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Metal (was: RE:Tzadik/Maya Deren questions)
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

> why zorn don't consider bands(and their side > projects) like:ATROX(monika > edvarsen),SOLEFALD,CRYPTOPSY,PECCATUM,THE > PROVENANCE,DARTH VEGAS,SLEEPYTIME GORILLA > MUSEUM,CEPHALIC CARNAGE,MESHUGGAH etc....? > i think that i am tired of all this called post > rock-post metal > I'm nothing of a metal fan generally speaking, but > I've heard good things about Cryptopsy. What makes for > a good starter? > I don't know how Kaya Dot sounds, but I can't see > Meshuggah fitting in Tzadik (not that I think Yuka > Honda's album fitted either!) Cryptopsy are OK, you should listen to "Whisper Supremacy" to get an idea of what they're about. But I wouldn't necessarily recommend them as one of today's more interesting metal bands. What I would recommend, though, are on the one hand technical bands that REALLY kick ass like the almighty Meshuggah, Mastodon and Burnt By The Sun. You will not believe the power of Mastodon's drummer. I've seen them live, and I was floored. They had people following them around Europe to watch each and every gig they did. Get their "Remission" album, easily the best metal release of 2002. On the other hand, there are the doom-oriented bands like Sunn O))) and Khanate that are really interesting. I just picked up the new Khanate album "Things Viral" yesterday, and this really is the next step in extreme metal. I also totally love "white1" by Sunn O))), released earlier this year. As always, there's a lot happening in the black metal universe, too. The new album by the US (!) black metal band Demoncy, "Empire of the Fallen Angel", is really good. Also, Enslaved released yet another very good album this year, "Below the Lights". It has a very strong early 70s prog-rock feel, especially when the mellotrons rear their head. Another superb album is "Sphynx" by the Mesopotamia-influenced Melechesh. Lots of Arabic touches here, and an overall recommendable effort. They are propelled forward by the drummer of Absu, by the way. Most interesting of all, though, is "The Ichneumon Method" by UK outfit Axis of Perdition. Citing Lovecraft, Philip K. Dick, Ramsey Campbell, and "true black metal" as their main influences, they have shattered the boundaries of black metal by incorporating techno/industrial influences, and by using a drum machine the way it should be used - by having it play rhythms that no human is capable of. Their album is compared to Anaal Nathrakk, who, sadly, I haven't heard yet. What is most striking about Axis of Perdition is the complete extremetiy of the album. Where Khanate is extreme by virtue of their slowness, Axis are extreme due to the sheer sensory overload the album presents. In this sense, they are closer to Merzbow sometimes than to what is generally perceived as metal. One reviewer says that Axis's music is "non-Euclidean", and that pretty much sums up their intensity. I am curious to hear the new album by Mithras, "Worlds Beyond the Veil". It gets 10/10 in Terrorizer magazine (I've never seen that happen before), and the reviewer says it is as important a release as Slayer's "Reign in Blood" and Metallica's "Master of Puppets" or Morbid Angel's "Altars of Madness" were back in the days. Sadly, the album hasn't been released in Holland yet, so I've had no chance to hear it. As Mithras appear to present "traditional" death metal, I am very curious to hear why every review I've read so far seems to think this is one of the best metal albums of all time. None of these bands fit into the Tzadik roster. Tzadik should stay as far away as possible from metal, in my opinion. Frankco

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right on!
by CuneiWay＠aol.com 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Sean wrote > it's analagous to the original CD issue of the >Mothers' 'we're only in it for the money', except not as heinous. I laffed so hard when I saw this that I started to choke. My sentiments (re: "Money") exactly Steve

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Fw: Finding new ONJQ
by Jan-wen Lu 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

The best way to get them is to contact Yoshiyuki Suzuki of "Improvised Music From Japan". http://www.japanimprov.com He has both of them. You can also order the latest Otomo Yoshihide/Nobukazu Takemura- Turntables and Computers CD. A wonderful duo live recording of Otomo's turntable playing and Takemura's computer effects. Otomo Yoshihide/Bill Laswell/Yasuhiro Yoshigaki trio recording will be available on P-Vine Records in December. Jan-wen Lu > > > > > Anyone stateside have any luck finding places to order the new P-Vine > > Otomo+OE release or the new one on Vinylsoyuz? > > > > Ryan > > > > NL: Taku Sugimoto chamber music > > NR: Harpers article on Clear Channel > > > > > >

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Hip-Hop & Maya Deren
by Craig Lieske 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

I saw Aesop Rock and Mr. Lif the other night at the club I manage. This was my real first encounter with the Def Jux style. Mr. Lif was incredible. The way he phrased his frequently pointed and very interesting rhymes reminded me of the way a master saxophonist spins out solos, very melodic and very musical. Aesop was good, but Lif was a revelation. As far as the Maya Deren video goes, I have to recommend it. Frequently beautiful and disturbing to a degree, she went where few else have been in the annals of film. Craig L. _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games

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Zaireeka, indeed
by Chris Selvig 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

The cool cats buy two copies of "Double Nickels on the Dime," and play all four locked grooves simultaneously for parking garage good times. Chris Selvig

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Re: Finding new ONJQ
by doron galili 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

> >Anyone stateside have any luck finding places to order the new P-Vine >Otomo+OE release surprisingly, it can be found at http://music.barnesandnoble.com (just search YOSHIHIDE in their music section). if only life could always be that easy. why won't you write back how it sounds like after you got it? i'm curious.

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Re: finding new ONJQ
by Alan Cummings 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

You can order the P-Vine one directly from the label - and they do take cc order. http://www.bls-act.co.jp/order.html Alan On 17/11/03 4:08 pm, "zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com" <zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Anyone stateside have any luck finding places to order the new P-Vine > Otomo+OE release or the new one on Vinylsoyuz? > > Ryan

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upcoming hats
by Ben Axelrad 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Hi, Anybody heard/have any further information on these two upcoming hatology releases? Looks like they're going electronic. hatOLOGY 2-606 Wolfgang Mitterer Radio Fractal / Beat Music Live at Donaueschingen 2002 hatOLOGY 2-607 <trio x 3> New Jazz Meeting Baden-Baden 2002 I'm especially interested in the second one. It features Steve Lacy, 5 other jazz musicians, Bernhard Lang, Christof Kurzmann, and Philip Jeck. Looks like they're recordings and remixes of Lang's "Differenz/Wiederholung" with musicians playing/improvising on top. Lang's "D/W" is based on texts by Burroughs, Deleuze, and ? (forget the 3rd name). There's a very good recording of this on the Kairos label. I'm a big Lacy fan and can't wait to hear him playing with Jeck and Kurzmann. Thanks, Ben _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio

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More Beatles "Let It Be Naked"
by Efrén del Valle 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Hi, I just listened to this new creature from the EMI/Apple guys, "Let It Be... Naked", which came out today, and I was wondering (as was predictable when they announced the release): Was this really necessary? Does it add something new? Is the inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down" worth the album's money, considering that it appeared in previous compilations? Isn't this a "minus bonus tracks" album in fact? (they removed at least two tracks) Don't ask me why, but I was expecting something a bit different from the Spector-version, but besides sounding a bit rawer-just because they removed the strings arrangements- it doesn't add too much. All in all, it's just a reissue of "Let It Be" under the label of "new version". If you thought "LIB" was one of their weakest albums, this probably won't make you change your mind. If you were used to the wall-of-sound, then stick with it. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versiÃ³n GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y mÃ¡s... http://messenger.yahoo.es

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RE: Flaming Lips (was Beck etc)
by ahorton 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

>===== Original Message From kev booyaka <ahairyscreaming(a)yahoo.com> ===== >i'm all into Zaireeka myself these days, even though i only have one CD player, heh. >talk about stripping your own music - that guts! >there's one track in there with some keyboard horns and strings which proves that these guys could write a great symphony if they wanted! > >hats of to Wayne Coyne & Co. Being a huge Lips fan since "hit to death in the future head", I'm pleasantly surprised to see them suddenly pick up a bunch of popularity lately. Sure, they had their moment with "she don't use jelly" back in '94, but it seems like "the soft bulletin" and "yoshimi" have exposed them to a new audience and they're all appearing in "Maxim" and Dell commercials and junk. By the way- there's a great "Zaireeka" bootleg out there floating around that has all four discs mixed down to one stereo CD. I heard it once, but have never owned it. andrew

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