - that trak's a monstre! jus' got it the otha day an it's killin me mates y'all shud download now didn,t know it woz chris morris tho' - he jus' keeps on comin withit - w'spek'

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RE: Custerd (LX, Jimmy Cauty & Guy Pratt)
by John Milne 09 Mar '03

09 Mar '03

>> I Wanna Marry A Lighthouse Keeper When I saw Alex Paterson DJing on Hallowe'en in 1994 he was wearing a "Clockwork Orange" t-shirt, so the above cover version would certainly fit in with his interests! John Not Scots, just nadsat

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Re: Video: TIWTKLF Are About
by John Milne 09 Mar '03

09 Mar '03

>> I'm sad to see that the Mancentral KLF site is closing down around 7 March For those interested in the KLF's work methods and motivation, the good news is the http://klf.life.eu.org/ site is still active for now. There is an invaluable set of mpegs available for download featuring a selection of interviews with Bill and Jimmy from 1990, where they discuss the difference between the KLF and JAMs, the "White Room" movie (Jimmy looks a little wistful at this), the abortive Pure Trance singles, the reasoning behind "Chill Out" and "stadium house", and their nervousness about the "White Room" sessions. Also included is a brief clip of them live on stage (I think it's the infamous gig where they handed out their sound equipment to the audience) and some footage of them recording JAMSLP6 at Trancentral. The track featured is called "The Sherrif of Mu Mu", an otherwise unreleased song based on and instrumental version of "The Lover's Side" (anyone know if there is a bootleg recording of this?). In all the footage, Bill and Jimmy are both incredibly candid and - for want of a better expression - "normal" throughout the whole interview. I have no idea where this interview originated from (save from the Mancentral site). Does anyone know anything about who interviewed them, or for what purpose the interview it was originally intended? Sorry, I downloaded this interview last week - I would have mentioned it earlier, but I thought maybe people who already know of it. Regards, John Not Scots, just Scott-ish

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Re: The Scootles
by John Milne 09 Mar '03

09 Mar '03

Since when do the KLF still exist? Only for a few fans, enthusiasts, collectors, and balding media commentators. Surely that's something trapped in amber rather than living and roaring in the Jurassic Park of the pop charts? We may swap CDRs and remixes and open ftps servers, but in the face of monumental disinterest from 99% of the populace, it's "bows and arrows against the lightning". Every major re-appreciation of a band ever has involved a re-issued CD or a greatest hits, and without it the KLF (already seen by many who remember them as being appallingly 1980s) will eventually become a tiny footnote in a very, very large book. Oh, and Woolworths is the first, and not the last, place to buy music; certainly when you're young - and growing up in a small town. I haven't bought anything other than blank CDRs from there in years - but then I'm an old man of 29 who can afford to order things off the net or travel to the city. And Scooter? Well, the sheer vitriol reserved for them on this list seems a bit unpleasant. It's music for kids, fair enough, so why bother criticising it when you're a grown up? What about attacking the bland-out nonsense of the likes of Coldplay and Travis instead? There is music directly marketed to adults, and so banal and freakishly lacking in colour and charisma, that to call it "pop music" at all is an insult to forty years of recorded song. There are many, many other things to get angry at rather than a "crap German MC shouting over records at a kids' disco" (which, incidentally, is the very lifeblood of my twelve-year-old pupils, and long may it last). John Not Scots, just skittish. PS - Does anyone remember Tokyo Ghetto Pussy? ;-)

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Re: [KLF] The Scootles
by B4574rd＠aol.com 09 Mar '03

09 Mar '03

of the klf & scooter one truly shines as a source of inspiration, intrigue and chaos (not to mention the ability to still exist when they don't) and the other just sounds like a crap german m.c. shouting over records a kids disco

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