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Killer Joey
by Rory Carr 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Is Killer Joey worth spending my euros on? I don't know anything about the 3 other guys... Joey Baron (drums) Brad Shepik (guitar) Steve Cardenas (guitar) Tony Scherr (bass) Rory. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: Live Leng T'che
by Andreas Dietz 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

as far as I know Naked City never played Saalfelden. Zorn performed with News For Lulu in 1987 and East Asian Bar Bands in 1988 Andreas np: Tim Berne Caos Totale - Pace Yourself (JMT) >I have a version of Leng T'che played in Vienna on July 6, 1991. It lasts >22 mn 49 s. Maybe it's the one you speak about (Saalfelden Jazz Fest).... > >- Thierry _________________________________________________________________ Senden und empfangen Sie MSN Hotmail Ã¼ber Ihren PocketPC: http://pocketpc.msn.de

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Re: Odp: Live Leng T'che
by Arthur Gadney 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

> > as far as I know Naked City never played Saalfelden. Zorn performed with > > News For Lulu in 1987 and East Asian Bar Bands in 1988 > >Are you sure? I have a bootleg recording of the band woth Mike Patton >replacing Eye, marked as Saalfelden. Fairly sure this is wrong. Naked City never played Saalfelden with a vocalist. They toured Europe with Patton in 1991 or 1992 and plyed some festival. Possilby Moers, but not sure. Maybe Frankfurt. A video exists somewhere. I think Patton has only been to Saalfelden with Han Bennink. Anything else would come as a surprise to me. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Live Leng T'che
by Arthur Gadney 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

>as far as I know Naked City never played Saalfelden. Zorn performed with >News For Lulu in 1987 and East Asian Bar Bands in 1988 Naked City was there with Kermit Driscoll on bass. Pretty sure it was 1988 as well. That was the big Zorn/Frisell year, I believe. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Derek Bailey - Ballads on Tzadik
by Theo Klaase 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

This album is stunning. Beautifully recorded and executed. My question is: The guitar Derek is playing - is it an acoustic? I've seen him play a Gibson ES-175 but the guitar on the album sure sounds like an acoustic to me. What kind of guitar is that on the back photo? The album is perhaps the best I've heard from Derek Bailey... ===== -That which is Theo "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." "It is harder to kill a government program that it is to kill a vampire." www.fstylee.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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Re: Trane's later years
by Steve Smith 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:12:33 -0700 skip Heller <velaires(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > it doesn't sound to me > like the group identity of which you speak was > ever realized. emphasize "to > me". With all due respect, this is one of those comparatively rare instances where I have to step in and say, "SKIP HELLER IS WRONG." (Though he's certainly entitled to his opinion.) The last Coltrane group is so vastly UNDERrated it's just plain sad, and in particular, Alice's role (though I can't say I'm so blown away with every album that's currently being reissued in the ongoing rehabilitation of her career). Even supporters fall prey to unwitting condescension - witness Bill Shoemaker's recent Jazz Times review, where he basically credits Alice with rolling up her sleeves and going to work like all good widows do, completely disregarding her distinguished career preceding the years with Trane. Uggh. To my earrs, the late group created a striking, singular sound and maintained it for a few short, incandescent years. And yes, while a great many musicians did sit in with the band in its not-quite-final years, on record the quartet/quintet is emphasized to great advantage. The posthumously released 'Stellar Regions' just reaffirms how tragic Trane's death was - the group was clearly on the cusp of something new, including a newborn synthesis of the later expressionistic style and the earlier sense of form and structure. Graham, I'm most certainly among those waiting eagerly for John's book. Please keep us posted on further developments. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Beethoven, 'Fidelio' - Vienna State Opera / Maazel (London)

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Re: Berne-ing questions
by William Crump 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

I keep reading about this legendary festival review. How about chopping it into small enough pieces and sending all the pieces at once? And after all this buildup, it better be damn good! (Emoticons are against my religion, or I would put a smiley here. Pretend.) William Crump ---------- >From: "Vincent Kargatis" <lartis(a)ath.forthnet.gr> > > Well, my festival review is in the pipeline, guess the mod's not around atm > to approve its length, so here's the Berne excerpt. Short answer is the

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Re: Saalfelden
by Vincent Kargatis 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

> From: "Andrew Newcombe" <andynew(a)members.v21.co.uk> > -Mephista (Although I think it would have been just as good as a duo > without Mori), Hm, not me. I especially liked the sonic interaction between Courvoisier's inside piano playing and Ikue's laptop. > -Tim Berne Clownfinger (Sounded a bit like bloodcount with different > instrumentation - still good but I expected something different). Hm, as far as judging relative to Berne's various groupings, I don't hear this. Have you heard SCIENCE FRICTION? Do you think that album sounds like Bloodcount? Do you think this performance sounded more like Bloodcount than thAT album? Dang, still waiting for my review to be approved... -- Vincent Kargatis np: General Magic & Pita - LIVE AND FINAL FRIDGE

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Re: Berne-ing questions
by Vincent Kargatis 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

> >Tim Berne's Clownfinger > Q: This is one of Tim's groups I'm not familiar with. Who's in it? Well, my festival review is in the pipeline, guess the mod's not around atm to approve its length, so here's the Berne excerpt. Short answer is the 'group' is probably just a temporary congregation given a name by Tim, I'd guess - it's the SCIENCE FRICTION band plus Herb Robertson and Scott Colley. 16:30 TIM BERNE "Clownfinger" USA, France Tim Berne: saxophone Herb Robertson: trombone Marc Ducret: guitar Craig Taborn: piano Scott Colley: bass Tom Rainey: drums Basically an augmented SCIENCE FRICTION band/sound. I'm a huge Berne fan, and of course dug this. Berne never coasts, ime. They performed "Huevos", "Sigh Fry", and "Clown Finger" from SF, and an unrecorded comp called "The Shell Game" (which did not appear on the album of the same name from last year). Berne and Robertson recalled their early partnership in a nice high-tension duo on "Huevos", backed by Colley and Rainey. Herb was undermixed, imo, and I couldn't hear him very well, worsened because he spent most of the time doing his fast, small-detail playing, which just got lost. Berne's sound seems to me to be developing like a constantly sharpening knife. Ducret just rocked - you could tell he was making an impression on the audience. Colley sounded really strong too - he's new to this crowd, afaik. "The Shell Game" featured on really nice section where Tim, Herb, Craig, and Marc were all playing these long, subtle tones, with Scott and Tom boiling over the top. Nice. Ime, Tim doesn't like encores, but they did one here, a really high-energy version of another SF track (can't remember which, sorry). > Q: Has anyone got 'The Sevens'? What do you think of it? Does it come in > that flimsy packaging like 'Science Friction'? Standard packaging, on New World Records. An interesting album with some variety - a composed sax quartet piece, two short guitar solos, two David Torn remixes, and an incredible centerpiece for quartet plus Tim and Ducret. Try this link for a bit of discussion on it (paste to one line, of course). http://www.jazzjukebox.com/EmazeForums/program/readForum.cfm?confID=10&forum ID=13749 -- Vincent Kargatis np: Toshimaru Nakamura - NO-INPUT MIXING BOARD 2 (a bruit secret)

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Re: Phil and Hal [was RE: Bill Frisell & film music question]
by Steve Smith 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

God, what a relief! I didn't really admit it at first, but this mental lapse REALLY bothered me, since both of those scores date from a period when I still cared quite a lot about Glass and his music. Which is not to entirely diss Glass, mind you... I still enjoy some of his more recent music, but I've simply seen fewer signs of genuine development since, oh, I don't know, 'Akhnaten'? I think I've already mentioned that the score for the upcoming 'Naqoyqatsi' is a winner, and I do plan to see his new opera 'Gallileo Gallilei' in October. Otherwise, it's Glass's earliest music I tend to return to most. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Eric Stokes, 'Whittlings' - Zeitgeist (New World) On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:21:15 -0700 Joseph Zitt <jzitt(a)metatronpress.com> wrote: Nope, Steve is right again: there was indeed music from Powaqqatsi. http://www.philipglass.com/truman.html lists music from that, Anima Mundi, and Mishima as being in The Truman Show. I broke out laughing when the Powaqqatsi music started, and was amused to see a shot of Glass himself playing in the TV studio.

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