October 2002 - zorn-list - mailman.xmission.com

Fw: Jan Garbarek
by Nenad Georgievski 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

> Garbarek is great. I highly recommend Visible World, The Legend of Seven > Dreams (this is something like folk -ambient jazz) and Witchi Tai To and > Places (classic jazz). > > Best > Nenad

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Re: Beefheart and Zappa
by Paul Escamilla 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

> I gather that you are a Zappa fan, and I apologize for such a blunt > dismissal. I have repeatedly attempted to lend an interested ear to his > recordings on the recommendations of friends or even strangers, but I can > never seem to get what the big deal is about. I like the 'Eric Dolphy > Memorial Barbecue', though... Me too. I love that Eric Dolphy tune. And some of the stuff off "Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar" is smokin'. But, for me, the lyrics are what ruin most of Zappa for me. Too much sophomoric humor (i.e. potty humor) and attacking of easy targets. I almost got beaten up by two Zappa-heads in a bar last Friday for saying as much. I fully agree that Zappa was a musical powerhouse, but Beefheart beats him hands down as a poet, a crafter of language. He's also a better painter.

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zappa never would have eaten a beefheart
by Matthew Garrington 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

I don't understand any of those Zappa over Beefheart issues. It's like apples and oranges. Sure they collaborated, but damn, Beefheart never sounded anything like Joe's Garage or the Yellow Shark. And Beefheart definitely has the art-rock thing cornered comparatively to Zappa. Lick my decals off baby! Certainly my favorite Capt' and the magic band album. My favorite Zappa/Beefheart moment has to be Zappa announcing "Beefheart on soprano sax and madness" from Muffin Man. "Girl you thought he was a man . . ... " _____________________________________________________________"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin____________________________________________________________ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site

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re:zorn live?
by Corbin Booth 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

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Re: drummers and Q? about NYC drum coll or MI
by Fastian＠aol.com 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

<< > FROM NORWAY . THE FRODE GJERSTAD TRIO > > Frode Gjerstad . . . . . . . saxophone(s) .clarinet > Øyvind Storesund . . . . double bass > Paal Nilssen - Love . . . . drum kit . percussion (reviews and website at bottom of mail) I saw this trio in my home town Katowice, Poland a few months ago and I agree, Nilssen-Love was amazing. Check out his fantastic CD of solo drumming "Sticks And Stones". Really great and original. >> I didn't catch the origin of this thread but they didn't come thru San Francisco this year even though I think they played Portland. They were supposed to play last year but cancelled due to 9/11. School Days and Atomic have come thru though and Love was magnificent both times. Atomic was definitely one of the best concerts of the year and the cd definitely kicks butt. Every composition is moving and original with plenty of room for great playing. For some reason, the Love solo cd is bit of a disappointment to me. It wasn't really engaging for me. A few other cds Love appears on that haven't been mentioned are "The Thing" a Gustafsson Trio w/ Haker Flaten as well. Probably the most straight ahead thing that Gustafsson has done, playing mainly Don Cherry tunes. There's some kind words from Eagle Eye inside about the band. Also the Sten Sandell(piano) Trio w/ Berthling on bass on the cd "Standing Wave" on Sofa. Probably one of the more "jazzy" efforts you'll get from Sandell plus no vocals. Love really propels things along and this is worth many repeat listenings. Lastly, Love appears on Christer Bothen Acoustic Ensemble's "7 Pieces" on LJ. I was expecting something more groove oriented given Bothen's past but these are pretty quirky but brilliant compositions where things change constantly and abruptly yet make perfect sense. Very heavily composed, it gives everyone a chance to shine. This is a good week for drummer lovers in the Bay area. Chris Cutler has been here about a week but still has a concert or 2 left, tonight's the 2nd night of 3 for Bobby Previte's Bump, and Tom Rainey is here for 2 nights with Mark Helias Trio with Tony Malaby. Not Bad. Cheers, John Threadgould

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CAptain B
by gebrennan＠att.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

AMEN!!!! Jerry B <<<Do not listen to this man. Do not stay away from the remastered versions of SAFE AS MILK and the MIRROR MAN sessions. Do not hesitate to buy CLEAR SPOT/SPOTLIGHT KID and ICE CREAM FOR CROW. If you do, you will miss some fabulous songs. You do not want to live never hearing the likes of Electricity, Sure 'Nuff and Yes I Do, Zig Zag Wanderer, Kandy Korn, The Host The Ghost The Most Holy-O, Ink Mathematics, I'm Gonna Booglarize You Baby, Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles, Sun Zoom Spark, Big Eyed Beans From Venus, and more.

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(non Zorn) Yoshimi vs Flaming Lips
by kevin.by 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

i just read this off Flaming Lips.com: "Yoshimi P-we is a marvelously kind and beautiful woman who plays with the psyche-noise-experimental group the "Boredoms" and is the leader of her own band "OOIOO." She is a musician of extraordinary talent and uniqueness. Yoshimi P-we and the Flaming Lips became fast friends while both were playing on the Lollapallooza tour in 1994." i recently picked up the album and was astouned that the W. Coyne & Co. managed to take a step even further following "the Soft Bulletin"!

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RE: Yma Sumac "Fuego Del Ande"
by Kasra George Ahmadi 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

I bought an album in Berkley entitled EXTABAY. Beautiful stuff I thought. And another note, I heard from some folks that her real name was actually Amu Camus but that the record company just pitched her some Andean Forest Princess. Either way, some seriously delicious music. kga -----Original Message----- From: Fritz Feger [mailto:mail@fritzfeger.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:12 AM To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: NP: Yma Sumac "Fuego Del Ande" is "Fuege Del Ande" one of a couple of Yma Sumac records, or is it THE record, the first and original and pre-music biz, as I seem to remember? Best, Fritz

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re:zorn live?
by SonataPathetique＠aol.com 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

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RE: o captain my captain
by Crowmeat Bob 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

>What!?! Explain yourself Just that the latter term of the analogy, while showing great facility for technical/aesthetic production methods and never being short of ideas, doesn't quite have the charm or, more specifically, the revolutionary intensity of the former term (give or take an occasional aberration). I gather that you are a Zappa fan, and I apologize for such a blunt dismissal. I have repeatedly attempted to lend an interested ear to his recordings on the recommendations of friends or even strangers, but I can never seem to get what the big deal is about. I like the 'Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue', though, and most of 'Weasels Ripped my Flesh', especially the cover. --bob np: Christian Marclay/Otomo Yoshihide -- Moving Parts >From: "Zachary Steiner" <zsteiner(a)butler.edu> >To: "'Crowmeat Bob'" <crowmeat(a)hotmail.com>, ><zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: RE: o captain my captain >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:16:28 -0500 > > >>Now-a-days it's more likely I'll listen to Beefheart over Zappa. > > > goes without saying. It's like the difference between Duke Ellington >and >Glenn Miller. Or Stanley Kubrick and Stephen Spielberg. > >What!?! Explain yourself > > >Zach _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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