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Re: zorn-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 21
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

>> Who were the Stick Men? http://www.cuneiformrecords.com/bandshtml/stickmen.html

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re: Ulmer
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

>I don't care so much for his harmolodic stuff Man, I love that stuff. In the early 1980's, if you weren't into new-wave, the ONLY good stuff that came to DC and played the clubs was the punk/jazz stuff. Seeing R.S. Jackson and the Decoding Society, Blood Ulmer, Defunkt, etc. was the main saving grace of that period of time. I'm more partial to the Decoding Society, because I saw them the most times, but I love ALL that stuff. And that wonderful trio with Warren Benbow (drums) and Charles Burnham (violin). WOOOOHOOOO I even contacted R.S. Jackson about reissuing the unavailable Moers albums on CD, but that's another story for another time... Steve Cuneiform

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re: white intellectual funk out
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

Skp wrote: >My personal "white intellectual funk out" Why not add Marxism to the mix and praise Gang Of Four? I think THEY were the best... or subtract the Marxism and add general insanity and mention The Stick Men (who I know you loved)... Steve

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blood
by Kurt Gottschalk 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

i'll second skip and peter's recommendations of the recent electric ladyland disc. and certainly his catalog is uneven, and there's little agreement about it anyway. i don't care for the music revelation ensemble, for example, even tho someone else picked it. 'odyssey' is great, as is the live (oop) odyssey disc on knitting factory. unlike peter, i do like his harmolodic stuff. 'music speaks louder than words' is fantastic, as is 'harmolodic guitar with strings.' not sure if 'tales of capt. black' was mentioned already, but that's a good one. and 'forbidden blues' isn't bad, tho not as good as the two vernon reid discs. kg np: wfmu _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1

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Re: white intellectual funk out
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

Skp wrote: >what I should have added was "of the period". > >ENTERTAINMENT is still the grail those guys are trying for. You're so >right. I like Solid Gold basically as much, although I know that most folks think it's not as good. Maybe that's because I heard that one more or first (I don't remember anymore, to be honest....) What a great band. Steve

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Re: Re: James Blood Ulmer
by Renaud BERTRAND 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

I didn't listen to it for years, but I remember Lou Reed live in Italy as a great album. I'd file this one as the best Lou Reed album of the 80s with "New York", mostly thanks to the band, which has more edge as on the Blue Mask. The Velvet classics versions are quite painfull to listen to, but Quine and Fernando Saunders on bass (if I remember correctly) make this an excellent rock album. Renaud > Message du 15/01/04 10:32 > De : Efrén del Valle > A : skip heller , Peter Gannushkin , SELC - Andrew Mortensen > Copie à : > Objet : Re: James Blood Ulmer > --- skip heller > escribió: > > > > > > As for the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, they definitely > > came up with a sound that > > was theirs. I have to respect that, even if I'm not > > a fan. Few people ever > > do that. > > I really dug "Mother's Milk" and "Blood, Sugar, Sex > Magik" but after that I think the general impression > is they've gone down the hill. I think worst of all > was the avalanche of imitators (quite similar to FNM's > case), but "B,S,S,M" was a great album and on top of > that, popular and accessible, which doesn't seem a > regular combination of terms nowadays, as we discussed > here several weeks ago. > > > I never got the sense that Ribot owed that much to > > Quine, whose playing I > > also know quite well (or rather I did up to about > > that time -- I can only > > listen to so much Lou Reed). > > I don't know Quine's playing from the purely technical > point of view (my knowledge of the guitar must be > limited to seven or eight chords, I must admit) but I > see lots of similarities between them. Besides the > 60's twangy/surf guitar sound-influence, there's > always this "skeletical" approach to soloing, for > instance- there are lots of exceptions in Ribot's > playing, though, specially when he's in a jamming > context like Bar Kokhba, Emergency, etc... But even in > those recordings with Waits, I get the feeling that > he's got a taste for the "lowest common > denominator"-approach. > By the way, how's Reed's "Live in Italy" with the > "blue mask" band? > > Best, > > Efrén del Valle > > > ___________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS > Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... > http://messenger.yahoo.es > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list >

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Re: James Blood Ulmer
by Crowmeat Bob 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

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Re: DNA
by Perfect Sound Forever 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:06:33 +0000 >From: "Gullasch Baronen" <theclosethipster(a)hotmail.com> > >Why is there no CD compiling all the old DNA stuff? The 7", the tracks from >"No New York" and "A Taste Of DNA" could easily fit on one CD and it would >definately make an excellent album! Something is actually in the works now. More information as it comes in. Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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DNA
by Gullasch Baronen 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hello. Why is there no CD compiling all the old DNA stuff? The 7", the tracks from "No New York" and "A Taste Of DNA" could easily fit on one CD and it would definately make an excellent album! Since Zorn dug out the equally excellent live recording and released it on Avant, I hope he will also get around to rereleasing the rest of it some day... or, is there any reason why nobody has done it? The mastertapes are gone or something? Jonas _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk

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RE: sampling: dj olive
by Andreas Dietz 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

thereÂ´s a release from last year and itÂ´s amazing: BODEGA (The Agriculture) I think itÂ´s his first solo release and it would have made it on my best of 2003 list if I had got it earlier. btw: the 3 WE releases are highly recommendable too - are they still active as a trio? Andreas np: Tim Berne - The Sublime And... >From: doron galili <dgalilio(a)ucla.edu> > >>more recommendations on the whole sampling thing:... >>DJ Olive > >does he have any solo releases? i know of his work with Uri Caine and SYR. >any recommendations for other titles? >thanks, >Doron _________________________________________________________________ WuÃten Sie, daÃ Sie Ihren Hotmail-Posteingang auch Ã¼ber den MSN Messenger abrufen kÃ¶nnen? http://messenger.msn.de Jetzt kostenlos downloaden und einfach testen!

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