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Re: Things I just don't get
by Ryan Novak 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

>So over here, Vandermark is being applauded for his >free jazz, while he is >actually playing pieces off of SPIRITS REJOICE (by >Albert Ayler) note for >note. If there ever was such a thing as free jazz, >Vandermark doesn't do it. Yeah, right- it ain't "new" so it's no good. Didn't we have a recent discussion based around this little obsession? Sometimes some nerd who runs a sine-wave for an hour gets more kudos than someone who can actually play, just because it's the new thing. The quality is what matters to me, the voice, and if it comes with newness- great. But sometimes someone just playing from their heart is rare enough to look "new". Let me tell you, Albert Ayler's power was not in how new his music was. ----Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Haino and culture
by Tosh 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

MorMovies made an interesting commentary on the interesting aspects of culture changing - which is probably why the 21st Century will be interesting. But still, I sense sadness (maybe because of my age) of things changing and how popular culture does change things - and not always for the good. On one level it's fascinating to see culture quickly moving from one aspect to another - but then it's heartbreaking to see on one trip a few Starbucks in Tokyo - and then a year later I go to the main cross walk in Shibuya and see a huge Starbucks in front of my face. Plus Starbucks every few blocks from the other one. All within a year. What I am worried about is the disappearence of the small unique (ultra-cool) Japanese coffee shops - being replaced by Starbucks. Yuck! I also had the chance to actually read the interview with Haino yesterday - and by no means was he making a racist statement. I am not that familar with his music, but for sure he has the coolest hairstyle than anyone right now! -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

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ikue
by Acousticlv＠aol.com 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/7/02 9:40:57 PM, s~Z at keithsz(a)concentric.net writes: << Secondly, with regard to Ikue, chose her as an example of someone whose musicality -- because of her instrument -- has not been given full credit, >> hi folks. ive usually been disappointed with ikue, live and on disc. i also have seen her skill growing stronger over the last decade. one problem i find is that her palette is extremely narrow, although lately she's been able to produce both more variety and also more interplay. i guess i've always found her to be mechanical, with, of course, exceptions. i'm told she was originally a percussionist, before she took up sampling.percussion. any recorded nonelectrics from her? could someone recommend some of her recorded work and "talk me through it," so i can understand what it is that you hear. thanks steve koenig. n.p. aube bar 2.1-a'

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Re: Some of the overdue DVD reissues are not so overdue
by Bill Ashline 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

>From: "Benito Vergara" <bvergara(a)sfsu.edu> >ObZorn: I notice that Criterion has also released "Tokyo Drifter," which >I've never seen, and which Zorn has, I believe, praised to high heavens. >Does anyone here second his recommendations? > Yes, absolutely. Great piece of sixties kitsch where the main character wears this appallingly cheesy white suit. Strongly recommended. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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DVD Reissues and stuff
by Tosh 08 Jul '02

08 Jul '02

Tokyo Drifter is great as well as Branded to Kill. I think both has interviews with its director Seijun Suzuki. One (Branded to Kill) has film posters collected by Zorn. I don't read the many DVD magazines that are now out - but the U.K.'s UNCUT has a pretty decent review/commentary on extras on DVD's. Oh, and I also suggest 'Black Tight Killers.' Fans of the two Suzuki films I think would admire this Japanese film gem. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

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Re: Things I just don't get
by mr.dave＠attbi.com 07 Jul '02

07 Jul '02

Gaak! Don't mention 'Desert Island Discs' on the Zorn List - please! My e-mail box (not to mention my wallet) can't handle THAT again ... Dave NP: Bill Frisell, 17Oct90 Middle East, Cambridge MA > I don't find myself listening to his piano work much, but his > all-vocal "Chinampas" would be one of my desert island discs. >

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Re: Things I just don't get
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 07 Jul '02

07 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/3/02 4:11:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Samerivertwice(a)aol.com writes: > 1) Steely Dan > 2) Why some jazzers feel the compulsion to set their terrible terrible > poems to music. > 3) Powerbook music > > Enlighten me, > Tom > And I agree with everything Patrice wrote (especially the gorgeousness of KIND OF BLUE), except his appraisal of William Parker. Parker is a monster player and a not half bad composer. Check out "Painter's Spring" and "O'Neal's Porch" for evidence. My 2 cents, Tom ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music."

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Bowie/Merman
by Oppenheim, Phil 07 Jul '02

07 Jul '02

First of all, y'all say that like it's a *bad* thing. Did you happen to check out the excellent piece in the NYT about Ms Merman and what an amazing interpreter/ performer she was? Secondly: aside for their mutual predilection for chiffon, I don't really see the comparison. Surely Bowie's more like Eddie Cantor (theatricality, multiple character persona) or Jolson (tendency towards the maudlin) or Bing (idiosyncratic balladeer -- and duet-mate!) or even Carmen Miranda. That said, I *do* like the idea of The Thin White Duke taking on The Fat Old Broad ... -----Original Message----- From: Mark Saleski [mailto:marks@foliage.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:23 AM To: zorn Subject: Re: Worst Bowie >I think they meant Dave Bowie, stadium rock's answer to Ethel Merman > >skip h dang, i wish i'd made that analogy! -- Mark Saleski - marks(a)foliage.com <mailto:marks@foliage.com> | http://www.foliage.com/~marks <http://www.foliage.com/~marks> "Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together" - Anais Nin

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Worst Bowie
by Tosh 07 Jul '02

07 Jul '02

'Don't Let me Down' is the worst Bowie. But 'Outside' is great. I like the textures and melodies on that album. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

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Re: Worst Bowie
by TagYrIt＠aol.com 07 Jul '02

07 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/1/2002 1:03:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, berniecc(a)hotmail.com writes: > Subj:Re: Worst record by someone I normally love > Date:7/1/2002 1:03:10 PM Eastern Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:berniecc@hotmail.com">berniecc(a)hotmail.com</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:zorn-list@lists.xmission.com">zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > David Bowie: Never Let Me Down > > Bernie. > True, but even worse than Outside? Dale.

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