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Re: uhhh top 10
by Epistrophy＠aol.com 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

In a message dated 12/11/2003 4:07:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, ahorton(a)vt.edu writes: << 5. starflyer 59- "old" >> Now *there's* an interesting inclusion. I just don't get this band. I've even seen them live three or four times and they just bore me into coma. But I've heard this album is quite different from their others, yes? - Todd

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Re: A good bunch of Tzadik releases
by Patrice L. Roussel 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Skip, Are you not overdoing it? I mean, saying that Zorn is getting a little heavy on Masada seems to me like a shared feeling among many old timer fans of Zorn music (at least the few left on the list). Or are you simply nit picking on the semantic used by Efren to convey his feeling? Isn't it a natural topic to talk about? Or are we only supposed -- the poor of us not technically equipped -- to simply worship or shut up? For history (if anybody cares), wasn't Zorn making fun of Lacy and Braxton for putting out so many records? One thing is sure, Zorn has beaten them largely and at a much younger age. I have numbers if you want. Don't worry, I am sure that John and Dave will survive to what was said and which I think was fairly innocuous. Did your new record project get refused? I mean, something terrible must have happen to you to display such anger. Patrice.

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Re: 2003 Top 10
by Alfonso Vargas Gamio 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

1. King Crimson - The Power to Believe (Sanctuary) 2. Solefald - In Harmonia Universali (Century Media) 3. Opeth - Damnation (Music for Nations) 4. Tomahawk - Mit Gas (Ipecac) 5. Ulver - First Decade in the Machines (Jester) 6. Type O Negative - Life Is Killing Me (Roadrunner) 7. Ulver - Svidd Neger (Jester) 8. OSI - OSI (Inside Out) 9. Alamaailman Vasarat - KÃ¤Ã¤rmelautakunta (Silence.) 10. Ephel Duath - The Painter's Palette (Elitist) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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Re: List settings (was: is the ZORN LIST still active?)
by IOUaLive1＠aol.com 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Thanks to all that let me know that I was unsubscribed (I had a feeling... I should actually check this email address once in a while). Strange, that I can post to the list, while unsubscribed. Have I missed any exciting Zorn news? Is Masada 35 out yet? Soon I'll take the time to resubscribe so I can read your responses. -Jody

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is the ZORN LIST still active?
by IOUaLive1＠aol.com 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Either there have been no posts to this group in a long, long time, or somehow Ive been unsubscribed........

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Re: players' agendas
by rancho hagman 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

> I learned that when an artist I admire starts making records I don't like, > it's probably because what he feels compelled anough to record and put out > is not the same thing as what I want to hear. The fact that I want to hear > Joey Baron and Kermit Driscoll doesn;t make the recent crop of Frisell > records bad. His adgenda as a player is different from mine as a listener. > IT DOES NOT GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO TELL HIM WHAT HE SHOULD MAKE, WITH WHOM, > NOR WHAT TO COMPOSE. As long as he's making what he makes with every bit > of skill he has, I wish him well. I cast my vote at the record store. And yet, is this what JZ himself does (as listener/label honcho/session funder) when he makes album suggestions to various artists? was D.Bailey's "agenda as a player" really about making a trio record with W. Parker, etc? i am sure some artists pass on his suggestions for projects but doubtless if they do, they do so with great ambivalence because for many impoverished artists there are few funded recording opportunites. (example: JZ suggested to John Schott that he make a gtr/b/d trio album. schott passed on it, but i think he was ambivalent...and he is arguably underrecorded.) sometimes i find myself wishing JZ, and others in his position, would not make the suggestions to the artists but let them come in with their own ideas (i know, this does indeed happen alot). other examples of what i'm talking about--that koto player's trio record of monk tunes was a label guy's suggestion if i remember correctly.... and various other boutique label owners' bright ideas for personnel groupings. i mean, this still happens a heckuva lot in the jazz/improv world. more than i wish it did. (after awhile i start to tune out the onslaught of debabatable concepts). I guess it happens in other scenes also, more than i realize? GC san francisco

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top 10 2003
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Steve Lacy, "The Holy la" <cq> (Sunnyside) -- relaxed almost sunny session by lacy's longtime trio (+irene) John Scofield, "Up All Night" (Verve) -- this is the post-hiphop jazz CD Sco's been after, a melange that consistently holds up song to song like no album he's done since A Go Go Dino Saluzzi, "Responsorium" (ECM) -- Dino throws Astor off his shoulder Thelonious Monk, "Monk in Paris: Live at the Olympia" (Hyena) -- just when you thought you had no room for yet another Monk, Charlie Rouse comes bursting out the gates like his hair's on fire Charlie Hunter, "Right Now Move" (Ropeadope) -- Hunter just keeps making that groove hipper and deeper, lots of cool little songs, and the two horns+harmonica lineup sounds great Steve Swallow, "Damaged in Transit" (WATT) -- Any questions about what Chris Potter can do? Not after listening to this live trio CD. Garage a Trois, "Emphasizer" (Tone Cool) -- C. Hunter, Stanton Moore, and Skerik, bring a new sparkle to the coal mine of jam bands Globe Unity Orchestra, "Globe Unity 2002" (Intakt) -- The Euro masters' reunion, with the focus and nearly the urgency of your dreams Garcia-Gebbia-Wogram, "Pronto!" (Intakt) -- the closest thing to the great Braxton/George Lewis sessions you'll hear these days Dave Holland, "Extended Play -- Live at Birdland" (ECM) -- wonderful spontaneous interaction, especially between Robin Eubanks and Chris Potter Kitty Brazelton & Dafna Naphtali, "What Is It Like To Be A Bat?" (Tzadik) -- the noisey unexpected surprise of the year Art Ensemble of Chicago, "Tribute to Lester" (ECM) -- As a trio, displaying a startling intimacy

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Re: Top 10 2003
by Ricardo Campillo 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Top 10 releases: -Adachi Tomomi Royal Chorus "Yo" (Tzadik) -Diamanda GalÃ¡s "La Serpenta canta" (Mute) -Marc Ribot "Scelsi morning"(tzadik) -Michael Snow "Never say no to a jar" (Igo) -Zoffy "Thou shalt not mess with zoffy!!" (Eclipse) -Cremaster"27 november 2002" (Sound 323) -JoÃ«lle LÃ©andre"The space between with JoÃ«lle LÃ©andre"(482 music) -John Zorn "Chimeras" (Tzadik) -Painkiller "Talisman:Live in Nagoya" (tzadik) -Yoshimi and Yuka "Flower with no color" (ipecac) Top 5 concerts:(all in Barcelona) -Ernest Reijseger & Franco D'Andrea -F.J.MirÃ³ -Gush-F.J.MirÃ³ -Japanese new music festival- Apolo -Andrea Neumann - Seu districte Gracia -John Tilbury -Espai Top 5 films:(shown for the first time in Spain this year)(I have to translate some of the titles myself, sorry): -Intoxicated by my Illnes (Stephen Dwoskin) -Pistol Opera (Seijun Suzuki) -Hero (Zhang Yimou) -Half-close the eyes (Andrzej Jakimowski) -Mistic River (Clint Eastwood) The reissue of the year: Schlippenbach Trio "Pakistani Pomade"(FMP - Atavistic) The DVD of the year:"By Brakhage: an anthology"(Criterion Collection) _______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sorteos Â¡Ya puedes comprar LoterÃa de Navidad! http://yahoo.ventura24.es/

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uhhh top 10
by ahorton 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

my list 1. Sole- "selling live water" 2. the shins- "chutes too narrow" 3. sufjan stevens- "michigan" 4. the new pornographers- "the electric version" 5. starflyer 59- "old" 6. why? - "oaklandazulasylum" 7. david sylvian- "blemish" 8. the books- "the lemon of pink" 9. grandaddy- "sumday" 10. ted leo & the pharmacists- "hearts of oak" androo

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No more MST or 15 50th birthday celebration releases
by Peter Gannushkin 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Hi All, As it was mentioned here earlier today, the second CD in the new 50th birthday celebration series will be Graves-Zorn Duo. /Hey Kurt, your the best of 2003 show might become the best of 2004 CD release :-)/ But then we are going to have 13 more releases. One a month for a year and a half. (Don't tell me that it should be 18 releases then - it is not my math after all). The next or the one after next will be Locus Solus with Zorn-Lindsay-Fier, then Hemophiliac. We might even have Electric Masada live CD. So, I guess, almost all the bands who played in September will be out on Tzadik. Hope it will satisfy all kinds of listeners. PS If Tzadik will release all sets from that month as single CDs it will take exactly (well, in fact almost) five years. Then the 55th birthday celebration should take place to start a new series. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/

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