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Re: El-P
by Marco Pronk 02 Jun '02

02 Jun '02

Andrew ahorton(a)vt.edu wrote Tue, 28 May 2002 23:38:03 -0500 >I think that "Fantastic Damage" is easily the worst thing to come out of the Def Jux crew and EL-P, ever. I must be the only who doesn't like it! The production is noisy, and horrible....it's like a pale reflection of what EL-P did for Cannibal Ox's "the cold vein." I also can't stand EL-P's constant "angry" schtick. Haven't got a chance to hear the El-P album yet (it's still somewhere on a pile of CD's I still have to listen too) and neither have I heard some Canibal Ox's yet But what I have heard from people so far that this album was very much inspired by the recent project he had done with Alec Empire (also known from the german Digital Hardcore Recordings label and Atari Teenage Riot). I don't know how many people are familiar with Alec's music but it kinda make sense with what your saying .It pretty much got compared with Alec's soloalbum "Generation Star Wars" Only Alec's material is even more noisier then El-P's. Anywayz, Marco @ The Noise Commando

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Peter Brotzmann Chicago Tentet
by Karen Murphy 01 Jun '02

01 Jun '02

Hopefully coming to a town near you... PETER BROTZMANN CHICAGO TENTET U.S. TOUR (Peter Brotzmann, Joe McPhee, Mats Gustafsson, Ken Vandermark, Mars Williams, Jeb Bishop, Fred Lonberg-Holm, Kent Kessler, Hamid Drake, Michael Zerang) 6/01/02 New York, NY: Tonic 6/02/02 Cambridge, MA: Middle East (downstairs) 6/04-06/02 Montreal, PQ: La Sala Rosa 6/07/02 Toronto, ON: St. George The Martyr 6/08/02 Buffalo, NY: University of Buffalo 6/09/02 Pittsburgh, PA: University of Pittsburgh 6/11/02 Atlanta, GA: First Existentialist Congregation 6/12/02 Lexington, KY: University of Kentucky 6/13/03 Kalamazoo, MI: Kraftbrau 6/14/02 Chicago, IL: Storefront Theatre (small groups) 6/15/02 Chicago, IL: Storefront Theatre (small groups) 6/16/02 Chicago, IL: Chicago Cultural Center SCHOOL DAYS (Ken Vandermark, Jeb Bishop, Kjell Nordeson, Ingebrigt Haker-Flaten, Paal Nilssen-Love) 6/22/02 Vancouver Jazz Festival, BC 6/23/02 Vancouver Jazz Festival, BC PETER BROTZMANN CHICAGO TENTET EUROPEAN DATES 6/26/02 Verona, Italy 6/28/02 Ljubljana, Slovenia 7/5/02 Kongsberg, Norway (tentet) 7/6/02 Kongsberg, Norway (small groups)

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Re: Victo [Peggy Lee/Marilyn Lerner CD]
by Jeni Dahmus 31 May '02

31 May '02

>is the CD interesting too and what label? I didnĀ´t find so much >while googleing. > >Andreas "Struck" by the Peggy Lee/Marilyn Lerner duo is a self-produced CD consisting of 9 tracks recorded at Western Front in Vancouver (February 2001). You probably have to purchase it from the artists. Email contacts are listed on the cover - I can send to anyone interested. I like the CD but it does not capture the energy of the Victo concert. Jeni np: Fushitsusha - Withdrawe, this sable disclosure ere devot'd (Victo) --------------------------- Nemokama el.paĆ°to dĆ«Ć¾utĆ« - http://webmail.delfi.lt/

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Re: New Fred Frith CD
by Fastian＠aol.com 31 May '02

31 May '02

Arthur Gadney wrote: > Uh, this looks great. Has anybody heard it yet?! > > 1. FRED FRITH - Accidental (Fred Records/ReR Fra 01) > >> This is definitely a great cd, more in the "Technology Of Tears" style with layers of instruments and noise over a repeating pattern or rhythym.. Frith plays everything on the cd including lots of violin. There's 11 pieces so the ideas come and go quickly with a lot of variety. One piece is dedicated to Phil Minton that is all vocals, with Minton type gurgles, whispers, and howls. Often there's sticatto bursts of noise over the top of everything that makes you wonder if your cd player is functioning correctly. This is another fine Frith effort (recorded in '96 so its been in the vaults for awhile). It makes me anticipate more releases from Fred Records. It's distributed by Wayside/Cuneiform in the states so that's probably the easiest place to get it from if you don't live close to a good store. Cheers, John Threadgould

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D.Shea / IAO
by Ricardo Campillo 31 May '02

31 May '02

I went to the David Shea project: A Sound Film in Eight Scenes,was very interesting: a little room , no more than 50 people, a keyboard with samples, and of course D.Shea. Eight fragmented pieces with different thematics.: cartoon music, movie fragments, chamber music ... The best pieces was the first and last. The first piece was a brutal mix of jazz, rock, techno, movie sounds...some of the samples of this piece are extracted from Naked City i think. The last piece was a very enigmatic version of satyricon . Now, other thing. An hours ago I listened for the first time the IAO , and I'm disappointed too, too boring. This is my first impression, but i expect more. That's all. Ricardo. n.p:John Cage "Imaginary Landscapes" _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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Re: arcturus/solefald/meshuggah
by William York 31 May '02

31 May '02

<<I'm mainly disappointed that SHAM MIRRORS didn't seem to hold up (to my few listenings) to the fascinating descriptions of Arcturus that I've read. Is LA MASQUERADE INFERNAL different?>> Yes, and so is 'disguised masters', the 'remix' cd of that album. i think 'la masq...' is still my favorite of theirs. as for why his voice is 'controversial', listen to 'la masq...' and ulver's 'theme's william blake's the marrage of heaven and hell', then backtrack to ulver's 'nattens madrigal' (harsh black metal in the style of darkthrone), the first borknagar cd (abrasive, yet still majestic/wagnerian black metal), and also ulver's 'bergtatt' (folkish black metal w/ almost gregorian chant-like vocals) and 'kveldssanger' (like the folk parts of 'bergtatt' without the metal, very good, somber, despairing, etc.) ... following these early screaming-your-entrails out albums, the booming operatic style and then the smooth singing of the latest arcturus are a strange thing to hear. re: solefald, i like all of their albums. hopefully their first, 'the linear scaffold', will be reissued soon. they salvage what is good from the more 'vampyric'/keyboard-heavy 'black metal' style more tackily practiced by cradle of filth, et al. , and add their own bizarre songwriting twists and intelligent, sarcastic, definitely-not-normal for-metal lyrics. 'pills against the ageless ills' is standard in comparison, but w/ great songwriting ... the production could have been a little stronger though. one more thing -- the new meshuggah album is going to be called 'nothing' and will be out in a few months. supposedly it will be more straightforward than 'chaosphere'. (just to reemphasize, for people who have not heard these bands, meshuggah and arcturus/solefald sound completely, totally different and have almost nothing in common except for the blanket 'metal' tag). wy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Fwd: arto lindsay live (portugal day : 9)
by Efrén del Valle 31 May '02

31 May '02

Hi, He's performing 4 days later at Barcelona's Sonar Festival with Melvin Gibbs on bass, Micah Caugh (?) on samplers and keyboards and their sound technician will be Ben Rubin (they consider him the fourth member of the band since the sound will apparently have a complex design on this tour). Also, anyone knows what Christian Marclay's been up to recently? He's performing the same day as Lindsay and it would be a good chance to see him. I missed David Shea to days ago! Shame on me. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle > > anyone knows who's touring with arto? > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Converse com amigos on-line, conheÃ§a o MSN > Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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Re: Meshuggah
by thesubtlebody 31 May '02

31 May '02

Francko wrote: >While you're at it, check out the new Arcturus >album, which is the best album >I've heard this year in any genre (although Nurse >With Wound's "Man With The >Woman Face" is also top-notch). The perfect >post-modern metal album. I'd like to respectfully, personally disagree. I found Arcturus' SHAM MIRRORS to be kind of mediocre and cheesy. Not that this is a hard-cast criterion, but it didn't seem very heavy, nor terribly complex; the synthesizer sounds seemed like goofy stock presets, and the variation between ideas and genres seemed a lot more staid and monochromatic than descriptions of the album led me to believe. And I'm not sure how Garm's voice could be controversial to anyone (I remember some talk about how his voice wasn't to the liking of a number of folks, like that alone might be a stumbling block to enjoyment of the music), as it's a clean, showtune-belting, semi-operatic clean kind of affair, Mike Patton Lite. (When Ihsahn comes in toward the in end of the record, it's a definite "oh shit!" kind of moment, and a nice contrast.) Speaking of Patton, the spectre of Faith No More's ANGEL DUST would seem (to me) to hang all over this record like a cheap suit: style, execution, method, sounds....that clean, chrome, burnished prog pastiche metal kind of thing. I'm trying to get into interesting metal stuff, and Meshuggah's CHAOSPHERE completely blew me away, and my impression of Solefald's PILLS TO CURE..., Candiria's 300% DENSITY (take that, "nu metal"!), and Dillinger Escape Plan's CALCULATING INFINITY (awesome hardcore-tinged metal, or vice versa?) was almost as strong. I'm mainly disappointed that SHAM MIRRORS didn't seem to hold up (to my few listenings) to the fascinating descriptions of Arcturus that I've read. Is LA MASQUERADE INFERNAL different? More metal recommendations are always welcome, as long as the List brooks it... Thanks for tolerating my newbie meanderings. -------s __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Jewlia Eisenberg dates in NYC June 5 & 7
by Steve Smith 31 May '02

31 May '02

Sounds interesting... -----Original Message----- From: Jewlia Eisenberg Subject: Live Nerd Girls! NerdySexyCommieGirlie music comes to New York! Jewlia Eisenberg is bringing her singing group, Charming Hostess, back to New York. We will be celebrating the release of "TRILECTIC," her CD on Tzadik's Radical Jewish Culture Series, described by John Zorn as, "an astonishing solo debut by this intensively creative musical thinker...as charming as it is challenging." "Trilectic" is an a cappella tour de force of sex, politics, and Jewish intellectual history. It's funny, too. Musically, it sources Jewish forms (from Andalusia to Eastern Europe) and African-derived forms (from doo-wop to Pygmy polyphony). So check it out check it out! All commies! All the time! Wall-to-wall live nerd girls! Wednesday June 5 Makor 35 W 67th St 10 PM Friday June 7 Tonic 107 Norfolk St. 8 PM Singers: Jewlia Eisenberg, Marika Hughes, Dawn McCarthy, Ariela Morgenstern "Jewlia Eisenberg's work is irreverent and ambitious. Her voice radiates female energy and her singing transforms the spirit." ----The San Francisco Chronicle

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Re: El-P (or, the old rap/hiphop thread ...)
by pm.carey＠utoronto.ca 31 May '02

31 May '02

* Dgasque(a)aol.com: >Anyone picked up on El-P's _Fantastic Damage_ CD? If this isn't the >most warped stuff I've heard in a while, then someone spiked my coffee >with an unknown hydrochloride. I'm not much of a rap fan, but this >stuff is absolutely insane... Sure. ;) Got it a week before it came out, I believe, but I'm a long time fan of El-P/Co-Flow/Def Jux etc. Easily in the top 5, if not hip hop LP of the year. Haven't heard the new Shadow yet, but I'm hoping it'll be in there too. -Patrick NP: Rolling Stones - "Let It Bleed"

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